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Old 02-23-04 | 12:25 PM
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But where is it airing? TVLand "Kitschen". The word "Kitsch" means "something that appeals to popular or lowbrow taste and is often of poor quality."

TVLand has already stated they won't be bringing the show back when licensing expires in March. I suppose wherever the show turns up in syndication, it does so because licensing its rights only means allowing the TV station to run the already existing, poor quality video masters that have existed for a couple of decades now. It's not like actually having to pony up money up front to clean the show up for release on DVD.

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A) It did not start out on the TVLAND kitchen. TVLAND aired it for the bulk of the time in regular time slots and even did a marathon.

B) TVLAND and SciFi began airing BETTER versions of the 60s show than what had previously aired on the Family Channel and fx. The episodes were much more uncut.

C) Batman has basically never stopped being in syndication since I was a kid... Family Channel... fX... SciFi... TVLAND.

D) You make no sense. To silence the show you would not have it on TV at all.

E) Please remember they also recently did a reunion movie on CBS.
Old 02-23-04 | 03:57 PM
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Off topic but there will be a new Batman Animated show soon called "The Batman" which deal with him when he was in his 20's.
I guess this is to tie in with the new movie which is also set at that time. I believe it will be on KidsWB and then the Cartoon Network several months later.
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From what I have been reading, this is what seems to be on the Bat-agenda:
- New movie in July 2005, starring Christian Bale (and for a very intriguing article on it, check out the news on Cinescape.com today)
- New animated series, The Batman, this fall on WB/ Cartoon Network, featuring "year three" Batman, a guy in his 20s meeting many of the Bat rogues gallery for the first time
- DVD Box sets of the animated series which began in 1992; rumored to be available in June and in October of this year.

Now, my educated guess would be to tie in DVD releases of the 1966 Batman with next summer's movie, since A) feature films generate a lot more interest in these sort of things than animated series do, and B) that gives more than a year to get some quality interviews done with West and Ward, and the other usual suspects.

There have also been long-rumored special DVD editions of the Tim Burton Batman films.
Old 02-24-04 | 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by Cocopugg
Good points. Why not mail your questions to someone at Warner Brothers who would know the answers.

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Why should he do that when you are the only one asserting a conspiracy to keep the series from the public?
Old 02-24-04 | 02:40 AM
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Old 02-24-04 | 07:33 AM
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How is this URL in any way responsive to the questions you have been asked about your position? No one in that thread even mentions your conspiracy theory.
Old 02-24-04 | 08:33 AM
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I simply put the URL up for those interested in more information to go to. I'm sure alot more information can be found on a message board that's dedicated exclusively to the show, than can be found by X-File type conspiracy theorists like myself, right?
Old 02-24-04 | 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by Cocopugg
I simply put the URL up for those interested in more information to go to. I'm sure alot more information can be found on a message board that's dedicated exclusively to the show, than can be found by X-File type conspiracy theorists like myself, right?
No, you put up a URL to a specific thread, not to a message board. This indicates that you were calling attention to that thread. The thread provided no information whatsoever which is relevant to this thread.
Old 02-24-04 | 10:01 AM
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Oh ok, in that case, here:

http://www.workshirtsales.com/cgi-bi...aBB.pl/YaBB.pl

here's the Batman 1966 message board. Anyone who feels there might be some information relevant to this thread, feel free to use it.
Old 02-25-04 | 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by Cocopugg
Oh ok, in that case, here:

http://www.workshirtsales.com/cgi-bi...aBB.pl/YaBB.pl

here's the Batman 1966 message board. Anyone who feels there might be some information relevant to this thread, feel free to use it.
Does anything on that message board back up your assertions? You did say that there were message boards supporting your conspiracy theory. Where are they?
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Hi EPHJ! Here are the facts: 1. Warner and 20th Century Fox can't seem to work out something between each other that will allow them to release Batman on DVD. That is a FACT, and that is how it stands. On the surface, that's fine PR. But looking closely, what are the real reasons a deal can't be worked? Adam West is almost 80 yrs old. I doubt he is holding out for a billion dollar deal. I also doubt the rest of the cast cares to steal Warners' thunder too. Can it be that they are waiting for every single actor and crew of the show to die before striking a deal? I doubt that, since their estates would still be entitled to a piece of the pie. If that is what they are waiting for then the series will never come out on DVD. That is not a FACT but a theory of mine. 2. The TV syndication deal exists probably because a deal was worked out between both parties a LONG TIME AGO. Maybe even 20th Century Fox bought the syndication rights to the show outright, who knows? I don't, this is just another theory of mine. If this is so, that may explain why the show keeps turning up on different cable networks. Maybe Warner has no control over the syndication deal anymore...Like I said, just another theory. 3. Many people on that Batman message board (People ranging from the Director of the recent Batman TV movie "Return to the Batcave", as well as other Hollywood insiders who work with 20th Century Fox as well as Warner Brothers) have already stated numerous times that the show is in "negotiation rights hell", and that there's no way a deal will be struck to release the show on DVD. 4. And this is the only fact I can state first hand...I personally know someone at the Danbury Mint who was in charge of creating a 1966 TV Batmobile. After getting the rights from George Barris (creator of the car) as well as 20th Century Fox, the Warner Brothers people met with my friend and his team. It was the Warner people who at first wanted changes done to the car so it would look more like it did in the 60s comics than the real TV Batmobile. After a few meetings, my friend and his team were told flat out "We don't want the TV show Batmobile to be done. During that meeting they were informed of the company's desire for the public to forget the TV show. Warner Brothers was intent on concentrating on the new Batman theatrical movies, and they were afraid the public would confuse the product with the campy TV show version. At this point my friend was told, off the record, about the president of Warner Brothers' dislike of the TV show, calling it an "embarrassment" to the Batman franchise, and how as long as he runs the company, the show will never make it to DVD. This is not a theory, but a fact told to me first hand. 5. 6. I have met Adam West several times at autograph shows and have asked him about the possiblilities of the show coming to DVD. He has personally told me that it won't happen. While he still gets occassional calls from Warners for some projects, he has been told by the Warner lawyers to no longer wear the Batman costume at these shows, and also never to write the word "Batman" on any of the autographs he signs.

If you do a search on that Batman message board, you will find numerous posts on the subject. 6. Here's a brand new thread I've found on the subject, I hope this helps:

http://www.workshirtsales.com/cgi-bi...num=1077659112

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Old 02-25-04 | 10:37 AM
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I hate to say it, but it does make sense for Warner to think people could confuse the campy original for Nolan's new vision. It's a lot like the fact that DC killed the 'Batman Adventures' comics which was an extension of the 'Batman: Animated Series', due to the fact there is a new Batman cartoon called 'The Batman' with a different artstyle.

Honestly, I think the problem is due to the fact that WB/DC are banking on this new 'Batman' movie and cartoon. They are playing catch up with Marvel and now they have a project and they are banking on it. The only way to do this is take no risks, they want the public to forget about the campy original show, forget about the previous movie's. They want the public to forget the greatest animated series (Tim/ Dini's Batman) so they can pump the new one.
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Hi EPHJ! Here are the facts: 1. Warner and 20th Century Fox can't seem to work out something between each other that will allow them to release Batman on DVD. That is a FACT, and that is how it stands. On the surface, that's fine PR. But looking closely, what are the real reasons a deal can't be worked? Adam West is almost 80 yrs old. I doubt he is holding out for a billion dollar deal. I also doubt the rest of the cast cares to steal Warners' thunder too. Can it be that they are waiting for every single actor and crew of the show to die before striking a deal? I doubt that, since their estates would still be entitled to a piece of the pie. If that is what they are waiting for then the series will never come out on DVD. That is not a FACT but a theory of mine. 2. The TV syndication deal exists probably because a deal was worked out between both parties a LONG TIME AGO. Maybe even 20th Century Fox bought the syndication rights to the show outright, who knows? I don't, this is just another theory of mine. If this is so, that may explain why the show keeps turning up on different cable networks. Maybe Warner has no control over the syndication deal anymore...Like I said, just another theory. 3. Many people on that Batman message board (People ranging from the Director of the recent Batman TV movie "Return to the Batcave", as well as other Hollywood insiders who work with 20th Century Fox as well as Warner Brothers) have already stated numerous times that the show is in "negotiation rights hell", and that there's no way a deal will be struck to release the show on DVD. 4. And this is the only fact I can state first hand...I personally know someone at the Danbury Mint who was in charge of creating a 1966 TV Batmobile. After getting the rights from George Barris (creator of the car) as well as 20th Century Fox, the Warner Brothers people met with my friend and his team. It was the Warner people who at first wanted changes done to the car so it would look more like it did in the 60s comics than the real TV Batmobile. After a few meetings, my friend and his team were told flat out "We don't want the TV show Batmobile to be done. During that meeting they were informed of the company's desire for the public to forget the TV show. Warner Brothers was intent on concentrating on the new Batman theatrical movies, and they were afraid the public would confuse the product with the campy TV show version. At this point my friend was told, off the record, about the president of Warner Brothers' dislike of the TV show, calling it an "embarrassment" to the Batman franchise, and how as long as he runs the company, the show will never make it to DVD. This is not a theory, but a fact told to me first hand. 5. 6. I have met Adam West several times at autograph shows and have asked him about the possiblilities of the show coming to DVD. He has personally told me that it won't happen. While he still gets occassional calls from Warners for some projects, he has been told by the Warner lawyers to no longer wear the Batman costume at these shows, and also never to write the word "Batman" on any of the autographs he signs.

If you do a search on that Batman message board, you will find numerous posts on the subject. 6. Here's a brand new thread I've found on the subject, I hope this helps:

http://www.workshirtsales.com/cgi-bi...num=1077659112
First, you don't know that anything your friend told you is accurate, so that information cannot be deemed by you as fact. Second, the fact that Adam West has an opinion does not make it a fact. Finally, that thread you linked to does not support your position at all.
Old 02-25-04 | 10:54 AM
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At this point my friend was told, off the record, about the president of Warner Brothers' dislike of the TV show, calling it an "embarrassment" to the Batman franchise, and how as long as he runs the company, the show will never make it to DVD. This is not a theory, but a fact told to me first hand.
Your friend told you that he was told by someone else that they were told that the president of Warner dislikes the show?

Not only is that not a "fact", but it is about as far away from "first hand" as you can get.
Old 02-25-04 | 02:23 PM
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Y'know, it also occurs to me that it might be good PR to have Season 2 of the '66 Batman ready for release in July-August of 2005, as Kevin Smith's new Green Hornet movie comes out then.

Following any sensible marketing plan, Fox/WB would release Season 1 preceeding the new Batman flick (scheduled for July) and season 2 as near to the Green Hornet flick as possible.

Nothing Cocopugg has posted convinces me that the business people at Warners or Fox have lost their marbles and are not considering this DVD release, which if marketed properly, could do very well for them and take advantage of feature film publicity.
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First, you don't know that anything your friend told you is accurate, so that information cannot be deemed by you as fact. Second, the fact that Adam West has an opinion does not make it a fact. Finally, that thread you linked to does not support your position at all.
Thanks for stating your position EPKJ. It's obvious to me from all the responses that most people here agree with your color coated position. I won't try to convince you or anyone else because it's obvious you all will believe what it is you want to believe. I can only speak for myself, and all I know is I am 100% convinced the show won't be coming out on DVD in 2005 or in 2010 for that matter. I won't be making any room on my self for a set anytime soon. Since this post is basically beating a dead horse, this will be my last post. Since it's also obvious that EPKJ has to have the last word, wrong as it may be, feel free to post it sir, I won't be reading it, but I'm sure all the people who want to believe what so obviously won't happen, will enjoy reading your words. To those who know the truth I say, either enjoy your Batman TV show videos, or do what many others have done, buy the bootleg. I'm out of here:

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Old 02-25-04 | 02:59 PM
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Thanks for stating your position EPKJ. It's obvious to me from all the responses that most people here agree with your color coated position. I won't try to convince you or anyone else because it's obvious you all will believe what it is you want to believe. I can only speak for myself, and all I know is I am 100% convinced the show won't be coming out on DVD in 2005 or in 2010 for that matter. I won't be making any room on my self for a set anytime soon. Since this post is basically beating a dead horse, this will be my last post. Since it's also obvious that EPKJ has to have the last word, wrong as it may be, feel free to post it sir, I won't be reading it, but I'm sure all the people who want to believe what so obviously won't happen, will enjoy reading your words. To those who know the truth I say, either enjoy your Batman TV show videos, or do what many others have done, buy the bootleg. I'm out of here:
Well, this is so typical. You have no facts at all, so you pretend you won and run away. By the way, what is a "color coated" position? You believe something for which you have no evidence. Instead of just admitting that, you find it necessary to call all your opponents names. I look forward to your posts when Batman Season One is released.

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Old 05-13-04 | 07:10 AM
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new rumors surface

While scouting around the web, I found this recent chat (earlier this month) in which some posters, claiming to have contacts at Warner and/or Fox, wrote that the 1966 Batman series is planned for DVD in 2005. With the popularity of older TV shows on DVD and another Batman film in 2005, it seems a logical conclusion, although I would caution not to get too excited since these are just Internet rumors, after all.

Here is the link (which wasn't working this morning, but should be fixed later in the day):

http://www.workshirtsales.com/cgi-b...&num=1084035796
Old 05-13-04 | 07:35 AM
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Fixed link:

http://www.workshirtsales.com/cgi-bi...num=1084035796

again, grain of salt!
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Good news! Thanks for the update. I personally have thought that there was going to be a tie in for the new movie.
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http://www.workshirtsales.com/cgi-bi...num=1084035796

again, grain of salt!
No NO NO!!! This is all lies.

I have a friend who is deep inside the industry and he told me that the President of Warner Walt Disney Orion specifically told him that the 60s Batman is being systematically erased from people's minds so we'll never be able to even think about it again! In fact, the War in Iraq was started as a diversion from the embarrassment that the 1960's Batman show represents!

My friend's name is Coconutt and he's so deep inside on these things that he can't even see the light of day.

Thanks for the link DrOBoogie1. We'll see what happens.
Old 05-13-04 | 01:27 PM
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No NO NO!!! This is all lies.

I have a friend who is deep inside the industry and he told me that the President of Warner Walt Disney Orion specifically told him that the 60s Batman is being systematically erased from people's minds so we'll never be able to even think about it again! In fact, the War in Iraq was started as a diversion from the embarrassment that the 1960's Batman show represents!

My friend's name is Coconutt and he's so deep inside on these things that he can't even see the light of day.

Thanks for the link DrOBoogie1. We'll see what happens.
Haha, I'm laughing. When the president of a company says NO COMMENT when asked when Batman will be released, it can mean whatever you want it to mean. I take it to mean NO WAY. But let's keep the faith, and believe that these two greedy industrial giants (FOX and WARNER) will work things out and the show will come out in 2005.
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I hate to bring up an old thread, but here we are just 1 month away from 2005 and there is still no Batman TV series on any home DVD radar. My position remains the same, convinced we won't be seeing this show come to DVD anytime soon, not in 2005, 2006 nor as long as the rights continue to belong to both Warner Brothers and 20th Century Fox.

In the past, many posters have continued to speculate that with a new Batman theatrical movie coming out in 2005, as well as the recent cartoon series, that 2005 would be the year the TV show would be released. Nope. Do not even mention the show to the people at Warners. They continue to feel embarrassed by it, and still don't want people to know it ever existed. A deal won't be hammered out between both companies, as greed and power continue to dominate control of this property. Who loses? We fans. The fans who grew up watching this fun show, who would like nothing more than to see it once again, restored to its full glory.

In its day, Batman was among the most colorful TV shows ever done. Today, we can only watch the show sparingly on cable networks that show worn out prints, with faded colors, cut to shreds. It's a shame, because during its original run, Batman was one of the most popular TV shows ever. Today it's nothing more than a faded memory...and that's exactly how the people at the top want the public to remember it as.
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The other series I've been waiting ages for is WILD WILD WEST. One of the best TV shows ever. And yet, nothing.
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My busted VHS copies recorded from FX are begging Fox and Warner to get their heads out of their butts and release Batman soon.

This is my very last huge DVD hope and dream. Ever since The X-Files first season came out on DVD I have had hopes that Batman would be released. I weep at night, truely.

I recently got the Holy Batmania! DVD and it was very cool to get the old documentaries and stuff. It just boggles the mind that this and the movie and the reunion movie are released or going to be released and yet no news about the series.

Dumb Fox & Warner people.


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