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Cinematic Titanic's feature is available as of midnight - just ordered my copy. It's "Brain of Blood" retitled "The Oozing Skull." The movie is only available on DVD for now (which is fine by me) but will probably be up for download to burn by Spring.

Everyone get over and order a copy now

Michael

Grabbed my wallet as soon as I saw the news, then found out they don't ship outside the US. So that's one less sale for them.

Meh, I would have bought it sight unseen if it had been available the way they had said all along things would be available (download). But having to buy it, wait through the holidays, and another 10 business days perhaps (according to the order site)... I'll pass for now.

I went ahead and bought it.

I prefer owning an actual DVD as opposed to just a download anyway.

The trailer didn't impress me much, but with the credentials of the talent involved, they deserve even a blind buy or two in my opinion.

I'm disappointed that if i spend the extra cash to buy the actual disc from them it doesn't come in a case with a cover and such. It sounds like it is shipped Netflix-style in an envelope. It just seems like if i pay the extra for physical media it out to be packaged so i can put it on my DVD rack.

If Titanic goes the route of Rifftrax with $3-4 downloads, I'm in. The Film Crew and those DVD purchases aren't worth the kind of cash for a "watch 'em once".

Yeah, $16 was a bit more than I wanted it to be, but I still have to buy this to support them. I'm ordering a copy. They are going through the same hassles of film rights as Rhino so no telling how long these will stay in print anyway.

Also, these riff projects whether it be MST3K, Film Crew, Rifftrax or CM are not watch em once for me. Over time I will watch this dozens of times so it is worth the investment.

BTW, I was surprised to see the silhouette used, but I like the style and the fact they are going over the top with props. Gives it a bit different feel from MST3K. I think Mike Nelson mentioned in an interview that they had trouble with the Film Crew due to Jim Mallon. Guess Joel had no such issues as co creator and was able to do his project very MST style including the silhouettes. Granted I am assuming the person he had trouble with was Mallon since he did not give the name. Maybe it was Joel.

Okay, watched my copy of The Oozing Skull tonight and was very, very impressed.

The quality was much higher than the Film Crew DVDs and the riffing was also much better.

Joel has really captured the feel of MST3K with the tone of the riffing and the use of the silhouettes. Instead of doing host segments like the Film Crew tried and failed badly at they stay with the movie the entire time with the silhouettes.

As the movie starts up there is a 10 second count down as the 5 of them come on screen to take their positions. Josh Weinstein, Joel and Mary Jo on the left top to bottom and Trace and Frank on the right top to bottom. They start out of the gate riffing the movie, but stop the film 4 times for quick bits sometimes using some visual jokes with the silhouettes. These stops are very quick and for the most part were pretty funny. I especially liked Josh's love theme for the movie bit. This is a much better idea overall than trying to do scripted bits outside of the theater. Without the bots those are just destined to fail.

I give Mike Nelson a ton of credit for finding ways to keep riffing alive. His Rifftrax's are very good and tackle high profile films and he has a very low cost way of riffing that will probably be more successful than Joel's obviously expensive project. However, from a purely artistic standpoint Joel has outdone him in every way. Joel has recaptured a big part of what made MST3K so brilliant and I hope they sell enough of these to keep the project going. This is a very polished production from start to finish and is the first thing I have watched that actually seems like a true successor to MST3K. It is also a very risky project with a very iffy distribution model.

I hope Cinematic Titanic catches on and I will buy every release. After watching the first one I no longer complain about the $16 cost. That is pretty much inline with what the Film Crew DVDs cost and is a much better product. I only wish Joel had made a deal with Rhino because I don't think his current distribution model will succeed. They do send it on a real DVD and not a DVD-R, but all you get is the disc in a mailer. I also don't think most fans will be happy with just a downloaded version for $13. Maybe it will get enough attention for them to make a deal later.

If you are a fan of MST3K I can't recommend The Oozing Skull highly enough.

Hrm, after that review i may have to jump on the Oozing Skull.

I do really wish it came in something other than an envelope. I think with a case and cover and the 16$ would seem like a great deal to me - but without them it makes me hesitate for some reason.

I agree. I actually don't care about the case. I have plenty of empty DVD cases. I would like a DVD cover. Even one I could print myself would be something.

BTW, I don't want to post any of the riffs and be a spoilar, but I will say that they spread them around pretty well among the 5 and do some pretty good group ones. That said, Josh and Frank were the standouts. They easily had the best riffs and bits in the movie.

Well scoping out the forum on Cinema Titanic i see this fan made one.

http://www.edwoodonline.com/pix/CT-TOS.jpg

Pretty decent looking and it is at least something.

wait a minute.
Joel is doing this again. how did i miss that.
that is great.

he created mst3k and was the funniest, to me.

i'll e checking this out.

Cool. That is nice for a fan made cover. I would hope that Joel and co would release official covers for download at some point, but this will work in the meantime.

This caused me to go read up on all the stuff that's going around in the MST3K world and man, does www.mst3k.com suck total shit or what?

The review here convinced me to watch the trailer for CT, which I wasn't really interested in, and now I am going to pick it up, maybe -- I might wait a bit and see if the download version actually gets up or not before dropping on the disc.

I'm glad they invented the RiffTrax player as well. I mean, personally, I watched The Matrix and had no trouble synching things up, although I admit I did end up fiddling with it throughout the movie to try to get it perfect, but in any case, I didn't find it the monumental hassle some seem to feel it is. Still, this is a great idea.

Yeah, I agree. Mallon apparently wanted to get in on the money Mike Nelson is making with Rifftrax.com, but doesn't have the talent Joel has to make a good competing product. Instead he used the MST3K characters that he owns the rights to and relaunched the site with some terrible animated bot cartoons and a new merchandise store. From all accounts the fans bashed the hell out of it in the MST3K forums and the relaunch is already dead.

This is the same Jim Mallon that drove away Joel Hodgson over his desire to make an MST3K movie. The movie bombed and while their efforts were focused on it they lost their deal with Comedy Central. Guy is a real genius.

darkside - Thanks for the review, I was waiting until people started getting their copies before I ordered mine. I make a lot of MST DVD covers when I'm bored, so I'm giving The Oozing Skull a shot, here's an early look at what I've got so far:


That's not the full size image, but you get the idea. It looks more like a cover for the movie than a cover for Cinematic Titanic's presentation of the movie, I've still got a look to change though. I need my DVD so I can get color screenshots for the back before I finish it.

^^^ Great cover!

It was great to see the old crew riffing again. It could probably benefit from an opening and/or closing monologue of some sort, even if it's just a minute or two and the mini-skits could use some work, but the rest of the jokes had me laughing. I'll be buying the next one once it's out-- hopefully sooner than later!

Dr. Phibes, please post the full version of that when it's done!

Well, the movie is still pretty awesome, and my introduction to MST3K, so I can't totally blame him, especially since the show did keep going. But the website is still horrible.

Cinematic Titanic needs to be added to DVDaf.com, I want to put it in my MST3K file.

Well, I ordered my copy last night. I'm excited to get it. I just wish that they didn't skimp on the packaging. I have a box full of DVDs that are in paper or cardboard sleeves, but this release shouldn't be lumped in with them.

Thanks for the reviews, btw.

Glad you like it, I'll be sure to post back once I finish it up. I'm kind of stumped as to what I should do next, but I'll figure something out.