Hi guys,

You have helped me in the past to make up my mind so i'm back to ask some more questions. Well i've decided i want to upgrade to 6.1.

First off is it worth the $$$ to buy a new reciever ?

ok i think i have it narrowed down to 2 recievers
Denon 2802 and Sony STR-DA5es

anything good or bad about these ?

Speakers are Procinema Definitive Technology, if that helps.

I have a question about Dolby EX, is it discrete or matrixed ?

The Sony has Dolby EX but the Denon doesn't. It has Dolby 6.1 Matrixed. Is this the same thing ? If it isn't the same thing is it a big diffrence ?

I really wanted this so i could watch LOTR and the Star Wars movies in Dolby EX.

Also i have a question about placement of the sixth speaker (rear surround) right now my seating position is against the back wall. Should the speaker be pointed directly down at me or should i experiment to find what works best ?

thanks for the help

Have you considered the Denon 3802 instead of the 2802....the 3802 to is more apples to apples with the SONY that you're looking at.

Overall, I'm a big Denon fan (I have the 4800) and not much of a SONY receiver fan. The Denon to me was much smoother, better handling of the range of sounds and volumes and much fuller in sound.

I believe that the 3802 has 6.1 discrete and also has ProLogic II if that benefits you at all.

Which receiver do you have now?

What is your price range?

i'm still confused about this discrete vs matrix 6.1.
Is Dolby EX discrete or matrixed ?
I don't think any of the Denon's X802's support Dolby Ex, Even the THX models.

Is it worth to buy another reciever that supports Dolby Ex ?

I have a Sony STR-DE835

I would like to spend around $300 but could go up to around $500. I know some of these recievers are listed way above these prices but i've seen some sales that take a good % off. Also i'll probably sell the Sony STR-DE835 so that'll bump the price up a $100 or so.

Your Sony DE-835 retailed for $499, I think. I don't think it is worth it for you to upgrade unless you can go to higher price point.

Receivers like the Denon 3802 or the Onkyo SR-700 (I'm not a big sony receiver fan) should be a big improvement. But they retail for $800-1000 (Online Prices $600-750).

Receivers like the Denon 2802, Onkyo SR-600, or Outlaw Audio 1050. (Retail prices $500-800 Online Prices $400-500) They are nice receivers, but I don't think the improvement would be large enough to warrant the cost of the upgrade. (The Denon 2802 is a possible exception.)

Just my .02

Dolby Ex is a matrixed rear channel.
DTS-ES is discrete info to suround back.

Considered Onkyo yet?