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Rypro 525 05-08-07 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue588
Guess I should get rid of my Criterion...

if the colors aren't over saturated on the new mgm release, then get the new one, but wait till reviews, since the old criterion transfer was approoved by Verhoven.

Johnny Zhivago 05-08-07 01:52 PM

Good news... Looks like I can add Robocop to the collection again...

DRG 05-08-07 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
And for once, an MGM Photoshop job that looks good? A re-done logo that isn't complete and utter shite?

My thoughts exactly. I can deal with a company not using the original artwork if they at least put some effort into it like they have here. This actually looks like it could be a poster I'd see up at the theaters and not just a bunch of disembodied heads floating below a title done in the first font the DVD 'artist' stumbles across.

Ravenous 05-08-07 04:40 PM

Wow thats nice! I was never a Robo fan. Growing up, the movie always freaked me out and depressed the shit out of me. But I found the Criterion a few years back for $10 and began to really like the flick. I'll get this as soon as I see some reviews to see if its the unrated cut, the sound, transfer, etc.

I love the cover and the fact you dont see his face. Its a great pose.

sb5 05-08-07 05:37 PM

I only have the bare bones, R rated MGM version, so I'll probably double-dip on this.

StephenX 05-08-07 05:40 PM

I almost bought the trilogy just to get a decent copy of 'Robocop.' With this addition, I'll wait. Amazing cover, extras, and hopefully good transfer.

daniel18 05-08-07 06:02 PM

They shouldn't have wasted disc space with the rated version and put more extras instead. I'll stick with the Criterion.

daniel18 05-08-07 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Duh Vuh Duh
Shit, right after I finally break down and get the trilogy, even though I got a great deal on it. But it's still sealed so may have to unload it.

I've heard 3 is horrible, how is 2, is it worth keeping the trilogy?


Not at all, at least to me. Terrible movie compared to the original.

Zen Peckinpah 05-08-07 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Duh Vuh Duh
Shit, right after I finally break down and get the trilogy, even though I got a great deal on it. But it's still sealed so may have to unload it.

I've heard 3 is horrible, how is 2, is it worth keeping the trilogy?

Well, considering RoboCop is a near-masterpiece, RoboCop 2 is a step-down. It reeks of "This movie MUST come out this summer by any means necessary" syndrome, and whereas Verhoeven had us laugh at the violence as well as be disgusted, the situations here are just far too bombastic to deal with. The only thing going for it is Peter Weller's return and more stop-motion. Also directed by Irvin "Empire Strikes Back" Kershner, but alas was his last movie to date.

And UNLESS you are curious to expose yourself to the "hype" and complete the RoboCop saga, RoboCop 3 is a disaster of epic proportions. Yeah, it was good when I was 6 or 7, but factor in the fact that Fred Dekker, director of Night of the Creeps and The Monster Squad (both classics) was the co-writer and director and you won't believe how bad it is. OCP is going bankrupt without any evil corporate bigwig, RoboCop ain't Peter Weller, a techie kid who can deactivate an ED-209 even though her family is in poverty, robot ninjas being manufactured by OCP, flying RoboCop...it takes what was once a satirical bloodbath intended for adults and boils it down to the consistency of a bad Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles episode. One of the worst movies EVER IMO.

Palpadious 05-08-07 08:35 PM

I never double dip. but this is certainly making me consider it. I'd probably keep my Criterion version for its director approved aspect ratio. I'm sure this version won't retain it.

RagingBull80 05-08-07 09:16 PM

What is the extended cut?

I mean, is it going to be the same as the Criterion cut or a new version all together?

tylergfoster 05-08-07 09:52 PM

I'm sure it's the same cut from the MGM discs. I can't imagine Fox would go to the trouble to create a new version.

UAIOE 05-08-07 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by Zen Peckinpah
And UNLESS you are curious to expose yourself to the "hype" and complete the RoboCop saga, RoboCop 3 is a disaster of epic proportions. Yeah, it was good when I was 6 or 7, but factor in the fact that Fred Dekker, director of Night of the Creeps and The Monster Squad (both classics) was the co-writer and director and you won't believe how bad it is. OCP is going bankrupt without any evil corporate bigwig, RoboCop ain't Peter Weller, a techie kid who can deactivate an ED-209 even though her family is in poverty, robot ninjas being manufactured by OCP, flying RoboCop...it takes what was once a satirical bloodbath intended for adults and boils it down to the consistency of a bad Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles episode. One of the worst movies EVER IMO.

"Robocop 3" is the single biggest reason I never bothered with the trilogy. I was like 14 when I saw this and even then I was like "why did they tone down all the violence?"

I hate "Robocop 3" more than "Alien 3", "Alien Resurrection" and "Godzilla (1998)" combined.

tylergfoster 05-09-07 12:22 AM

OT, but...awesome.

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The second one gets a little choppier in the editing but it's still sweet.

Egon's Ghost 05-09-07 09:03 AM

That was cheese

Fok 05-09-07 09:44 AM

Don't think I'll be picking this one up, I also own both the criterion and trilogy

Giles 05-09-07 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Fok
Don't think I'll be picking this one up, I also own both the criterion and trilogy


same here, I don't see a reason to triple dip on this... there doesn't seem to be anything exclusive to this version (right?)

LorenzoL 05-09-07 11:07 AM

I don't own any of the previous versions so I'll be picking this up.

Mondo Kane 05-09-07 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by droidguy1119
OT, but...awesome.

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The second one gets a little choppier in the editing but it's still sweet.

Assist:
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It helps that I haven't seen Part 2 in 17 years and have never seen part 3. Thus, all this footage of Robocop is brand new to me!

GreenVulture 05-09-07 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
same here, I don't see a reason to triple dip on this... there doesn't seem to be anything exclusive to this version (right?)

From the press release:


Disc One:

o Theatrical Cut
o Audio commentary by Director Paul Verhoven, Writer Ed Neumeier and Executive Producer Jon Davison
o Flesh And Steel: The Making Of Robocop Featurette
o Shooting Robocop 1987 Featurette
o Making Robocop 1987 Featurette
o The Boardroom: Storyboard With Commentary By Animator Phil Tippet Featurette
o Deleted Scenes
- OCP Press Conference
- Nun In The Street Interview
- Topless Pizza
- Final Media Break
o Photo Gallery
- Design (13)
- Special Effects (16)
- Director Paul Verhoven (22)
- Behind The Scenes (20)
- Cast (11)
- ED 209 (18)
o Theatrical Trailer
o TV Spot

Disc Two:

Extended Cut
o All New Featurettes:
- Villains Of Old Detroit
- Special Effects: Then And Now
- Robocop: Creating A Legend

o Paul Verhoven Easter Egg
o Trailers and TV Spots
o Teaser 1 & 2
o Theatrical Trailers
I know the bolded parts are exclusive. Don't know about the rest.

tylergfoster 05-09-07 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
It helps that I haven't seen Part 2 in 17 years and have never seen part 3. Thus, all this footage of Robocop is brand new to me!

They also made a series of Canadian movies. I don't remember what they're called but I remember seeing them in the video store and expecting them to be really bad. Some of the footage may be from those, I don't know RoboCop well enough to identify every single shot. :)

Nick Martin 05-09-07 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by droidguy1119
They also made a series of Canadian movies. I don't remember what they're called but I remember seeing them in the video store and expecting them to be really bad.

It was a miniseries called "RoboCop: Prime Directives", and it was the BIGGEST PILE of dogshit to ever be associated with RoboCop. Just the worst...They weren't B-movies, they were worse than Z-movies. Just thinking of them brings back some very bad memories.

CertifiedTHX 05-09-07 08:20 PM

Makes me wish I was a bigger fan of the franchise. Dig the first and second films, but not in any big way. Haven't seen the third. Funny feeling to be excited about something you're not really excited about. But, of course, the steelbook plays a large role in that.

Main question I have, though: Is Paul Verhoeven's preferred aspect ratio of 1.66:1 going to be used, or will it be the same 1.85:1 transfer from the 3-disc RoboCop Trilogy set? Probably the latter, but I always wonder if a director's preferences are honored in cases like this.

--THX

sb5 05-09-07 08:30 PM

There haven't been any reports about the ratio yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's exactly the same transfer (with the same 1.85:1 ratio) as the MGM Trilogy version for the unrated cut, and the barebones MGM version for the R rated cut.

Giles 05-10-07 09:03 AM

the third movie is where Robocop flies - right?

Zen Peckinpah 05-10-07 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Giles
the third movie is where Robocop flies - right?

Unfortunately, yes.

Don't forget the robot ninjas.

Giles 05-10-07 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Zen Peckinpah
Unfortunately, yes.

Don't forget the robot ninjas.


well don't ruin the film for me... I haven't seen it yet

;)

crazyrabbits 05-10-07 01:37 PM


It was a miniseries called "RoboCop: Prime Directives", and it was the BIGGEST PILE of dogshit to ever be associated with RoboCop. Just the worst...They weren't B-movies, they were worse than Z-movies. Just thinking of them brings back some very bad memories.
I'll say this much: there are worse ways to spend a Saturday night. It certainly wasn't close to the best of what Robocop had to offer, but it had some nice moments.

UAIOE 05-10-07 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
the third movie is where Robocop flies - right?

It's pretty bad when even robot ninjas couldn't make this movie worthwhile.

tylergfoster 05-10-07 02:16 PM

The only good thing about RoboCop 3 was the "I'll buy that for a dollar" guy still being included.

basaro 05-10-07 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
well don't ruin the film for me... I haven't seen it yet

;)

And with that info you still want to see it? ;)

I have never seen 3 and now I have absolutely no interest. I held off on getting the boxset because of the AR issue and because I didn't want either 2 or 3.
I also think this will be the same 1.85:1 transfer that is in the current boxset. Not sure if I will get this yet, but it's good to know. Thanks for posting OP.

Abe. 05-10-07 05:15 PM

Robocop 3 had a fantastic story, with a ton of potential for the script. The execution was all wrong.

Amazon.com has a listing for the Blu-Ray, I wonder when that'll come out?

captainjoe 05-10-07 06:07 PM

What they should do is completely remaster both cuts from the ground up with new color corrections and dirt removal. At least present the "Director's Cut" in 1.66:1. And for Christ's sake please do not pump up the contrast. I just rewatched it yesterday and the skies are completely whited-out in the finale and there are so many details lost.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare3/robocop.htm

Capture 3 really shows how bad it is, many of the wires and poles are completely clipped out.

UAIOE 05-10-07 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by Abe.
Robocop 3 had a fantastic story, with a ton of potential for the script. The execution was all wrong.

My vote for understatement of the century.

JZ1276 05-11-07 01:43 AM

I just realized the guy in the first Robocop that gets the toxic waste all over him is Graem from 24

Rogue588 05-11-07 03:12 AM

Close.

Emil is the guy that played Graem in 24.

:p

Josh Z 05-11-07 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by JZ1276
I just realized the guy in the first Robocop that gets the toxic waste all over him is Graem from 24


Originally Posted by Rogue588
Close.

Emil is the guy that played Graem in 24.

:p

It's the same guy. Emil got dumped in toxic waste and splattered by the car.

The actor's name is Paul McCrane. He was also on ER for a number of years.

Egon's Ghost 06-23-07 09:45 AM

Bump. This is up for pre-order on Amazon.com, I'm sure other sites as well:

Robocop 20th Anniv. Edition

16 bucks.

tacos 08-09-07 04:02 PM

How does Robocop stand up over all these years? Hell I was 11 or so when I seen it for the first time. I know I've never seen the extended cut. So, fuck it I might just buy this. If its not too chezzy that is.

islandclaws 08-09-07 05:08 PM

^Stand-up? How about it's (argueably) the greatest sci-fi/action film of all time? I know there are many others that could top that list, but Robocop stands the test of time as one of the best ever made. Every social issue it deals with is still relevant today, perhaps even moreso. It's never cheesy and the violence is still as impactful as it ever was. It's one of my favorite films of all time.


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