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Cameron 03-13-06 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Arnette
There are a lot of interesting tagents in this thread to be sure. That being said, let me add another, which is more in-line with the initial topic of this thread.

Judging by the specs listed on Davis DVD, this release appears to be another 'kiddie-ized' version of one of Disney animation relases (along the lines of Disney's most recent releases of The Emperor's New Groove and Tarzan). Notice that absence of the following features from the 60th Anniversary Edition:

Audio Commentary
Exclusive Look At Dumbo II
Dumbo Art Gallery - Rare and Never-Before-Seen Concept Art
Original Walt Disney TV Introduction
Sound Design: Creating The Voice Of "Casey Jr."
Publicity Materials
DVD-ROM Weblinks

Ignoring the obligatory plug for Dumbo II and the DVD-ROM Weblinks, there is a lot missing from this newest release if the specs listed on Davis DVD are the complete ones for the Big Top Edition, I know, don't get me started on that name. :(

I think I will be sticking with the original release in this case unless there is a major improvement in the transfer and/or the original soundtrack is included, which it doesn't look like it is.

Since disney has not put out an official press release, no one knows what is new and what is missing. However If Dumbo 2 truly was scrapped, then chances are that is long gone.

Will1110 03-13-06 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by joliom
Now Disney has started with the super-cool edition names too? Why do they all think this a great marketing gimmick? Are there actually people who like these stupid names? What's next, Criterion rolling out: "The Seven Samurai: Slice 'Em, Dice 'Em Edition" or "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: Totally Baked Edition?" Stop the madness!

Apparently the marketing geniuses who name these things think that Joe 6-Pack is more apt to pick up a movie with these obnoxious names since they really can't market it as "New Fresher Tasting Dumbo Edition", or "Cleaner Smelling Dumbo Edition". Just another example of marketers systematically dumbing down America. God forbid the Disney marketeers figure out these editions:

SNOW WHITE: Poison Apple Edition
PINOCCHIO: The Woody Edition
LADY & THE TRAMP: The Spayed Edition
SLEEPING BEAUTY: The Coma Edition
THE RESCUERS: The Rodent Edition

well you get my drift...

The Monkees 03-13-06 11:49 PM

Well, I'll say this much, I'm glad I didn't get rid of my 60th Anniversary DVD, because this one sounds like it's going to suck!

Patrick Mirza 03-14-06 06:25 AM

Hey LBPound:

When you've been around for six years doing a DVD news website, you might have one or two readers that send you information and --gasp!-- stock holder PDFs.

I didn't steal anyone's news story. In fact, I posted the first specs for the disc four days ago and I have the only hi-res art for the set from any of the news sites.

http://www.davisdvd.com/images/covers_big/dumbo.jpg

If you don't like me or my site, that's fine. Just don't bash me for stuff that's not true. Between my school and work schedules, I work too fucking hard to bring DVD news on a (semi) daily basis.

I also seem to recall you, or someone from ultimatedisney, emailing me and practically begging to find out how I had access to Disney DVD info -- to which I politely told you that I had multiple sources in the video retail industry. Just because I wouldn't share those avenues of information isn't any reason to bash me now.

Goddammit, what a fucking bummer of a way to start the day!

Paul Arnette 03-14-06 08:22 AM


Since disney has not put out an official press release, no one knows what is new and what is missing. However If Dumbo 2 truly was scrapped, then chances are that is long gone.
Cameron,

True, official specs have not been released yet, however I think I see a pattern forming here, and it isn't one I am particularly found of either.

Cameron 03-14-06 12:01 PM

^agreed. For the most part, Disney has been consistent in putting out great dvd's of their feature films. I was major discouraged with the Tarzan/Emporer situation last year, as they already had plenty of material that simply got left behind. Stack that with the treasures video quality, and the simple bad job with the muppet releases...Disney has given me plenty of grief lately.

I still say that their Platinum line is one of the best in the dvd business. Some great extras in their. I do plan on keeping my old Dumbo...the video quality will help me decided if I should own two copies.

And Patrick, show some cheer. I love your website (and have always championed it on this board for as long as I remember) You bring great news on a daily basis, and don't deserve the grief.

Will1110 03-14-06 09:14 PM

Hey Pat I visit your website every day - you do a great job. Don't let one a**hole spoil it for the rest of us -- screw them!

Keep up the good work.

Patrick Mirza 03-15-06 12:08 PM

Thank you. I feel better now.

LBPound: I have full disc specs and hi-res artwork for EIGHT BELOW. Are you you're going to accuse me of theft when I post news on that in April?

dx23 03-18-06 01:02 PM

Hey Patrick, don't listen to this jackass criticism. You are doing a great job running your site and keeping fans like us informed on what's coming in the industry. Keep up the great work and be sure to know that most of us here support you.

Al_Tahoe 03-20-06 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by joliom
What's next, Criterion rolling out: "The Seven Samurai: Slice 'Em, Dice 'Em Edition" or "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: Totally Baked Edition?" Stop the madness!

How about... "The Graduate: MILF Edition"

Paul Arnette 03-20-06 08:13 AM

BTW, ultimatedisney has released the official specs for this DVD.


Disney has issued press releases for June's major DVD releases. The Dumbo: Big Top Edition doesn't sound so big; it will lose the audio commentary, two trailers, Michael Crawford music video, and Reluctant Dragon excerpt from the recently-discontinued 60th Anniversary Edition DVD, though its new digital transfer is said to "provide a pristine visual experience for a new generation of fans."
The complete press release can be found on here:

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/dumbo-...ssrelease.html

Based on this, I will definitely not be buying this release unless there are some major improvements to the presentation. However, based on the Disney's recent re-issues of Tarzan, The Emperor's New Groove, and the Muppet movies, I'm not holding my breath.

Manzana 03-20-06 05:21 PM

I was about to sell my Dumbo 60th Anniversary Edition on Ebay until I read that a new digital transfer may be the only advantage of the upcoming release, and a new transfer is too vague. I'll have to wait until after it's released and there is a review (ultimatedisney will probably be the first) to make a decision.

Speaking of this weird trend, I noticed Lady and the Tramp II is also being re-released, and the specs for the disc seemed about the same as the last one except maybe they added a game or two. This makes it even harder to know if a new release offers enough to be worthwhile, and when you have to wait until after release date to get specs/reviews to make your decision, then the resale value on the old one plummets.

Fox is coming out with yet another slew of 2-DVD re-releases of previous 2-DVD releases like Butch Cassidy and Patton and the 1-DVD release of Tora Tora Tora. From the limited specs I couldn't tell if any of these 3 offered anything new and significantly better... just a handful of featurettes perhaps.

Cameron 03-20-06 05:24 PM

Butch and Sundance, and Tora Tora Tora never have had 2 discers before. Tora has never even had a anamorphic transfer....

but thats for another thread.

Manzana 03-20-06 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Cameron
Butch and Sundance, and Tora Tora Tora never have had 2 discers before. Tora has never even had a anamorphic transfer....
but thats for another thread.

You're right about Butch Cassidy... I just checked it and it's 1 DVD. I didn't say Tora Tora Tora had a 2 DVD edition before, but the 1 DVD SE was anamorphic. I just checked that on the back of the package (I haven't opened it yet).

I guess there's a thread on each individual Fox title, so I'll go read those threads.

Cameron 03-20-06 06:30 PM

my mistake...

RichardW 03-20-06 07:59 PM

Big Top Edition? Great, now Disney animation is jumping on the stupid special edition naming.

Cameron 03-20-06 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by RichardW
Big Top Edition? Great, now Disney animation is jumping on the stupid special edition naming.

Well, I've just seen about everything, since I've seen an elephant fly.

Space_Monkey 05-31-06 09:55 AM

I've been waiting for the first review before deciding to make the upgrade.

http://www.dvdtown.com/review/dumbob...on/18595/3705/

Another:
http://www.dvdmg.com/dumbobigtopedition.shtml

Novasonic 05-31-06 10:01 AM

It would be nice if they showed a side by side screenshot comparison of the 60th ae transfer and the new transfer.

bboisvert 05-31-06 10:08 AM

So all of the extras from the previous edition are included? And the picture quality is improved?

Sold.

GeorgeP 05-31-06 01:55 PM

I hate to break it to everyone who read the review, but the "Celebrating Dumbo" featurette was on the original 60th Anniversary disc as well. It is NOT a 'new' addition, as the reviewer would have you believe.

So there are no new extras--not for adults, anyway--on this Big Top Edition. Unless you have kids, I would hang on to the original disc if you still own it. I plan to.

bboisvert 05-31-06 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by GeorgeP
Unless you have kids, I would hang on to the original disc if you still own it. I plan to.

I'm less concerned about the "new" extras, and more interested in the improved picture quality. Assuming this is true (and, in fairness, the review is a bit vague)... that's more than enough reason to pick this up for me.

Novasonic 06-05-06 07:12 AM

The big review is in: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/dumbo-bigtopedition.html

I already own the 60th anniversary edition. What's the general consensus on upgrading? I mean the picture quality is better in most aspects. The disc loses some special features. What does everyone think?

FantasticVSDoom 06-05-06 11:08 AM

Well, if the pic quality is indeed improved, then I will be upgrading...Special features are nice, but lower on my list of priorities, but thats just me.

scrimshaw 06-05-06 12:48 PM

Is it just me, or does anyone else think the old version looks better? The colors are way more vibrant. Plus there is some significant cropping on the top part of the frame on the Big Top Edition.


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