Dumbo: Special Edition -- 06/13/06
03-13-06 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette
There are a lot of interesting tagents in this thread to be sure. That being said, let me add another, which is more in-line with the initial topic of this thread.
Judging by the specs listed on Davis DVD, this release appears to be another 'kiddie-ized' version of one of Disney animation relases (along the lines of Disney's most recent releases of The Emperor's New Groove and Tarzan). Notice that absence of the following features from the 60th Anniversary Edition:
Audio Commentary
Exclusive Look At Dumbo II
Dumbo Art Gallery - Rare and Never-Before-Seen Concept Art
Original Walt Disney TV Introduction
Sound Design: Creating The Voice Of "Casey Jr."
Publicity Materials
DVD-ROM Weblinks
Ignoring the obligatory plug for Dumbo II and the DVD-ROM Weblinks, there is a lot missing from this newest release if the specs listed on Davis DVD are the complete ones for the Big Top Edition, I know, don't get me started on that name.
I think I will be sticking with the original release in this case unless there is a major improvement in the transfer and/or the original soundtrack is included, which it doesn't look like it is.
Judging by the specs listed on Davis DVD, this release appears to be another 'kiddie-ized' version of one of Disney animation relases (along the lines of Disney's most recent releases of The Emperor's New Groove and Tarzan). Notice that absence of the following features from the 60th Anniversary Edition:
Audio Commentary
Exclusive Look At Dumbo II
Dumbo Art Gallery - Rare and Never-Before-Seen Concept Art
Original Walt Disney TV Introduction
Sound Design: Creating The Voice Of "Casey Jr."
Publicity Materials
DVD-ROM Weblinks
Ignoring the obligatory plug for Dumbo II and the DVD-ROM Weblinks, there is a lot missing from this newest release if the specs listed on Davis DVD are the complete ones for the Big Top Edition, I know, don't get me started on that name.
I think I will be sticking with the original release in this case unless there is a major improvement in the transfer and/or the original soundtrack is included, which it doesn't look like it is.
03-13-06 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by joliom
Now Disney has started with the super-cool edition names too? Why do they all think this a great marketing gimmick? Are there actually people who like these stupid names? What's next, Criterion rolling out: "The Seven Samurai: Slice 'Em, Dice 'Em Edition" or "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: Totally Baked Edition?" Stop the madness!
SNOW WHITE: Poison Apple Edition
PINOCCHIO: The Woody Edition
LADY & THE TRAMP: The Spayed Edition
SLEEPING BEAUTY: The Coma Edition
THE RESCUERS: The Rodent Edition
well you get my drift...
03-14-06 | 06:25 AM
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Hey LBPound:
When you've been around for six years doing a DVD news website, you might have one or two readers that send you information and --gasp!-- stock holder PDFs.
I didn't steal anyone's news story. In fact, I posted the first specs for the disc four days ago and I have the only hi-res art for the set from any of the news sites.
If you don't like me or my site, that's fine. Just don't bash me for stuff that's not true. Between my school and work schedules, I work too fucking hard to bring DVD news on a (semi) daily basis.
I also seem to recall you, or someone from ultimatedisney, emailing me and practically begging to find out how I had access to Disney DVD info -- to which I politely told you that I had multiple sources in the video retail industry. Just because I wouldn't share those avenues of information isn't any reason to bash me now.
Goddammit, what a fucking bummer of a way to start the day!
When you've been around for six years doing a DVD news website, you might have one or two readers that send you information and --gasp!-- stock holder PDFs.
I didn't steal anyone's news story. In fact, I posted the first specs for the disc four days ago and I have the only hi-res art for the set from any of the news sites.
If you don't like me or my site, that's fine. Just don't bash me for stuff that's not true. Between my school and work schedules, I work too fucking hard to bring DVD news on a (semi) daily basis.
I also seem to recall you, or someone from ultimatedisney, emailing me and practically begging to find out how I had access to Disney DVD info -- to which I politely told you that I had multiple sources in the video retail industry. Just because I wouldn't share those avenues of information isn't any reason to bash me now.
Goddammit, what a fucking bummer of a way to start the day!
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03-14-06 | 08:22 AM
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Since disney has not put out an official press release, no one knows what is new and what is missing. However If Dumbo 2 truly was scrapped, then chances are that is long gone.
True, official specs have not been released yet, however I think I see a pattern forming here, and it isn't one I am particularly found of either.
03-14-06 | 12:01 PM
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^agreed. For the most part, Disney has been consistent in putting out great dvd's of their feature films. I was major discouraged with the Tarzan/Emporer situation last year, as they already had plenty of material that simply got left behind. Stack that with the treasures video quality, and the simple bad job with the muppet releases...Disney has given me plenty of grief lately.
I still say that their Platinum line is one of the best in the dvd business. Some great extras in their. I do plan on keeping my old Dumbo...the video quality will help me decided if I should own two copies.
And Patrick, show some cheer. I love your website (and have always championed it on this board for as long as I remember) You bring great news on a daily basis, and don't deserve the grief.
I still say that their Platinum line is one of the best in the dvd business. Some great extras in their. I do plan on keeping my old Dumbo...the video quality will help me decided if I should own two copies.
And Patrick, show some cheer. I love your website (and have always championed it on this board for as long as I remember) You bring great news on a daily basis, and don't deserve the grief.
03-15-06 | 12:08 PM
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Thank you. I feel better now.
LBPound: I have full disc specs and hi-res artwork for EIGHT BELOW. Are you you're going to accuse me of theft when I post news on that in April?
LBPound: I have full disc specs and hi-res artwork for EIGHT BELOW. Are you you're going to accuse me of theft when I post news on that in April?
03-18-06 | 01:02 PM
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Hey Patrick, don't listen to this jackass criticism. You are doing a great job running your site and keeping fans like us informed on what's coming in the industry. Keep up the great work and be sure to know that most of us here support you.
03-20-06 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by joliom
What's next, Criterion rolling out: "The Seven Samurai: Slice 'Em, Dice 'Em Edition" or "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: Totally Baked Edition?" Stop the madness!
03-20-06 | 08:13 AM
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BTW, ultimatedisney has released the official specs for this DVD.
The complete press release can be found on here:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/dumbo-...ssrelease.html
Based on this, I will definitely not be buying this release unless there are some major improvements to the presentation. However, based on the Disney's recent re-issues of Tarzan, The Emperor's New Groove, and the Muppet movies, I'm not holding my breath.
Disney has issued press releases for June's major DVD releases. The Dumbo: Big Top Edition doesn't sound so big; it will lose the audio commentary, two trailers, Michael Crawford music video, and Reluctant Dragon excerpt from the recently-discontinued 60th Anniversary Edition DVD, though its new digital transfer is said to "provide a pristine visual experience for a new generation of fans."
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/dumbo-...ssrelease.html
Based on this, I will definitely not be buying this release unless there are some major improvements to the presentation. However, based on the Disney's recent re-issues of Tarzan, The Emperor's New Groove, and the Muppet movies, I'm not holding my breath.
03-20-06 | 05:21 PM
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I was about to sell my Dumbo 60th Anniversary Edition on Ebay until I read that a new digital transfer may be the only advantage of the upcoming release, and a new transfer is too vague. I'll have to wait until after it's released and there is a review (ultimatedisney will probably be the first) to make a decision.
Speaking of this weird trend, I noticed Lady and the Tramp II is also being re-released, and the specs for the disc seemed about the same as the last one except maybe they added a game or two. This makes it even harder to know if a new release offers enough to be worthwhile, and when you have to wait until after release date to get specs/reviews to make your decision, then the resale value on the old one plummets.
Fox is coming out with yet another slew of 2-DVD re-releases of previous 2-DVD releases like Butch Cassidy and Patton and the 1-DVD release of Tora Tora Tora. From the limited specs I couldn't tell if any of these 3 offered anything new and significantly better... just a handful of featurettes perhaps.
Speaking of this weird trend, I noticed Lady and the Tramp II is also being re-released, and the specs for the disc seemed about the same as the last one except maybe they added a game or two. This makes it even harder to know if a new release offers enough to be worthwhile, and when you have to wait until after release date to get specs/reviews to make your decision, then the resale value on the old one plummets.
Fox is coming out with yet another slew of 2-DVD re-releases of previous 2-DVD releases like Butch Cassidy and Patton and the 1-DVD release of Tora Tora Tora. From the limited specs I couldn't tell if any of these 3 offered anything new and significantly better... just a handful of featurettes perhaps.
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03-20-06 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cameron
Butch and Sundance, and Tora Tora Tora never have had 2 discers before. Tora has never even had a anamorphic transfer....
but thats for another thread.
but thats for another thread.
I guess there's a thread on each individual Fox title, so I'll go read those threads.
03-20-06 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardW
Big Top Edition? Great, now Disney animation is jumping on the stupid special edition naming.
05-31-06 | 09:55 AM
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I've been waiting for the first review before deciding to make the upgrade.
http://www.dvdtown.com/review/dumbob...on/18595/3705/
Another:
http://www.dvdmg.com/dumbobigtopedition.shtml
http://www.dvdtown.com/review/dumbob...on/18595/3705/
Another:
http://www.dvdmg.com/dumbobigtopedition.shtml
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05-31-06 | 01:55 PM
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I hate to break it to everyone who read the review, but the "Celebrating Dumbo" featurette was on the original 60th Anniversary disc as well. It is NOT a 'new' addition, as the reviewer would have you believe.
So there are no new extras--not for adults, anyway--on this Big Top Edition. Unless you have kids, I would hang on to the original disc if you still own it. I plan to.
So there are no new extras--not for adults, anyway--on this Big Top Edition. Unless you have kids, I would hang on to the original disc if you still own it. I plan to.
05-31-06 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeP
Unless you have kids, I would hang on to the original disc if you still own it. I plan to.
06-05-06 | 07:12 AM
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The big review is in: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/dumbo-bigtopedition.html
I already own the 60th anniversary edition. What's the general consensus on upgrading? I mean the picture quality is better in most aspects. The disc loses some special features. What does everyone think?
I already own the 60th anniversary edition. What's the general consensus on upgrading? I mean the picture quality is better in most aspects. The disc loses some special features. What does everyone think?
06-05-06 | 12:48 PM
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think the old version looks better? The colors are way more vibrant. Plus there is some significant cropping on the top part of the frame on the Big Top Edition.