60's Batman T.V. Show
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As much as I hate these rights disputes and as much as I'd love to own Batman on DVD, that sounds supremely unfair to me.
Fox gets to make hundreds of millions of dollars but the folks who actually did the work for small change back in the 60s (and only contractually agreed to television airings) get nothing?
Fox gets to make hundreds of millions of dollars but the folks who actually did the work for small change back in the 60s (and only contractually agreed to television airings) get nothing?
I agree that it would be unfair for only the studio releasing it to make money. But it's just never made sense to me that somebody can use something like a song in one medium, but then deny it's use for another. I can't remember the exact source of this old joke, but it's the first thing that comes to mind
"Madam, would you have sex with me for $10 million dollars?"
"Why, I believe I would."
"How about $50?"
"What kind of woman do you take me for?!"
"Madam, that's already been established, we're just negotiating price now."
To compare to song usage: if you've already agreed to let your song be used in a sitcom for TV airing, then the relationship has already been established. Sure you should get more money for a DVD release, but you shouldn't be able to completely stop it. What's needed is some sort of scale of payment that allows these people to still get paid something, but allow the studio to sell it at a reasonable price. Perhaps based on MSRP?
In cases like The Fugitive, where the studio claimed that they couldn't find everyone that contributed music, they could use this formula to set aside a certain amount of funds, then just release the damn thing intact and if somebody came forward and could prove they wrote it, then cut them a check from those funds for what they're due.
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As much as I hate these rights disputes and as much as I'd love to own Batman on DVD, that sounds supremely unfair to me.
Fox gets to make hundreds of millions of dollars but the folks who actually did the work for small change back in the 60s (and only contractually agreed to television airings) get nothing?
Fox gets to make hundreds of millions of dollars but the folks who actually did the work for small change back in the 60s (and only contractually agreed to television airings) get nothing?
The one who had to pay them and hope he makes his money back had to be losing a lot of hair hoping not to go broke.
And then if the producer makes all this money he can then gamble again on someone else's idea or he can sail on his boat with young honeys till he's old like Hef.
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Ultimately, it depends on what the contracts say. Sammy Davis Jr.'s contract may have paid him for television distribution, but made no reference to any "alternate media". His estate would understandably want at least a small piece of the many million$ that Fox (or whoever) is going to be getting for this.
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That small change they got paid for was just thinking of some idea.
The one who had to pay them and hope he makes his money back had to be losing a lot of hair hoping not to go broke.
And then if the producer makes all this money he can then gamble again on someone else's idea or he can sail on his boat with young honeys till he's old like Hef.
The one who had to pay them and hope he makes his money back had to be losing a lot of hair hoping not to go broke.
And then if the producer makes all this money he can then gamble again on someone else's idea or he can sail on his boat with young honeys till he's old like Hef.
The contract was not for any repackagings.
Sucks, but that's the reality. And I don't see how saying "screw them, they already got theirs" makes any logical sense.
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I can understand potential licensing issues with the Green Hornet characters, and possibly the George Barris Batmobile design, but why would a celebrity cameo factor in? Do walk-on actors, no matter how famous, typically retain any say about how a series is distributed?
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[QUOTE=That'sAllFolks;8962885]Didn't Barris desingn the Munsters car? That didn't seem to cause any problems with the DVD release.[/QUOT
Good point , because they also have a theme music and make-up, custumes.
Good point , because they also have a theme music and make-up, custumes.




