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Old 08-13-24 | 10:58 AM
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Re: Roy Thomas is trying to get credit for character creations including Wolverine.

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
In a visual medium like comics 90% of a character's popularity is dictated by the artist who came up with the design. In most cases the bulk of credit should go to the artist unless the writer/editor literally dictated what visual elements would go into the character.
I disagree with this, particularly with characters that change in design over time... and while a design in a visual medium can make a character stand out the writing really helps them stay relevant, IMHO (and I know this is delving into Stan Lee vs. Kirby talk).

Even with Wolverine, he was basically a shell of a character in his first appearance in Hulk, with an almost completely different design and concept. That's not to say that there needs to be a movie end credits list for created by but if we're talking popularity, it is often not just about the original design.
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Old 08-13-24 | 11:55 AM
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Re: Roy Thomas is trying to get credit for character creations including Wolverine.

I don't know if I believe that. Wolverine was a cool design and nothing more. It was the writers that fleshed him out and made him a character. Deadpool same thing.

Len Wein, Chris Claremont, John Byrne all had more to do with creating the "character" of Wolverine more than Thomas.

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Old 08-13-24 | 02:43 PM
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Re: Roy Thomas is trying to get credit for character creations including Wolverine.

Originally Posted by fujishig
I disagree with this, particularly with characters that change in design over time... and while a design in a visual medium can make a character stand out the writing really helps them stay relevant, IMHO (and I know this is delving into Stan Lee vs. Kirby talk).

Even with Wolverine, he was basically a shell of a character in his first appearance in Hulk, with an almost completely different design and concept. That's not to say that there needs to be a movie end credits list for created by but if we're talking popularity, it is often not just about the original design.
Same. Daredevil was created by Stan Lee and Bill Everett, but it's Wally Wood who gave the character his iconic look.

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