That never stopped him before (e.g., Count Dooku).

DJ

I did a search for it but saw nothing (maybe its too deep in?) so I thought Id ask. Im sure I had read that a new set of all 6 movies is coming out, but I cant recall if I read one that the original trilogy was going to be rereleased as well. Is there a reason for this? Are they going to fix the problem people complained about when it was originally released?

I have a chance to get the set for about $28, but Im up in the air if theres a new one coming out.

The only problem I remember people complaining about was the fact they weren't the "original" trilogy (aka it was the new SEs). What problems are you thinking of?

He probably means Lucas's little changes; Hayden Christensen replacing Sebastian Shaw at the end of Return of the Jedi for example.

Any 6 film box set this year will be nothing more than a rebadged set of the current 2-disc sets. It will probably be no earlier than 2007 for a new, super duper box set is released with glitches fixed, new transfers, new extras, etc.

Highly doubtful. That probably won't happen until at least 2007 for the presumed 30th Anniversary box set.

According to Lucas, the originals don't exist anymore

I think the original poster may be referring to the audio mix problems on A NEW HOPE. Hopefully if the originals are re-released, that glitch will be fixed...since I find it hard to believe that's the way Lucas "intended" the original to sound.

What sound/audio mix problem?

Sure they do,on my shelf and the only movies i still have on vhs

edit-oops i have one more:Blade Runner theatrical version

I think the musical score be reversed in the surround channels is the audio problem they are talking about. Here a thread where it was discussed when the box came out. I think someone has the Digital Bits article quoted on page two of the thread.

Link

Mr. nemein, the moderator, doesn't know about the audio mix problem??? I find that hard to believe.

Some say that the music is reversed in the rear channels. Quite frankly, I couldn't tell, as there was no way that I could check by holding my right rear next to my right front speaker to compare and vice versa.

Another problem people complained about was the way they mixed the music during one of the Death Star attack scenes when the X-Wings make that first plunge into the same horizontal plane with the Death Star surface. In previous versions, the music was loud and clearly audible. On the DVD, the music is VERY muted and practically inaudible.

Yup, thats exactley what Im talking about. Though when I saw them, I didnt notice anything major.

Truthfully, I dont mind any of the audio/visual changes becuase I NEVER saw the original ones when they were released. I finally saw SW for the first time 3 weeks ago.

However, I do hate the Han Solo/Greedo shooting thing. To me it looked like they had a draw old west style, but the way Hans head moves is so ugly and awkward; its the one thing I hate because its so noticable.

doesn't Luke also have the wrong color lightsaber in one of the scenes in Episode 4? Anyway, any word on whether they are also going to release a Prequel Trilogy boxset for those of us that already bought the OT set earlier this year? Or is it just going to be the gigantic 6 movie set?

They actually fixed that in the new DVD box set, and it is much improved over the '97 SE version. Still not as good as the original, but far better than it used to be.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424692

The latest from Lucas on the subject of DVDs from Time Out!

So Lucas doesn't even know. If there is a box set of all 6 films, it'll be the current sets with no changes. But he doesn't even seem sure on that.

Yeah there were like 100 threads on the subject when the DVDs were released, and they eventually got their own forums!

A forum which I pretty much ignored

Lucasfilm will probably become a publicly owned company within the next 3-10 years. At that point, the company will try to squeeze every possible penny out of its properties, including unadulterated versions of the original trilogy. So, yes, you'll eventually get an authorized version of the "Yub Nub" song at last.

What the heck is my thread doing here? I didnt ask for the unaltered Star Wars...

Just if the Current trilogy is worth getting or if theyre being rereleased.

Honestly, I don't know what all the fuss is about. I think they are better now.

In Lucas' mind, the originals doesn't exist anymore. He's already said that he isn't going to produce the originals to dvd. If you have the VHS editions hold them. I still have the original CBS/FOX VHS versions.

BUT HAN SHOT FIRST11!!!1!!!!211

Actually, I do think the changes kind of ruined the film (and not just Han) but I also don't really care and have moved on.

As adamant as I was in my refusal to buy a "modified" version of the original trilogy, I almost caved when the DVDs came out. But after hearing about these two audio issues, I decided whether they were modified or not, there is no way I was buying an inferior product passed off by Lucasfilm as "the way they intended it to sound." If they fix these problems, I might be tempted again. We just better not have to buy an entire six-episode box set to get corrected versions.

This was posted on the View Askewniverse message board:
"Lucas WILL release all the films in a special boxset which is set to released in November this year although rumours state it may be pushed back until May 2006. He will also release a Prequel boxset seperatly for those who already have the original trilogy boxset. The biggest news is however that many more changes HAVE been made to the films (mainly episodes IV-VI).

Below is the details for every disk being released in the boxset containing all the films.

THE PHANTOM MENACE:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:-
1. Some of Jar Jar Binks's lines have been removed and changed (My Comment: YES!)

2. Improved CGI backgrounds in certain scenes

3. Yoda's facial expressions are now mostly CGI (Body still puppet)

4. Darth Sidious digitally shadowed so his face is more hidden

Running Time Before: 133mins New Running Time: 131mins

Features:-
Slightly altered audio commentary
Deleted Scenes
Original Theatrical Trailers
TV Spots
Duel Of The Fates Music Video Featuring John Williams
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


ATTACK OF THE CLONES:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:-
1. The Jedi Raid on the Droid Control ship has been completed and added to the film (orginal scene filmed during episode II, additional footage shot during episode III)

2. The noises Yoda makes while fighting Dooko have been changed

3. One of C-3PO's lines has been changed and another one has been removed (My Comment: I hope it's "This is such a drag!")

4. Darth Sidious digitally shadowed so his face is more hidden

5. When Mace Windu shows up on Genosis, the shots showing him slowly walk up to Dooku and Jango is cut.

6. A short scene has been added where Anakin talks with Owen Lars (filmed during episode II)

Running Time Before: 142mins New Running Time: 145mins

Features:-
Slightly longer audio commentary (beacuse film will be slighly longer)
Deleted Scenes
Theatrical Teasers
Launch Trailer
TV Spots
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


REVENGE OF THE SITH:
The Additions:
1. A scene has been added where Yoda explains to Obi-Wan who erased Kamino from the Jedi files and that he is going to await contact on the planet Dagabah (filmed during episode III)

2. An extended battle on Kassakk which shows more battling & Yoda and Chewbacca fighting (filmed during episode III)

3. The Dooko Vs Anakin & Obi-Wan duel is slighly longer (filmed during episode III)

Running Time Before: 140mins New Running Time: 144mins

Features:-
Audio commentary
Deleted Scenes
Theatrical Trailers
TV Spots
John Williams Music Video
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production

EPISODES I-III BONUS DISK:
'From Dreams to Reality' (in depth making of the Prequel Trilogy including interviews with George Lucas, Rick Macallum, John Williams, Ewan Mc Gregor, Natalie Portman, Hayden Christian, Samuel L. Jackson, Frank Oz, Anthony Daniels & Christopher Lee) It runs at about 2hrs 40mins

Preview of 'Clone Wars 3D' television series

Blooper Reel (over 6 & a half mins)

'Extending the Saga' (an in-depth look at how the Lucas's orginal plot for Star Wars has changed)

'CGI'ing the Movies' (an in-depth look at how CGI has had a dramatic effect on the Prequel Trilogy)

'Saber Fights' (A documentary regarding all the lightsaber fights in the Prequel Trilogy. Presented by Nick Gillard)

R2-D2: Beneath the Dome

44 Web-Docs chronicling the making of the Prequel Trilogy: 12 from Episode I, 12 from Episode II and 20 from Episode III

Exclusive DVD-ROM Content


A NEW HOPE:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:-
1. The 'Imperial March' music has been added to Vader's first appearence

2. When Obi-Wan is talking to Luke about his father Anakin’s theme music can heard in the background and when Obi-Wan starts talking about Vader it changes to the Imperial March

3. Luke’s lightasber is blue throughout the film (My Comment: I'm glad about this one)

4. In several scenes where creatures are seen (e.g. The Cantina) some have been replaced by creatures seen in the prequels (My Comment: Too far)

5. The bleeding arm Obi-Wan slices off a creature in the Cantina does not have blood seen on it

6. Just before the Death Star destroys Alderaan there is a new scene added where different places on the planet can be seen along with Bail Organa. Shots include Bail being warned of the Death Star, the destrution on the planet which includes massive earthquakes, fire and peopele frantically trying to escape, you see Bail looking up into the blackend sky before the planet totally blows up (filmed during episode III) (My Comment: WAY, WAY, WAY too far!!)

7. The Death Star’s computers and screens have been improved

8. The opening text crawl's last paragraph has changed slightly. The line 'headed by Governor Tarkin and the evil sith lord Darth Vader' has been added into it.

9. Luke looks upset when Biggs dies and he sheds a tear (all CGI & PRT)

10. The duel between Vader & Obi-Wan is roughly a minute longer as there are more shots of the lightsabers clashing and them moving about (done using CGI, PRT & Stuntmen playing Vader & Obi-Wan). Music has been added to the scene as well (deatails unknown yet)

11. Just before the medal ceromony at the end, a scene has been added where Vader lands his damaged ship on Coruscant to meet Palpatine. They discuss the destruction of the Death Star, Obi-Wan, & finding the Rebels (filmed during Episode III) (My Comment:Too far, adding scenes like that just doesn't work)

12. Vader's mask eyes remain black throughout the film and his suit is shinier. (My Comment: Great! I've been complaining about that inconsistincy for years)

13. John Williams has rescored the music for some of the scenes (details unknown yet apart from changes 1 & 2 in this list)

14. a shot of a Rebel ship crashing into Death Star has been removed and replaced with better effects

15. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare & Logo have been updated

16. The end credits have been updated

Running Time Before: 125mins New Running Time: 130mins

Features:-
Alterd Audio Commentary (because of changes)
'A Completed Saga' (interview with George Lucas about the new changes to A New Hope, why he made them and comparing them to the previous versions)
Deleted Scenes
Theatrical Trailer
TV Spots
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:-
1. Some shots where Taun-taun’s can be seen have been changed so the Tuan-tuan’s have more movement and look more realistic

2. While the battle of Hoth is going on Imperial ships land near the Rebel base and a few more shots of ships flying and being destroyed have been added

3. Some of the views of Bespin (for example the background where Luke is holding on to the metal poles beneath a building) have been improved to look more realistic and ships can be seen flying around in the distance

4. A scene has been added where Yoda is teaching Luke how to fight with a lightasber made possible by Luke wearing a helmet while training (a stunt double plays him, Mark Hamill provides the voice although it is digitaly dubbed) (My Comment: Bad George, BAAAD George)

5. The Wampa scenes have been edited and restored into the film as well as new scenes added. We see a Wampa being brought into the Rebel base and locked into a room with other Wampa’s. Later C-3PO rips the sign off the door the Wampa’s are behind stating their there and when the Stormtroopers enter the base they open the door only to be attacked by the Wampa’s who then can be seen escaping as the Millennium Falcon blasts off out of Hoth

6. Lightsaber effects improved

7. The sound of Luke’s lightasber turning off as he exits the cave has been removed

8. Some of Yoda's facial expressions have been improved with CGI

9. John Williams has rescored the music for some of the scenes (details unknown yet)

10. There is a line added and one changed in the hologram scene (details unknown yet)

11. The landscape of Dagobah through the fog has been extended using CGI.

12. In the opening text crawl the words “The evil lord Darth Vader” has changed to “The evil Sith Lord Darth Vader”

13. The line Vader says 'Set your course for the Hoth system, I am sure Skywalker is with them' has been changed to 'Set your course for the Hoth system, the rebels have no escape this time' (My Comment: Good, fixes that continuity error)

14. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare & Logo have been updated

15. The end credits have been updated

Running Time Before: 129mins New Running Time: 134mins


Features:-
Alterd Audio Commentary (because of changes)
'A Completed Saga' (interview with George Lucas about the new changes to The Empire Strikes Back, why he made them and comparing them to the previous versions)
Theatrical Trailers
TV Spots
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


RETURN OF THE JEDI:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:
1. In the battle on Endor more Ewoks and Stormtroopers can be seen fighting and dieing and some parts of the battle have been edited out, members of Han’s team can be seen fighting as well (these scenes were shot during the production of Episode I, 7 years ago)

2. Vader uses the force to reclaim his lightasber after he throws it at Luke and the sound of him turning it on again has been removed

3. The lightasber duel between Luke and Vader is slightly longer (just more shots of clshing lightsabers)

4. The lightsaber effects have been improved

5. Vader has a flashback of Padme after his talk with Luke when he first meets him on Endor (filmed during Episode III) (My Comment: Ughhhh, the talk was one of my favourite scenes from the film, that will ruin it)

6. Kassykk & Utapau have been added to the end celebration scenes

7. Some of Yoda's facial expressions have been improved beacuse of CGI

8. Boba Fett's scream has been changed

9. Chewbacca's Tarzan call has been removed and replaced with a different sound

10. John Williams has rescored the music for some of the scenes (details unknown yet)

11. Some of the battle shots have been cut and replaced with longer improved ones

12. Some shots with Ewoks are now partially CG (mainly facial expressions)

13. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare & Logo have been updated

14. The end credits have been updated

Running Time Before: 135mins New Running Time: 138mins

Features:-
Alterd Audio Commentary (because of changes)
'A Completed Saga' (interview with George Lucas about the new changes to Return of the Jedi, why he made them and comparing them to the previous versions)
Theatrical Trailers
TV Spots
Deleted Scenes
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


EPISODES IV-VI BONUS DISK:
'Empire of Dreams' (in depth making of the 0rginal Trilogy documentary that traces the evolution of Star Wars from a low-budget, labour-of-love space saga to a movie phenomenon that defied the odds and reinvented the rules. At its core, Empire of Dreams tells the story of an independent filmmaker who had to innovate and invent an entirely new way of creating motion pictures. Featuring all-new interviews with George Lucas and more than 40 members of the cast and crew from all three films, Empire of Dreams also includes appearances by a host of filmmakers and media personalities, along with never-before-seen behind-the-scenes footage from the making of the three films. This new documentary brings viewers the most comprehensive look at a pioneer who triumphed against the odds to create an enduring modern fairy tale that has captivated the world) It runs at about 2hrs 30mins

Blooper Reel (over 7 mins)

'The Birth of the Lightsaber' (Its unforgettable hum and scintillating glow are instantly recognizable around the world, and now viewers will discover the origins of this elegant weapon from a more civilized age. This documentary, devoted to the lightsaber, features insight from George Lucas, cast and crew into the history of the iconic laser sword. It showcases the genesis of the lightsaber stunt and special-effects work and illustrates how each film in the Star Wars saga has surpassed the previous one with spectacular action set pieces featuring the Jedi's most trusted weapon)

'The Characters of Star Wars' (An in-depth look at how favourite characters came to be, featuring rare concept art, behind-the-scenes footage and interviews with George Lucas and the cast and crew who shaped the screen's favorite heroes--Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo, Chewbacca, R2-D2 and C-3PO--and the greatest villain of all, Darth Vader)

'The Force Is With Them: 'The Legacy of Star Wars' (Star Wars opened up a galaxy of possibilities to a generation of filmmakers and creative talents. Viewers will hear first-hand from some of the most notable filmmakers of our time about how influential the Star Wars movies have been to their lives)

‘Inspiration to an epic' (A look at the many inspirations George Lucas had to create the world of 'Star Wars')

Saga Trailer (A Trailer for the entire whole Saga)

15 Featureless: 4 from Episode IV chronicling storyline, design, costumes and visual effects, 5 from Episode v chronicling storyline, action scenes, fight sequences, darkness and love story,6 from Episode VI chronicling storyline, design, action scenes, ending the saga, visual effects and fight sequences

Exclusive DVD-ROM Content


I assure you this information 100 percent true. Sources were previously found at the following websites and info will start reamerging on them soon :-
www.theforce.net
www.comingsoon.net
www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html

The main bulk of info has been removed from these sites. Looks like Lucas's spy's are on the look-out. I think alot of this is BULLSHIT! He told us that the 2004 edition was his "true vision" and now he's making even more changes. I expected changes to the prequels but not to the OT. I like a few things, mainly the shiny Vader suit in ANH but thats it. The PT changes seem fair enough but still...WHY CAN'T THE MAN LEAVE HIS FILMS ALONE???? "