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Old 10-14-22, 08:02 PM
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Re: DVD Rot ?

I finally experienced what I believe is my first encounter with disc rot: Sam Peckinpah's THE GETAWAY (1972) from Warner Bros. I purchased it in January 2011.
Old 10-16-22, 08:49 PM
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Final Destination: Triple Feature (FD1, 2, & 3, FD1 & 2 are on a flipper disc, FD3 is on its own disc). Tried to watch FD1 this evening, movie froze at the 1:02 mark, would not FF, took awhile to get it to stop. Tried to skip the chapter, it froze up again at the menu in the process of skipping. Pissed me off, that was to be our horror movie for the evening.
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Flippers were a mistake from the beginning by studios looking to cut corners.
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Re: DVD Rot ?

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger View Post
Flippers were a mistake from the beginning by studios looking to cut corners.
From what I recall, some of the earliest flippers (like Seven and Amadeus, where the movies are actually split over two sides like a laserdisc) were made that way because it was the early days of the format and they hadn't worked all of the kinks out of RSDL/DVD-9 manufacturing yet. I can also sort of remember the early DVD-9 discs being prone to being defective.

Some flippers also had the widescreen on one side and the fullscreen on the other; I believe a double-sided DVD (DVD-10) has room for more data than a DVD-9, so that has the advantage of giving both versions a higher bitrate.

DVD-14 and DVD-18 flippers, though, were a mistake and have a high failure rate, both not working straight out of the box and rotting over time. But certain studios like Universal really seemed to like them. As far as cost-saving goes, I would think that it would cost as much or more to manufacture a single DVD-14/DVD-18 than it would two separate DVD-9s.

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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
DVD-14 and DVD-18 flippers, though, were a mistake and have a high failure rate, both not working straight out of the box and rotting over time. But certain studios like Universal really seemed to like them. As far as cost-saving goes, I would think that it would cost as much or more to manufacture a single DVD-14/DVD-18 than it would two separate DVD-9s.
Most likely the movie companies cut corners on quality control, to kept manufacturing costs lower.

Universal only really did multiple DVD18 flippers discs sets over mid-2004 to about mid-2006. They likely got a lot of returns of defective tv season dvd sets over 2005 and into 2006, and changed their minds about using DVD18 flippers.
Old 10-19-22, 09:41 PM
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Re: DVD Rot ?

I don't like flippers because they're too easy to scuff/scratch, I feel like I have to be extra cautious with them, and it was just a damned stupid idea to begin with.
Old 10-20-22, 03:18 PM
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Re: DVD Rot ?

My luck with double-sided DVDs has been pretty good although I don't buy TV box sets which seem to be problematic for a lot people. I still have lots of the original 1998 Columbia/Tri-Star widescreen/full screen single-layer flippers which, after 24 years, have not given me one bad disc so far.

The only rot trend I have noticed is:

HD-DVD from Warner Bros.
Warner Bros titles pressed between 2005-2007
MGM/20th Century Fox pressed around 2007 (Platoon 2-disc, Invasion of the Body Snatchers 2-disc, Species 2-disc are samples)
Old 10-20-22, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by orangerunner View Post
My luck with double-sided DVDs has been pretty good although I don't buy TV box sets which seem to be problematic for a lot people. I still have lots of the original 1998 Columbia/Tri-Star widescreen/full screen single-layer flippers which, after 24 years, have not given me one bad disc so far.
The Sony/Columbia/Tristar double-sided flipper discs from that time period, were typically DVD10 flippers where each side had a respective independent single-layer DVD5. DVD10 flippers were not really problematic.

The nasty problematic double-sided flipper discs were the DVD14 and DVD18 ones.

DVD14 = sideA is a two-layer DVD9, with sideB is a single-layer DVD5
(a total of "three" layers)


DVD18 = sideA is a two-layer DVD9, with sideB is a two-layer DVD9
(a total of "four" layers)
Old 11-04-22, 08:14 PM
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My Tales From the Crypt season 7 discs have the same issues as my season 6 ones.

Creepshow 3 has also died, at least there is a blu-ray I can upgrade to.
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Re: DVD Rot ?

Another WB TV series bites the dust: Life Goes On: Season 1

Discs 1, 2, 3 and 4 play perfect
Disc 5 freezes at the layer change
Disc 6 is completely dead, won't even load


Also, just watched all 7 series of Prime Suspect. All played fine except series 5. Both discs in that set froze at the layer change.

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Old 11-12-22, 10:13 PM
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Just discovered my Artisan DVD of Earth Girls Are Easy will not load. Played fine when I last watched it about a decade ago.

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