Matrix Revolutions before Christmas... (answer: no)
#53
New Member
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think some other people already got this right. This is possible since they would want to piggyback on the advertisements and get in on the holiday season. Whether or not it happens remains to be seen...
I don't think the DVD would actually take that long to produce either. Isn't just about everything for the DVD done in post-production now? And, at worst, they can release a barebones DVD and then come with the super-duper-must-own-if-you-are-a-fan set later... I don't see anyway for this disc to not be released and rereleased...
Anyways, jim_cook87 put an informative breakdown of the percentages amd dropoffs. From just looking at the percentages, it appears Revolutions is on par with the norm.
Being the skeptic that I am, I looked at the actual numbers courtesy of boxofficemojo.com. Matrix 3 made 16.5M on Friday and 19.5 on Saturday. Compared to Matrix 2 which made 31.3M on Friday and 34.4 on Saturday. That is a huge difference, and probably not what they expected.
If these trends continue... It will probably make just a little over half of what Reloaded made. I think thats being generous though, since this movie is getting extremely bad publicity. A lot of money still, but not the profits they expected.
I don't think the DVD would actually take that long to produce either. Isn't just about everything for the DVD done in post-production now? And, at worst, they can release a barebones DVD and then come with the super-duper-must-own-if-you-are-a-fan set later... I don't see anyway for this disc to not be released and rereleased...
Anyways, jim_cook87 put an informative breakdown of the percentages amd dropoffs. From just looking at the percentages, it appears Revolutions is on par with the norm.
Being the skeptic that I am, I looked at the actual numbers courtesy of boxofficemojo.com. Matrix 3 made 16.5M on Friday and 19.5 on Saturday. Compared to Matrix 2 which made 31.3M on Friday and 34.4 on Saturday. That is a huge difference, and probably not what they expected.
If these trends continue... It will probably make just a little over half of what Reloaded made. I think thats being generous though, since this movie is getting extremely bad publicity. A lot of money still, but not the profits they expected.
#54
Senior Member
Originally posted by talemyn
Actually, maybe she has my copy too . . . I certainly don't see it in my collection . . .
Actually, maybe she has my copy too . . . I certainly don't see it in my collection . . .
Now that the final two films have been released, I'm not so hot for a box set.

Though, I think I'm the only one who thinks Reloaded was *way* better than Revolutions.
#55
New Member
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Feathers McGraw
Guess that makes three of us. I've been expecting a box set from the beginning, so I never did purchase it.
Now that the final two films have been released, I'm not so hot for a box set.
Though, I think I'm the only one who thinks Reloaded was *way* better than Revolutions.
Guess that makes three of us. I've been expecting a box set from the beginning, so I never did purchase it.
Now that the final two films have been released, I'm not so hot for a box set.

Though, I think I'm the only one who thinks Reloaded was *way* better than Revolutions.
#57
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Originally posted by RalphWiggum80
Being the skeptic that I am, I looked at the actual numbers courtesy of boxofficemojo.com. Matrix 3 made 16.5M on Friday and 19.5 on Saturday. Compared to Matrix 2 which made 31.3M on Friday and 34.4 on Saturday. That is a huge difference, and probably not what they expected.
Being the skeptic that I am, I looked at the actual numbers courtesy of boxofficemojo.com. Matrix 3 made 16.5M on Friday and 19.5 on Saturday. Compared to Matrix 2 which made 31.3M on Friday and 34.4 on Saturday. That is a huge difference, and probably not what they expected.
1) Actual numbers (a 50% drop of from 8 mil. is still better than a 10% drop of from 4 mil.), and
2) Anticipated performance . . . I think the expectations for Matrix: Revolutions were a tad higher than the ones for Bringing Down The house and Anger Management (for example).
I, too, am often skeptical and, apperantly, a little more of a geek.
I actually hit Excel to check out some hypothetical numbers. Assuming that each movie started out with the same number of viewers on opening day (I used 1 million) and using those drops in viewing percentage, out of those 11 movies, only X2, Anger Management , and Bringing Down the House would have fewer viewers than Revolutions after that first Monday. Considering the amount of hype around this film, I would think that that would indicate a poorer performance than expected.
#61
DVD Talk Hero
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Sorry, you might not be getting it so let me explain it better.
Theaters pay a big chunk to get the reels they do. The first few weeks take in is chopped up into percentages and a great big chunk of that % is taken away by the studio aside from what they make from the sale of the film. theaters make their money off popcorn and drinks for those few weeks of that new release so they aren't seeing crap of that weekend box office. It comes time to when the film is in it's 4-8 week run that the theater is actually making a profit off that film. This is why in the past theaters want a bigger wait for home release so they can enjoy the profits some.
makes sense now? kthx
Sorry, you might not be getting it so let me explain it better.
Theaters pay a big chunk to get the reels they do. The first few weeks take in is chopped up into percentages and a great big chunk of that % is taken away by the studio aside from what they make from the sale of the film. theaters make their money off popcorn and drinks for those few weeks of that new release so they aren't seeing crap of that weekend box office. It comes time to when the film is in it's 4-8 week run that the theater is actually making a profit off that film. This is why in the past theaters want a bigger wait for home release so they can enjoy the profits some.
makes sense now? kthx
#62
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 4,551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by wfujosh
I understood you before. My point is that FJ2K WAS NOT IN THEATERS (or at least being screened) in weeks 4-8. It didn't last past weekend #1 in most cities. So my point is why would they complain about it being released on DVD so early when it wasn't being screened any longer?
I understood you before. My point is that FJ2K WAS NOT IN THEATERS (or at least being screened) in weeks 4-8. It didn't last past weekend #1 in most cities. So my point is why would they complain about it being released on DVD so early when it wasn't being screened any longer?
#63
DVD Talk Limited Edition
We'll see how it all shakes out, but considering how many people already have the first two Matrix movies, it makes absolutely no sense to only be able to buy the third one if you buy the first two. I, for one, will buy the third movie (I preferred it to the 2nd, actually) if it is sold by itself, and will not buy it if I have to rebuy the movies I already have (unless it cost the same for all three it would normally cost for just one). I can't believe I'm the only one.
#64
DVD Talk Legend
This is a stupid rumor. There is zero possibility of a movie that opened in theaters last week being on DVD before this Christmas. Especially a movie that opened at #1 with a huge weekend, regardless of whether it was or wasn't as huge as it might have been. It was still huge.
Revolutions will come to DVD in May or June, and we'll see an individual release as well as likely a box set of the three.
Revolutions will come to DVD in May or June, and we'll see an individual release as well as likely a box set of the three.
#65
DVD Talk Godfather
Originally posted by Ginwen
We'll see how it all shakes out, but considering how many people already have the first two Matrix movies, it makes absolutely no sense to only be able to buy the third one if you buy the first two. I, for one, will buy the third movie (I preferred it to the 2nd, actually) if it is sold by itself, and will not buy it if I have to rebuy the movies I already have (unless it cost the same for all three it would normally cost for just one). I can't believe I'm the only one.
We'll see how it all shakes out, but considering how many people already have the first two Matrix movies, it makes absolutely no sense to only be able to buy the third one if you buy the first two. I, for one, will buy the third movie (I preferred it to the 2nd, actually) if it is sold by itself, and will not buy it if I have to rebuy the movies I already have (unless it cost the same for all three it would normally cost for just one). I can't believe I'm the only one.
#66
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: My chair
"In its first seven days, "Revolutions" has amassed a worldwide gross of $232.2 million, with $93.6 million coming from the domestic side and $138.6 million from international receipts. Traditionally, the international side of the "Matrix" series has outperformed the domestic side, and the third film in the series looks to continue that pattern. "
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/...eut/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/...eut/index.html
#67
DVD Talk Special Edition
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,014
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Detroit, MI
"Warners estimated the five-day opening of "Revolutions" at $204 million. The studio issued a news release dated Monday that hailed the film as "the biggest consecutive five-day opening in motion picture history."
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/va/2003...876893100.html
I think we can all agree this is hardly a box office disappointment!
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/va/2003...876893100.html
I think we can all agree this is hardly a box office disappointment!
#69
Member
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: BUFFALO
From IGN:
November 19, 2003 - The Matrix Revolutions is coming home, a little faster than many people might have thought. The final chapter in the trilogy by the Wachowskis will be hitting stores on January 6th, 2004, according to a notification that was sent out to certain retailers earlier today.
IGN FilmForce reported last week that meetings had taken place at Warners regarding an early release of the film to DVD as a response to the film's weak domestic box office and distribution over the Internet. No word on what special features will be included on the disc.
November 19, 2003 - The Matrix Revolutions is coming home, a little faster than many people might have thought. The final chapter in the trilogy by the Wachowskis will be hitting stores on January 6th, 2004, according to a notification that was sent out to certain retailers earlier today.
IGN FilmForce reported last week that meetings had taken place at Warners regarding an early release of the film to DVD as a response to the film's weak domestic box office and distribution over the Internet. No word on what special features will be included on the disc.
#71
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I guess January 6th, 2004 is official...
from dvdanswers.com
Title: The Matrix Revolutions
Starring: Keanu Reaves
Released: 6th January 2004
SRP: TBC
Further Details
Warner Home Video yesterday confirmed to a number of retailers that the upcoming region one release of The Matrix Revolutions will be arriving in shops from the 6th January next year. I'm afraid we have no other details on this super fast turn-around yet, although the disc is expected to retail at around $29.95. Naturally, we'll bring you the official disc specs and artwork as soon as they become available to us.
http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?...2759&n=1&burl=
from dvdanswers.com
Title: The Matrix Revolutions
Starring: Keanu Reaves
Released: 6th January 2004
SRP: TBC
Further Details
Warner Home Video yesterday confirmed to a number of retailers that the upcoming region one release of The Matrix Revolutions will be arriving in shops from the 6th January next year. I'm afraid we have no other details on this super fast turn-around yet, although the disc is expected to retail at around $29.95. Naturally, we'll bring you the official disc specs and artwork as soon as they become available to us.
http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?...2759&n=1&burl=



