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Old 04-15-03 | 11:25 AM
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August 26th (approx.) for the regular and November for the extended.
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Old 04-15-03 | 11:26 AM
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I'm guessing June/July and Novemeber just as before.
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Old 04-15-03 | 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by REL77
I could really see them doing a 2 towers statues, one of Orthanac, and one of Barud Dur (spelling). I think that would be an awsome package.
I know I'm a moron and I don't read books, so I don't know the names of everything. Also, I barely know the names of the characters, and yes, I've seen both movies. Orthanac and Barud Dur, are those the names of the two towers? Also, what are the two towers? One of them is the place the bad wizard dude lives in and Gandolf stands on in the first movie, right?

If so, then yes, Orthanac and Barud Dur should be the statues with the extended cut. If not, then they should be the two towers.

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Old 04-15-03 | 11:55 AM
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Orthanc is Saruman's tower (the "bad wizard dude") in Isengard.

Barad Dur is Sauron's (the main bad guy) tower in Mordor.
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Old 04-15-03 | 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
That movie is called Bandits.
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Old 04-15-03 | 12:02 PM
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Re: Re: For those who have DVD changers...

Originally posted by RocShemp
According to IMDB.com:

"Rumors in early 2003 have it that the first cut is six hours long because of the amount of material from Tolkien's original story that remains to be covered."

http://us.imdb.com/Trivia?0167260

If this is true, comparing the rough cut estimates to the actual runtimes of the EE of the first two films, I'd say we should expect something closer to 5+ hours for the ROTK EE.
I remember reading in Entertainment Weekly that the rough cut of "Two Towers" was four hours in length.

How the hell can ROTK have a rough cut of 6 Hours, the book itself doen't seem that long.
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Old 04-15-03 | 12:07 PM
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How about the 20+ hour challenge?

Watch the whole Theatrical release(est 9+ hours), followed by the EE of the trilogy (est 11+ hours)....

If you are truly insane, do the 20+ hour challenge then rewatch all 3 movies with commentaries right after another, I am not even sure how many days that will take!
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Old 04-15-03 | 12:07 PM
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It's been a couple years since I read the books, but I think that TT ended early, and there was still some stuff that was supposed to happen. I guess that means that the end of the TT book is the beginning of RotK movie. Of course, my memory might be wrong.
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Old 04-15-03 | 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by Ghery
It's been a couple years since I read the books, but I think that TT ended early, and there was still some stuff that was supposed to happen. I guess that means that the end of the TT book is the beginning of RotK movie. Of course, my memory might be wrong.
No, you're absolutely right. In fact there was about 1/4 of the TTT book that didn't make it into the movie. I could definately see a 6 hour cut of ROTK (although I kinda have my doubts).
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Old 04-15-03 | 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ghery
It's been a couple years since I read the books, but I think that TT ended early, and there was still some stuff that was supposed to happen. I guess that means that the end of the TT book is the beginning of RotK movie. Of course, my memory might be wrong.
When compared to the book, P. Jackson shuffled the entire book around. Notably, the battle at Helm's Deep happened a quarter of the way into the book, not at the end. More than the last quarter of the book is the Frodo/Sam/Gollum storyline which is broken up within the movie.
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Old 04-15-03 | 12:24 PM
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Sorry, Spoiler alert...

I just remember the end of the TT book ending with Pippen and Gandalf taking off after Pippin used the seeing stone, and Sam already taking the ring from Frodo (after the big spider chick encounter). Sorry, exact names escape me.

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Old 04-15-03 | 12:41 PM
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Spoiler.

I read the books, but not everyone has.
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Old 04-15-03 | 12:45 PM
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I think I will be picking up both editions, just like I did w/ the FotR last year.

I can't wait for this release, even though I loved the theatrical edition, I think the film will greatly benefit from the extended footage.
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Old 04-15-03 | 03:12 PM
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Thanks for the spoilers!!!!!! Now I'm going to jump out of the window since I already know what's going to happen. Seriously put "spoilers" please, as I have not yet read the book and by reading you post, I think I know the ending.
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The only thing that has been revealed is the beginning of ROTK. I agree that it needs to be in spoiler tags.
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Yes, PJ has stated that he is moving some of the stuff around. For those that have read the books, the very ending of the book will not be in the movie. It will end with the climatic part. And not due the last 2 or 3 chapters I believe. I can understand why. They showed the forshadowing of it in the FotR and that was all they were doing. PJ has handeled this as best he could for such an incrediable long movie.
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Sorry about that. Just figured out how to black out the text so that you have to highlight it. Won't happen again...
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Originally posted by REL77
Yes, PJ has stated that he is moving some of the stuff around. For those that have read the books, the very ending of the book will not be in the movie. It will end with the climatic part. And not due the last 2 or 3 chapters I believe. I can understand why. They showed the forshadowing of it in the FotR and that was all they were doing. PJ has handeled this as best he could for such an incrediable long movie.
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The end of RotK you mean? Where they have to fight to regain control of the Shire? I hope you mean that isn't in the movie, I didn't like that part of the book....
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Originally posted by Ghery
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The end of RotK you mean? Where they have to fight to regain control of the Shire? I hope you mean that isn't in the movie, I didn't like that part of the book....
Exactly. He said that part wouldnt be in. That was why there was the little seen in FotR. Just for the hard caore book fans to see something along those lines
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Old 04-15-03 | 07:34 PM
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It's true TTT ended much earlier than the book.
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After Sam, Frodo and Gollum/Smeagol continue on their way to Mordor, the resurfaced Gollum leads them into the lair of Shelob - an ancient spider-like monster - where Frodo is "killed." Sam takes Sting and becomes the new Ringbearer (albeit for a while) and leaves Frodo's body in Shelob's lair. A little while latter Sam hears a band of Mordor Orcs talking (he slipped on the Ring to not be seen and found that his hearing was heightened with iton) about a victim of Shelob's that they found and how he was left for dead. It turns out Shelob's poison doesn't kill but leaves in a state very much like death so she can dine on her victims at her leisure. Sam realizes who they are talking about is Frodo and he sets out to rescue him.


Even though I'm cool with Jackson leaving this part for the beginning of part three (imagine how startled and confused the one's who haven't read the book would feel if the sequence is actually presented in parts rather than one whole continous event) but I would have prefered that
Spoiler:
TTT had ended in a very dramatic fashion with Sam marching of with Sting and the Ring after Frodo had "died" and then reveal him to actually be alive 30 to 40 minutes into ROTK.
I just felt that even though it was a good try to have Gollum/Smeagol sound so ominous at the end of the second film it just didn't have any real oomph and felt more like the film ended as if no big deal.

As for the last part of the book,
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Peter Jackson said he had several unsuccessful tries at included a truncatedversion of the Scouring of the Shire as this is the point in the story when Saruman's life comes to an end but was unable to pull it off without the film running for one extra hour. This is why Christopher Lee has been reported to have filmed his character's death sever times in sever different ways. I guess they may just have Wormtongue slice his throat in the scene where Mithrandir visits Curin at Orthanc and and Pippin first gets a holdof the Palantir.


Anywho, I guess I'll just have to wait 'til this December to find out.

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Originally posted by RocShemp
I just felt that even though it was a good try to have Gollum/Smeagol sound so ominous at the end of the second film it just didn't have any real oomph and felt more like the film ended as if no big deal.
I see where you're coming from, but I had no problem with this. I view the movies really as one long movie rather than a trilogy. It's seems that's the way Jackson approached it as well. FOTR had no real ending, TTT had no real ending or beggining (just picking up where FOTR left off) and ROTK will likely have no real beginning (just picking up where TTT left off).

This makes sense since LOTR is one book. It's a common misconception that it's a trilogy. It was all written and released at the same time and the breaks between the books are really no more than the breaks between any other chapters. It was just originally published in those three sections (and still is today for convenience/money grubbing).
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I know it was all one book but I guess The Empire Strikes Back has me spoiled. But since Jackson ended it earlier I think he could have ended atmore of a cliffhanger. In fact, even though it's all one book where The Two Towers portion of the novel ends is a cliffhanger (moreso then the pseudo cliffhanger in the film version). itjust came across as if Jackson wastrying togive film goers a nagging feeling that no good is going to happen to Frodo and Sam in part three but it didn't com across quite right.
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Old 04-15-03 | 08:02 PM
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I will buy both versions simply b/c I loved the film.

Really cool that Jackson is letting us know whats coming on the EE before the release of the theatrical cut.
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Suprisingly I didn't see anybody mention the rating of the Two Towers Extended Cut. If anyone is interested it's rated PG-13.

http://www.filmratings.com/ lists the following:

Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers Special Extended Edition, The (2003)
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PG-13 Rated PG-13 for epic battle sequences and scary images.
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Old 04-15-03 | 09:43 PM
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Yikes!!

Originally posted by RocShemp
If this is true, comparing the rough cut estimates to the actual runtimes of the EE of the first two films, I'd say we should expect something closer to 5+ hours for the ROTK EE.
There's the possibility we may be seeing a four-hour theatrical release of The Return of the King. I really DO hope they put in an intermission break with such a long movie!

I just can't imagine a five-hour Extended Edition of the movie on DVD, either.
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