A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET: Infinifilm Edition -9/26/06
09-30-06, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Abe.
Wait, how can you like Wes Craven's New Nightmare, and not like the original? To me, New Nightmare works a lot better if you know the original really well.
--THX
10-01-06, 10:47 PM
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Someone turns Elm Street into a porno ripoff. No graphic material.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziuhXWQ0zQw
Well we're at it, here's another one. Debt collector calls Scream's Drew Barrymore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZoEfitd-s&NR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziuhXWQ0zQw
Well we're at it, here's another one. Debt collector calls Scream's Drew Barrymore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZoEfitd-s&NR
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10-02-06, 08:44 PM
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Postman delivered mine today. It had a barcode sticker over the cut out on the back of the slipcase. Was very tricky to get off cleanly without damaging the slipcase. Not impressed.
10-03-06, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel God
Postman delivered mine today. It had a barcode sticker over the cut out on the back of the slipcase. Was very tricky to get off cleanly without damaging the slipcase. Not impressed.
--THX
10-05-06, 09:52 AM
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I watched the 49 minute Making-Of yesterday, and while not all of the outtakes and deleted/alternate takes from the laserdisc/2-VHS set are there, there is some footage that is exclusive to this new DVD. I haven't taken out my laserdisc to compare directly, but I know that I had never seen Heather Lagencamp in the tub talking to the guy in the water beneath her with the Freddy glove (and she seemed rather annoyed at him between her legs), or shots of Freddy in the upside-down room (where Tina got killed) staring menacingly into the camera. Seems as if there was a ton of material available that we haven't seen. I know most studios don't wanna release full reels of footage shot after "cut" was called, but it's a shame that we can't see it all.
I also noticed that the alternate endings this time around were in color and had the audio corrected from before, not to mention they were in 5.1 and anamorphic. Even the trailer was really cleaned up and showed the Freddy walking through the jail bars scene without any scratches or artifacts.
I also noticed that the alternate endings this time around were in color and had the audio corrected from before, not to mention they were in 5.1 and anamorphic. Even the trailer was really cleaned up and showed the Freddy walking through the jail bars scene without any scratches or artifacts.
10-05-06, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dullboy
I watched the 49 minute Making-Of yesterday, and while not all of the outtakes and deleted/alternate takes from the laserdisc/2-VHS set are there, there is some footage that is exclusive to this new DVD. I haven't taken out my laserdisc to compare directly, but I know that I had never seen Heather Lagencamp in the tub talking to the guy in the water beneath her with the Freddy glove (and she seemed rather annoyed at him between her legs), or shots of Freddy in the upside-down room (where Tina got killed) staring menacingly into the camera. Seems as if there was a ton of material available that we haven't seen. I know most studios don't wanna release full reels of footage shot after "cut" was called, but it's a shame that we can't see it all.
I also noticed that the alternate endings this time around were in color and had the audio corrected from before, not to mention they were in 5.1 and anamorphic. Even the trailer was really cleaned up and showed the Freddy walking through the jail bars scene without any scratches or artifacts.
I also noticed that the alternate endings this time around were in color and had the audio corrected from before, not to mention they were in 5.1 and anamorphic. Even the trailer was really cleaned up and showed the Freddy walking through the jail bars scene without any scratches or artifacts.
10-05-06, 10:18 AM
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Okay, I really think New Line dropped the ball on this one.
For Freddy having supported New Line all this time, they're just really being shoddy with it.
I understand why 4 and 5 were not 'uncut' on the previous box set (like they were on VHS), but they could have included the extended scenes supplemental.
But, back to this release, here's what I've been disappointed with so far:
There are over a dozen deleted scenes on the LD, but only about 2 of them are on the DVD and I wanna say that 1 of those is actually an alternate take of one of the LD scenes. There's the Tina worm scene and they included only one line from the extended scene with Nancy and her Mom in the basement.
Now, I know that a lot of those scenes are really crappy looking, being from VHS workprints, but there were several scenes that involved the whole subplot of the parents realizing and fearing that it really was Freddy, that the LD said were labeled "tv footage" and they looked better than the print of the actual film at that time. So, why couldn't they have been included?
Plus, the fact that 99.9% of the documentaries on the 2nd disc were really just the same things as the 'infinifilm' pieces was just terribly disappointing. That 2nd disc could have been used to house other extras, or different extras could have been included on the first disc. Most of these extras popped up at weird or awkward times anyway.
Seeing as how they don't seem to have any intention of putting out Freddy's Nightmares anyway, why won't they at least include the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" episode as an extra on something. That was the episode that was the origin of Freddy and showed the parents hunting him down and killing him. From what I remember, it was the only episode of the series with Freddy actually in the episode instead of just hosting it.
Also, the fact track was a big disappointment. Aside from the fact that I couldn't get it to play by itself without the huge blue infinifilm crap with it, it was so sparce and dull.
When they brought up stuff like "Bob Shaye has cameos in 4 Nightmare films", why not follow it up by saying which ones and what he played?
There were lots of things like that. Almost like they did a first draft of the track and never bothered to update, enhance or correct any of it. They just figured it was good enough.
And it may have just been my player, but did anybody else have it where the last trivia bit that played just stayed on the screen until another one came up?
That was really annoying.
Granted, I would have still bought it for the new commentary (which I haven't listened to yet), and the pleasant surprise of the upgraded picture and sound on the alternate endings (plus 1 more than the previous 2 that had been released before).
But, it really seems like they need to get some of the hardcore Freddy fans to work with them on these DVDs instead of the people that they have doing them currently.
Just very disappointing.
For Freddy having supported New Line all this time, they're just really being shoddy with it.
I understand why 4 and 5 were not 'uncut' on the previous box set (like they were on VHS), but they could have included the extended scenes supplemental.
But, back to this release, here's what I've been disappointed with so far:
There are over a dozen deleted scenes on the LD, but only about 2 of them are on the DVD and I wanna say that 1 of those is actually an alternate take of one of the LD scenes. There's the Tina worm scene and they included only one line from the extended scene with Nancy and her Mom in the basement.
Now, I know that a lot of those scenes are really crappy looking, being from VHS workprints, but there were several scenes that involved the whole subplot of the parents realizing and fearing that it really was Freddy, that the LD said were labeled "tv footage" and they looked better than the print of the actual film at that time. So, why couldn't they have been included?
Plus, the fact that 99.9% of the documentaries on the 2nd disc were really just the same things as the 'infinifilm' pieces was just terribly disappointing. That 2nd disc could have been used to house other extras, or different extras could have been included on the first disc. Most of these extras popped up at weird or awkward times anyway.
Seeing as how they don't seem to have any intention of putting out Freddy's Nightmares anyway, why won't they at least include the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" episode as an extra on something. That was the episode that was the origin of Freddy and showed the parents hunting him down and killing him. From what I remember, it was the only episode of the series with Freddy actually in the episode instead of just hosting it.
Also, the fact track was a big disappointment. Aside from the fact that I couldn't get it to play by itself without the huge blue infinifilm crap with it, it was so sparce and dull.
When they brought up stuff like "Bob Shaye has cameos in 4 Nightmare films", why not follow it up by saying which ones and what he played?
There were lots of things like that. Almost like they did a first draft of the track and never bothered to update, enhance or correct any of it. They just figured it was good enough.
And it may have just been my player, but did anybody else have it where the last trivia bit that played just stayed on the screen until another one came up?
That was really annoying.
Granted, I would have still bought it for the new commentary (which I haven't listened to yet), and the pleasant surprise of the upgraded picture and sound on the alternate endings (plus 1 more than the previous 2 that had been released before).
But, it really seems like they need to get some of the hardcore Freddy fans to work with them on these DVDs instead of the people that they have doing them currently.
Just very disappointing.
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10-05-06, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wahlers
Okay, I really think New Line dropped the ball on this one.
For Freddy having supported New Line all this time, they're just really being shoddy with it.
I understand why 4 and 5 were not 'uncut' on the previous box set (like they were on VHS), but they could have included the extended scenes supplemental.
But, back to this release, here's what I've been disappointed with so far:
There are over a dozen deleted scenes on the LD, but only about 2 of them are on the DVD and I wanna say that 1 of those is actually an alternate take of one of the LD scenes. There's the Tina worm scene and they included only one line from the extended scene with Nancy and her Mom in the basement.
Now, I know that a lot of those scenes are really crappy looking, being from VHS workprints, but there were several scenes that involved the whole subplot of the parents realizing and fearing that it really was Freddy, that the LD said were labeled "tv footage" and they looked better than the print of the actual film at that time. So, why couldn't they have been included?
Plus, the fact that 99.9% of the documentaries on the 2nd disc were really just the same things as the 'infinifilm' pieces was just terribly disappointing. That 2nd disc could have been used to house other extras, or different extras could have been included on the first disc. Most of these extras popped up at weird or awkward times anyway.
Seeing as how they don't seem to have any intention of putting out Freddy's Nightmares anyway, why won't they at least include the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" episode as an extra on something. That was the episode that was the origin of Freddy and showed the parents hunting him down and killing him. From what I remember, it was the only episode of the serious with Freddy actually in the episode instead of just hosting it.
Also, the fact track was a big disappointment. Aside from the fact that I couldn't get it to play by itself with the huge blue infinifilm crap with it, it was so spare and dull.
When they brought up stuff like "Bob Shaye has cameos in 4 Nightmare films", why not follow it up by saying which ones and what he played?
There were lots of things like that. Almost like they did a first draft of the track and never bothered to update, enhance or correct any of it. They just figured it was good enough.
And it may have just been my player, but did anybody else have it where the last trivia bit that played just stayed on the screen until another one came up.
That was really annoying.
Granted, I would have still bought it for the new commentary (which I haven't listened to yet), and the pleasant surprise of the upgrade picture and sound on the alternate endings (plus 1 more than the previous 2 that had been released before).
But, it really seems like they need to get some of the hardcore Freddy fans to work with them on these DVDs instead of the people that they have doing them currently.
Just very disappointing.
For Freddy having supported New Line all this time, they're just really being shoddy with it.
I understand why 4 and 5 were not 'uncut' on the previous box set (like they were on VHS), but they could have included the extended scenes supplemental.
But, back to this release, here's what I've been disappointed with so far:
There are over a dozen deleted scenes on the LD, but only about 2 of them are on the DVD and I wanna say that 1 of those is actually an alternate take of one of the LD scenes. There's the Tina worm scene and they included only one line from the extended scene with Nancy and her Mom in the basement.
Now, I know that a lot of those scenes are really crappy looking, being from VHS workprints, but there were several scenes that involved the whole subplot of the parents realizing and fearing that it really was Freddy, that the LD said were labeled "tv footage" and they looked better than the print of the actual film at that time. So, why couldn't they have been included?
Plus, the fact that 99.9% of the documentaries on the 2nd disc were really just the same things as the 'infinifilm' pieces was just terribly disappointing. That 2nd disc could have been used to house other extras, or different extras could have been included on the first disc. Most of these extras popped up at weird or awkward times anyway.
Seeing as how they don't seem to have any intention of putting out Freddy's Nightmares anyway, why won't they at least include the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" episode as an extra on something. That was the episode that was the origin of Freddy and showed the parents hunting him down and killing him. From what I remember, it was the only episode of the serious with Freddy actually in the episode instead of just hosting it.
Also, the fact track was a big disappointment. Aside from the fact that I couldn't get it to play by itself with the huge blue infinifilm crap with it, it was so spare and dull.
When they brought up stuff like "Bob Shaye has cameos in 4 Nightmare films", why not follow it up by saying which ones and what he played?
There were lots of things like that. Almost like they did a first draft of the track and never bothered to update, enhance or correct any of it. They just figured it was good enough.
And it may have just been my player, but did anybody else have it where the last trivia bit that played just stayed on the screen until another one came up.
That was really annoying.
Granted, I would have still bought it for the new commentary (which I haven't listened to yet), and the pleasant surprise of the upgrade picture and sound on the alternate endings (plus 1 more than the previous 2 that had been released before).
But, it really seems like they need to get some of the hardcore Freddy fans to work with them on these DVDs instead of the people that they have doing them currently.
Just very disappointing.
Well spoken wahlers.
I haven't gotten to this DVD yet but I'll keep your comments in mind when I do.
10-06-06, 08:07 PM
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Okay so I have never seen the original nightmare on elm street, but I loved Freddy vs. Jason. I am wondering if this would be a good blind buy.
10-06-06, 10:53 PM
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Apples and Oranges, my friend. It's still a great movie, just not nearly as slick as Freddy Vs. Jason.
If you like the original, give Wes Craven's New Nightmare a spin too.
If you like the original, give Wes Craven's New Nightmare a spin too.
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Seeing as how they don't seem to have any intention of putting out Freddy's Nightmares anyway, why won't they at least include the "No More Mr. Nice Guy" episode as an extra on something. That was the episode that was the origin of Freddy and showed the parents hunting him down and killing him. From what I remember, it was the only episode of the serious with Freddy actually in the episode instead of just hosting it.
8 episodes centered on Freddy and had him as part of the story.
Only 6 episodes of that series are worth a shit: Freddy's Tricks & Treats, The End Of The World, Sister's Keeper, Safe Sex, Photo Finish and It's My Party And You'll DIe If I Want You To.
10-06-06, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Abe.
Apples and Oranges, my friend. It's still a great movie, just not nearly as slick as Freddy Vs. Jason.
10-06-06, 11:09 PM
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I wouldn't say that Freddy Vs. Jason was shitty, it's just pure slick filmmaking, for a completely different audience, and fans. I enjoyed it for what it is, nothing more.
10-06-06, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Abe.
I wouldn't say that Freddy Vs. Jason was shitty, it's just pure slick filmmaking, for a completely different audience, and fans. I enjoyed it for what it is, nothing more.
10-07-06, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Abe.
I wouldn't say that Freddy Vs. Jason was shitty, it's just pure slick filmmaking, for a completely different audience, and fans. I enjoyed it for what it is, nothing more.
NoES actually tries and succeeds at being a scary movie. I remember watching the trailer about a year ago and being creeped out by it - and I've seen the movie so many times.
FvJ I throw in for a laugh. Like 'em both, but there intent is completely different.
10-07-06, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by wahlers
I understand why 4 and 5 were not 'uncut' on the previous box set (like they were on VHS), but they could have included the extended scenes supplemental.
10-07-06, 07:01 PM
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So how do I access the uncut Tina death bed scene that was supposed to be on this release?
I turned on the Infinifilm track and played through the scene, but none of the pop ups are for the uncut version. I also looked around the Beyond the Movie and All Access Pass sections on both discs and can't find it anywhere.
Is it really there?
I turned on the Infinifilm track and played through the scene, but none of the pop ups are for the uncut version. I also looked around the Beyond the Movie and All Access Pass sections on both discs and can't find it anywhere.
Is it really there?
10-09-06, 08:32 AM
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4 and 5 were the theatrical versions on DVD because the "uncut" versions were edited together on video for the homevideo releases, so they would have had to try and cut together new versions from the negatives, and I can understand them not wanting to do that.
10-12-06, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by S-10
Warner Bros owns Freddy's Nightmares, not New Line.
Did anyone else get this set and have both discs be disc one? Happened to me.
