Jesus! Rick Berman? I couldn't think of a worse choice.

I just don't understand the mixed signals. He says in the MTV interview,
"It's just the original versions, as they were," Lucas said. "We didn't do anything to it at all. But we're not sure how many people want that." and Lucasfilm is putting very little effort into the original versions yet the way they are promoting it to the retailers is "FINALLY, STAR WARS fans can experience the trilogy like NEVER before!!!" Technically, that's inaccurate. If you own the laserdiscs and the SE dvds, you already have had the experience. If the OOT had been anamorphic, then it would be correct.

and then the line, "THESE ARE THE DVDs FANS HAVE BEEN DEMANDING! HUGE SALES POTENTIAL!" when this is not the case.

Confusing, much?

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Non-anamorphic=no purchase for me as well.

I was a bit on the fence anyway as the SEs don't really bother me. They're just great popcorn flicks, a few new scenes, effects and greedo shooting don't lower it much for me. I love them either way.

Fine, you guys don't like Rick Berman? How 'bout Mike Scully?

Perhaps that should've been accompanied by "(OMG J/K!!! lol!)" I thought the joke was clear, even if people didn't get the obscure Bruce McCulloch semi-reference. All I meant was, at a certain point, Roddenberry ran out of ideas and/or got sick of people criticizing his "new" ideas and let other people take over.

Incidentally, I disagree with what you said previously, that *nobody* could tell anymore stories in the 'Star Wars' universe, but I do agree that Lucas himself is tapped on ideas. What I've seen of the 'Clone Wars' seemed pretty good, though that may just be compared to the prequel trilogy.

Enh. I must be the only one who wasn't fond of them. I liked season 1 pretty much. As long as it stuck to the basics I was ok with it. Season 2 got too weird for me.

But hey, at least they were anamorphic.

What I said is nobody could tell stories in the Star Wars universe that could hope to live up to the original trilogy.

Here is a pretty good mix of fact and speculation, as well as editorial (I apologize to everyone if this has already been posted - I don't think it has). This guy has been writing about Star Wars for a long long time..so his voice is worth something.

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/editor...ilogy_dvds.htm

good article. everything's always "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!!"

See, you can blame Marcia, not Lucas

I'm not sure T'bone knows the details of Marcia and George's divorce. Suffice it to say she porbably got half due to the community property laws in California. If Marcia does get a big paycheck when the originals are released, I can at least sympathize with Lucas on not doing anything that would result in her getting money. Because she screwed him incredibly bad, and ran out and left him with their baby.

But her getting a paycheck everytime the original trilogy is released sounds like rampant speculation.

And now Lucas is giving you the opportunity. What more should be said?
No, those are called fans.
The '04 versions were modified to fit smoothly with the prequels.

Maybe you're both missing the point here. The typical SW fan, yes, would buy everything branded "Star Wars". The Home Theater nut still living in the past refuses to buy the modified trilogy (and furthermore whines about there not being a DTS track)

SW fan = sale
HT nut = no sale

Lucas then decides to release the OT in it's original glory to please the fans. The HT nut is shocked and appalled by the 2.0 track and further thrown into a state of nausea when he learns of the non-anamorphic transfer. He of course refuses to buy it. The SW fan is also disappointed but not to the extreme length the HT nut was. He is curious however and given the "attractive pricing" he picks them up anyway for the sake of completion.

I am almost certain that at the end of the day, the SW nut will prefer to watch the '04 versions not only for their obvious AV qualities but for their fuller treatment of Star Wars mythos.

SW fan = sale
HT nut = no sale

See, mythos is what drives the Lucas empire. If you're not sucked into his galaxy of video games and action figures, your lack of a sale means nothing. The fan is hooked in and lost in his world of fantasy. The HT nut comes to the table with nothing and in the end leaves with nothing.

Sorry, newbie. I have a fucking Star Wars tattoo and I'm not buying this if it's non-anamorphic. It's a waste of money.

I would consider myself a Star Wars fan AND a HT nut. I've had non-anamorphic versions for over 10 years. I don't need this. It's a slap in the face, IMHO.

it really does feel like Lucas is trying to prove that fans don't want the original versions, and lends a helping hand in trying to get that point across by providing inferior quality. anamorphic versions will come eventually. this is just one more version being released to cash in on the demand.

This is my favorite response ever. I will forever cherish it.

I agree with this. If you already have the Laserdisk versions why even bother?You can basically pick up the exact same thing off ebay for half the price they're charging. I'm a pretty big star wars fan too, but now it seems like they are almost trying to make me not buy this. Packaging it with the 04 version? Fine. 2.0 Audio? That's fine too. Using the 93 mastered version and non animorphic? Why bother.

To use sports as an example: Let's say you're a big Cubs fan and then they finally win the world series. But, it's in a strike shortened year and all the players are scabs you've never heard of. Kind of diminishes the experience.

"I'd like this to look as if the transfer was made some time within this millennium."

I'm going to pretend, as you do, that there are absolutes. Those are 'Star Wars' zealots; 'Star Wars' fans have bought the six DVDs and, when these come out, will say "I don't understand what this is supposed to be." You're just defining yourself as "fan", unwilling to accept that the majority of people who like 'Star Wars' [and, thus, are "fans" of it] are more-or-less unaware of the raging controversy regarding the special editions.

Sorry, that's a fact.

I don't want to own the prequels either. I prefer to own movies I consider good, or at least worth watching for some reason. Sorry, that's just more of my CRAZY Home Theater Star Wars zealotry leaking out!

Now you're saying something completely different; I never denied being a movie* zealot, though the "Home Theater nut" is a joke that my 20" TV and I will laugh at. A lot. Because you're making wildly over-generalized comments which harm your argument severely.

[* = I had written "DVD", but I edited it when I realized that I have, in fact, bought movies which were full screen only because I loved the movie. Man, I sure am a sucky home theater zealot...]

Thus showing your total lack of understanding with regard to economics; given that the "SW nut" will buy *anything* with 'Star Wars' on it, Lucas needs to do nothing to cater to them. If, however, he catered to what you call the "Home Theater nut", he would stand to make more profits. The "SW nut" would buy it either way. "lack of a sale" = "lost profits". I guess you think that's nothing but, I assure you, most successful billionaire businessmen disagree.

Not true. He comes to the table with his money, begs George Lucas to offer something he will exchange the money for, and walks away with his money in his pocket.

Ever......as in...the last two months?

Sorry, your post was non-sensical, at best.

Not at all. Putting these out on dvd in bare bones non-anamorphic, 2.0 will cost them next to nothing to produce. Any sales they make will be all profit.

The HT nuts are only in it for 3 sales and then pull out. The SW fan is in it forever (or till he decides to move out of his parent's basement)
I assure you, my dick is quite larger than yours.

(Edited - because I reported the post to a mod..and I don't ever want to be on digitalfreaknyc's "back", for obvious reasons)

So a "SW nut" must love the 04 versions unconditionally? I'm a Star Wars fan, but of the original 3 films as they were originally released. I don't consider myself anything less of a fan. So I'm "living in the past"? Sweet Zombie Jesus, YOU are the zealot, here.

Ask ThatGuamGuy and Egon. Obviously they found it as ridiculous as I did.

You consistantly have a problem with me. Get off my back.

Feel free to whip it out whenever you like.

Just don't be surprised with what this legitimate Star Wars fan and HT nut does to it.

That's no joke. Didn't Van Gogh destroy a lot of his works because he wasn't quite "satisfied" with the outcome?

This guy is such a textbook case of the "tortured artist" that it borders on pathological. If he lops off an ear we'll know for sure.

Glad to see that Luca$ is still a money hungry whore. God do I hate this man.... and the fanatics.

And it would cost a few thousand dollars to make an anamorphic transfer, which would translate easily to ten times as much, due to the sales which will be lost due to a non-anamorphic transfer. You're talking in circles.

Right, so again I point out, the "SW fan" will buy anything regardless, their money is already there, but a portion of that money could be used to invest in a transfer which *more* "HT nuts" will buy, which translates quite quickly into profits. Even ignoring your bizarre definition of "fans" vs. "zealots", you're not making much sense here.

Ooooooh, I get it. You're a troll. A troll who's insecure about his penis size. Jeez, I'm sorry, dude. Penis envy is a horrible thing in a man.

For whatever it's worth, I'm pretty sure I've had a few run-ins with digitalfreak ... I actually think I may remember not liking him very much. But since when is calling a new poster "newbie" bashing? From reading this thread, you seem to be kinda riding him a little, though there may be context here I'm not seeing.

[EDIT: It should be pointed out, I'd swear he was a "new member" until his latest post; at what point does that switch over? When DF made that post, the forum itself was basically calling him a newbie.]

However, now that the newbie has revealed himself to be a straight-up troll, I think we can all agree to just ignore him, and he'll drag his gargantuan genitalia elsewhere.

pun intended?