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reverie 11-02-05 07:24 AM

Must not get so close to Christmas.. must not get so close to Christmas... The cover is pretty bad, but oh well. I don't really mind the menus myself. So happy it's coming out that I can watch for the third time Christmas day!!

And yes, I'll double or whatever dip if more come out down the line for this one!

Doughboy 11-02-05 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
The main reason was that no sound just tested terribly and pulled people out of the scenes. They see an expolsion and they expect a BOOM regardless if they are in space or not. So the slight change that the Ion cloud and Atmospher gives it that grounds to pull it off.

That's funny, cuz hearing sound in space in films not named Star Wars(or maybe Star Trek to a lesser extent) always pulls me out of the scene. I always liked how Firefly stayed true to the concept of space being a vacuum.

Mr. Cinema 11-02-05 07:33 AM

I passed on this in theaters. I'll give it a rent on dvd.

matome 11-02-05 08:04 AM

Yep. I'll give this a rental too.

GoVegan 11-02-05 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
I passed on this in theaters.

You're worse than Hitler.

Signed, the Browncoats

Mr. Cinema 11-02-05 08:46 AM

From the looks of its box office take, I wasn't the only one who passed...

RockStrongo 11-02-05 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by garmonbozia
that artwork for the dvd is fucking atrocious. I really hope it gets changed.

Im sure the creative sorts out there will come up with something better. ;)

As for DTS, I was hoping that it would have it also. Universal has been pretty good about it in the past. So, I dont mind their higher price points when it includes it. Oh well.

toddly6666 11-02-05 08:53 AM

My theory for the photoshoped Summer is that, in this dvd cover, she looks hot to someone that has never seen the show and the marketing people are trying to get more money from people just casually picking up this DVD on the Tuesday release day and thinking, "a sci-fi movie with a hot chick, hmmm...gonna need to buy that." And non-fans of the show and serious DVD consumers will buy it for that reason. If they had actually put the normal photo of Summer, less people will buy it, because the look of Summer is an acquired taste. She is not automatically hot when you look at her, in fact, she's a bit creepy looking. But when you watch the show, her looks grow on you and for other people she does look automatically hot, but in this photoshopped photo, no one can argue that she does not look hot...They could have put the more attractive actresses on the cover, Inari and the ship mechanic girl, but that would be more false advertising cuz they aren't the main stars...

We all know that the Firefly fans will buy the DVD no matter what. I just hope their little photoshopped marketing ploy works to make massive sales of this Serenity DVD to convince tv producers to get this TV show back on air...or at least more movie sequels...

RockStrongo 11-02-05 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by toddly6666
We all know that the Firefly fans will buy the DVD no matter what. I just hope their little photoshopped marketing ploy works to make massive sales of this Serenity DVD to convince tv producers to get this TV show back on air...or at least more movie sequels...

Depending on the sales of this DVD and due to the lackluster theater performance, I bet any sequels will be straight-to-dvd releases.

GoVegan 11-02-05 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
From the looks of its box office take, I wasn't the only one who passed...

That's true. Correction: 250 million people in the US are worse than Hitler. Still waiting on worldwide figures.

Have they already announced that there will be a second DVD release, or was that all fanboy speculation? $30 just seems like kind of a steep MSRP. I was hoping this one would be a bit cheaper.

GoVegan 11-02-05 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Depending on the sales of this DVD and due to the lackluster theater performance, I bet any sequels will be straight-to-dvd releases.

I think it would be funny if some super-rich nerd like Bill Gates or George Lucas would pay for the next two movies just because they wanted to see them.

reverie 11-02-05 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by GoVegan
I think it would be funny if some super-rich nerd like Bill Gates or George Lucas would pay for the next two movies just because they wanted to see them.

If you hate Serenity and it's fan-base so much, then why even bother posting in here..?

GoVegan 11-02-05 12:03 PM

Because I loved Serenity and Firefly and I was just teasing? I poke fun at everything, particularly things I like.

I was serious about the rich benefactor, though. I'm kind of surprised that something like that has never happened. If I was a billionaire, I'd toss some money at a Serenity sequel. (I figured it would definitely be worth it for Lucas, if only so he could study how to write loveable characters and good dialogue.

reverie 11-02-05 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by GoVegan
Because I loved Serenity and Firefly and I was just teasing? I poke fun at everything, particularly things I like.

I was serious about the rich benefactor, though. I'm kind of surprised that something like that has never happened. If I was a billionaire, I'd toss some money at a Serenity sequel. (I figured it would definitely be worth it for Lucas, if only so he could study how to write loveable characters and good dialogue.

Ah, I see. I apologize then.. missed humor, don't you love the internet? It just almost seemed mean spirited at first. Just ignore me. ;)

As for Lucas, I've only seen the one Star Wars film, so I guess I'll just have to take everyone's words on him (which haven't been very praising)!

GoVegan 11-02-05 12:27 PM

Yeah, I reread the posts I'd just made and I could see how they could seem meanspirited. Sorry - they weren't meant to be.

I've seen it twice in the theaters, have the Firefly DVDs and the comic books are sitting on my coffee table right now. I'm also still holding out hope for another visit to this little world, obviously to the point of desperation, which is where my odd fantasy of someone personally bankrolling the other movies came from.

Terrell 11-02-05 12:31 PM


I figured it would definitely be worth it for Lucas, if only so he could study how to write loveable characters and good dialogue.
Funny considering the main character in Serenity, Mal, is a complete ripoff of a loveable character that Lucas created when Whedon was just a tot.

As for Lucas spending his money, he didn't become a billionaire by spending his money on bad investments like a sequel to Serenity surely would be. ;)

uberjoe 11-02-05 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Terrell
Funny considering the main character in Serenity, Mal, is a complete ripoff of a loveable character that Lucas created when Whedon was just a tot.

As for Lucas spending his money, he didn't become a billionaire by spending his money on bad investments like a sequel to Serenity surely would be. ;)

I love Star Wars and Serenity, but I view Mal as what Han could be if Lucas knew (or cared) about fleshing out interesting characters. And though Mal is a ripoff of Han, Han is a "ripoff" of so many other pirates/cowboys/outlaws throughout literature and cinema.

Also, Mal is definitely willing to shoot first.

And I'll repeat for the benefit of anyone reading this who might want to call me a Lucas basher. I LOVE STAR WARS. I've seen the OT more times than I can count, seen the PT a bunch of times, read many of the novels, bought some of the figures. So to anyone who wants to dismiss my "Mal is better than Han because he is a deeper, fleshed-out character" as Lucas or Star Wars bashing: shut up.

RockStrongo 11-02-05 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by GoVegan
That's true. Correction: 250 million people in the US are worse than Hitler. Still waiting on worldwide figures.

Have they already announced that there will be a second DVD release, or was that all fanboy speculation? $30 just seems like kind of a steep MSRP. I was hoping this one would be a bit cheaper.

Yeah, for something so loved by its fanbase, a 2 disc set with DTS sound would have been nice.

GoVegan 11-02-05 02:47 PM

I'm not even going to buy this DVD because it doesn't have a DTS track.

(Ok, any movie industry executives in the house, don't read any further.)

Not really. I'll be buying the first release and the second if and when it comes along. A DTS track would be nice, as would a commentary track with the whole cast. Also, the River Tam Sessions and anything else which didn't make the first release.

Jackskeleton 11-02-05 03:17 PM

Oh jesus, we aren't going to do the typical Lucas vs Peter Jackson style debate here, are we? Because really.. it's not even ontopic.

JackS <hint, signing your post with your own name is silly since we already know who wrote it.. you don't have multiple people typing from your account, do you?>

steebo777 11-02-05 05:43 PM

I unintentionally missed this at the local cinema, and I really wanted to see it. I'll blind buy it for sure, and blind buy Firefly while I'm at it.

nightmaster 11-02-05 06:26 PM

I'm assuming the actual street price will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $20? We diehards will have to have it regardless, but people won't blind buy it for more than that pricing area and hey, we've had it repeatedly pointed out to us that it needs to recoup it's losses.

rdclark 11-02-05 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
Oh jesus, we aren't going to do the typical Lucas vs Peter Jackson style debate here, are we? Because really.. it's not even ontopic.

You're right. I deleted the post.



RichC

<I've been signing my posts the same way for 20 years. I'm not going to change now.>

darqleo 11-02-05 09:50 PM

I'm all over this, but hopefully I can find it cheaper than $20.

ChristianB 11-02-05 10:37 PM

Really enjoyed Serenity! Looking forward to the DVD...

Schuyler 11-02-05 11:05 PM

For those of you talking about a rich benefactor for Serenity sequels, it has been done before. Members of (I believe) Pink Floyd and the Beatles paid for Monty Python's Life of Brian to be made, because at that point it appeared that the pythons would never be able to make another movie and those musicians wanted to see one.

Rocketdog2000 11-02-05 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by GoVegan
$30 just seems like kind of a steep MSRP. I was hoping this one would be a bit cheaper.

Dude, $30 MSRP is just that - Manufactures "Suggested" Retail Price. It's pretty much the standard rate for just about every 'new release' DVD that comes out these days. You probably don't realize it, because most people are only concerned with what the final "sale price" they actual pay for it ends up being. My estimate will be between $15 to $20 - so don't worry too much about it.

valkyrie 11-03-05 02:02 AM

Wow...that's some bad coverart. What's wrong with the orignal poster, I thought it was great.

Hmmm....

diespine 11-03-05 03:50 AM

isn't universal known for double and tripple dipping, i think i will hold out since i have seen it in the theaters

reverie 11-03-05 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Schuyler
For those of you talking about a rich benefactor for Serenity sequels, it has been done before. Members of (I believe) Pink Floyd and the Beatles paid for Monty Python's Life of Brian to be made, because at that point it appeared that the pythons would never be able to make another movie and those musicians wanted to see one.

I never thought of that.. hehe. George Harrison was big in doing so for Python. Not that I hold any illusions of it happening (almost ever, not with just Serenity), but good point.

Jay G. 11-03-05 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Schuyler
For those of you talking about a rich benefactor for Serenity sequels, it has been done before. Members of (I believe) Pink Floyd and the Beatles paid for Monty Python's Life of Brian to be made, because at that point it appeared that the pythons would never be able to make another movie and those musicians wanted to see one.

Actually, members of Pink Floyd contributed to the funding of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as did members of Led Zepplin, although there were other funders as well. A lot of them contirubted funds in hopes of a loss they could write off for tax purposes, a plan that was thwarted when the film turned out to be successful.

George Harrison ended up funding Monty Python's Life of Brian after the original backers dropped out shortly before filming began. Eric Idle has often quipped that it's the most any one person has paid to see a movie. No other members of the Beatles were involved in the funding.

RockStrongo 11-03-05 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
Dude, $30 MSRP is just that - Manufactures "Suggested" Retail Price.

Yeah, and after looking, that looks like Universal's standard MSRP.

BUT, they also have been very good about including a DTS soundtrack, so the $1 or $2 more in price was worth it. I bet this release won't be less than $17.99 and possibly $19.99. We might see some sort of deal with the tv boxset at BB though.

jdumbjokes 11-03-05 09:38 AM

12/20/2005.....GEEK Holiday. I'm there as soon as the stores open.

RockStrongo 11-03-05 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by jdumbjokes
12/20/2005.....GEEK Holiday. I'm there as soon as the stores open.

Yeah, but personally, I think its too late to reach the majority of Christmas shoppers. Maybe the after Christmas crowd will be a big boost.

I feel like 12/13 might have been a better pick, but maybe distribution was an issue. Hopefully, they will advertise it well.

slop101 11-03-05 10:36 AM

Wouldn't this make a MUCH better cover?

It would actually stick out on the shelves and look interesting to people who have never heard of it.


http://www.moviepostersdirect.com/up...large/5209.jpg

Josh H 11-03-05 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
I bet this release won't be less than $17.99 and possibly $19.99.

Yeah, I'm guessing around the same. This isn't a big enough title that the big box stores are going to make it a $14.99 or so loss leader like with Star Wars and the other big releases.

It has a fairly large fanbase that will buy it for whatever price. Beyond that, they aren't going to lure others to the store to buy it (and hopefully other things) with a low price tag on this Title.

ivelostr2 11-03-05 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by jdumbjokes
12/20/2005.....GEEK Holiday. I'm there as soon as the stores open.

Nice, on my birthday, happy birthday to me...

JuryDuty 11-03-05 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
From the looks of its box office take, I wasn't the only one who passed...

That's true, but it hasn't lost a TON of money.

Domestic: $24,907,085
+ Overseas: $9,971,849
= Worldwide: $34,878,934

It cost $39 million to make + marketing (tbd). So I'm guessing it lost only about $15 million...which could be made up in DVD sales alone.


I hope it at least breaks even so there could be more. I'd never watched Firefly, but I LOVED this movie.


That said, that's some of the worst cover art I've seen in a while. The menus don't bother me except that they're all the same.

riley_dude 11-03-05 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by jdumbjokes
12/20/2005.....GEEK Holiday. I'm there as soon as the stores open.

Taking off work?

Too bad no commentary.

RockStrongo 11-03-05 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by riley_dude
Taking off work?

Too bad no commentary.

I thought there was a commentary with Whedon? :confused:


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