DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
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DVD Talk Hero
Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
I didn't even know someone was supposed to die and I figured that character was a goner anyway.
#154
Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
This is so stupid. Killing off him off, and watch, they're going to bring him back in another Crisis event down the line. They gotta make things overly complicated.
Why don't they just quietly do away with the amor, or whatever else marks him as the "New 52" and just have an issue #whatever, that has a back up of the new, revised origin? Or just end it without killing him. Give Superman comics a break for 6 months-1 year, and roll out a new Superman title?
Why don't they just quietly do away with the amor, or whatever else marks him as the "New 52" and just have an issue #whatever, that has a back up of the new, revised origin? Or just end it without killing him. Give Superman comics a break for 6 months-1 year, and roll out a new Superman title?
#155
DVD Talk Legend
Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
No different from killing Earth 2 supes in Infinite Crisis. As long as the story is good, doesnt bother me.
#156
DVD Talk Hero
Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
This is so stupid. Killing off him off, and watch, they're going to bring him back in another Crisis event down the line. They gotta make things overly complicated.
Why don't they just quietly do away with the amor, or whatever else marks him as the "New 52" and just have an issue #whatever, that has a back up of the new, revised origin? Or just end it without killing him. Give Superman comics a break for 6 months-1 year, and roll out a new Superman title?
Why don't they just quietly do away with the amor, or whatever else marks him as the "New 52" and just have an issue #whatever, that has a back up of the new, revised origin? Or just end it without killing him. Give Superman comics a break for 6 months-1 year, and roll out a new Superman title?
Here is some of the promotional art and covers for Rebirth.
http://www.newsarama.com/28577-the-n...t-gallery.html
#157
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I don't think he's coming back anytime soon. The Post-Crisis Superman we knew for decades is coming back in his own book.
Here is some of the promotional art and covers for Rebirth.
http://www.newsarama.com/28577-the-n...t-gallery.html
Here is some of the promotional art and covers for Rebirth.
http://www.newsarama.com/28577-the-n...t-gallery.html
#158
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Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
Well, someone on Reddit already has the DC Universe Rebirth #1 and Bleeding Cool, being the way they are, ran with the spoiler story. For all of those who want to know
Spoiler:
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#160
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Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
Yup, they went there and I think its amazing. It's a bold move, even if it will piss off a segment of fans.
#161
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Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
My opinion of the whole thing:
Spoiler:
#162
DVD Talk Hero
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Who exactly will get upset? Rebirth sounds like a great return to form for DC. The people that will get upset don't read comics in the first place. I'll probably buy the Rebirth Omnibus.
As for spoilers, that horse is out of the barn and has been for a long time. It's basically impossible to remain spoiler-free for anything like comics unless you completely avoid the Internet. You have to plan for that in advance. The reveal definitely has me intrigued.
As for spoilers, that horse is out of the barn and has been for a long time. It's basically impossible to remain spoiler-free for anything like comics unless you completely avoid the Internet. You have to plan for that in advance. The reveal definitely has me intrigued.
#163
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Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
Who exactly will get upset? Rebirth sounds like a great return to form for DC. The people that will get upset don't read comics in the first place. I'll probably buy the Rebirth Omnibus.
As for spoilers, that horse is out of the barn and has been for a long time. It's basically impossible to remain spoiler-free for anything like comics unless you completely avoid the Internet. You have to plan for that in advance. The reveal definitely has me intrigued.
As for spoilers, that horse is out of the barn and has been for a long time. It's basically impossible to remain spoiler-free for anything like comics unless you completely avoid the Internet. You have to plan for that in advance. The reveal definitely has me intrigued.
The spoilers could have been prevented in DC marketing was more efficient in what they do. This is a corporate problem. Disney was able to keep everything spoiler free for Star Wars until release date. DC/WB should had been able to do the same with such a big event.
#164
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Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
Another thing dawn on me on why I'm not completely sold on the what happens in Rebirth #1
Spoiler:
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#166
DVD Talk Hero
Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
Sometimes it's ok for properties/mini series to remain self contained and not part of the all encompassing multiverse. I think Wildstorm properties were much better off when they were separate. And even though they use the same characters, I thought elseworlds like Kingdom Come and the Golden Age were much better just being stories with an actual ending (seriously, did anything good come out of extending Kingdom Come?)
On the Marvel side, I thought Age of Apocalypse worked much better before they revisited the world over and over again.
By the way, whatever did they do with Pandora and the other stuff they were setting up at the beginning of the New 52? Or is that part of this too?
On the Marvel side, I thought Age of Apocalypse worked much better before they revisited the world over and over again.
By the way, whatever did they do with Pandora and the other stuff they were setting up at the beginning of the New 52? Or is that part of this too?
#167
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I didn't like it when Geoff Johns brought KC into the JSA. On one hand, it was playing off of the Earth-1/Earth-2 tradition, but on the other, it seemed like Johns was relying on a very successful and popular story line, to give his own writing significance.
DC even gave Magog his own series, which seemed contrary to the intended purpose of the character.
By the way, whatever did they do with Pandora and the other stuff they were setting up at the beginning of the New 52? Or is that part of this too?
And about Rebirth:
Spoiler:
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#168
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Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
DC Comics really fucked themselves with this one. Spoilers from Justice League #50:
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#169
DVD Talk Hero
Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
Yeah, that Golden Age. They certainly incorporated aspects into the DC universe at the time (and Robinson started off as co writer for the JSA revival), but if you read the original story (which is highly recommended, though I don't know if it's currently in print) there are many aspects that stayed elseworlds only. In that case the original creator was involved and you could argue that he just brought some of his ideas over.
Completely off tangent at this point, but it's stuff like Johns and Robinson on JSA and Robinson on Starman that made me extremely sad that DC threw away much of the old continuity with new 52. Plus the revival teen titans still doesn't seem like my cup of tea, and there's no Legion announced or anything yet, right?
Edited to add: wait is his real name really a big deal? I'm so lost.
Completely off tangent at this point, but it's stuff like Johns and Robinson on JSA and Robinson on Starman that made me extremely sad that DC threw away much of the old continuity with new 52. Plus the revival teen titans still doesn't seem like my cup of tea, and there's no Legion announced or anything yet, right?
Edited to add: wait is his real name really a big deal? I'm so lost.
#170
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#171
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Spoiler:
Yeah, that Golden Age. They certainly incorporated aspects into the DC universe at the time (and Robinson started off as co writer for the JSA revival), but if you read the original story (which is highly recommended, though I don't know if it's currently in print) there are many aspects that stayed elseworlds only. In that case the original creator was involved and you could argue that he just brought some of his ideas over.
Plus the revival teen titans still doesn't seem like my cup of tea, and there's no Legion announced or anything yet, right?
When the new generation of sidekicks formed a group (The Tim Drake Robin, Impulse, Superboy from the Reign of Supermen, Wonder Girl II, and Arrowette).
Then DC or Johns got into the mix and wanted to relive the 80s and called them The Teen Titans, and changed Impulse to resemble Kid Flash.
Legion I have no idea. Man, they can never get a good grasp on that idea. I read online how cool the concept of LOSH was, so I finally gave one of DC's many interpretations of it a try. Jim Shooter was writing it, and Francis Manapul. I think this was in 2008.
It was pretty fun. No decompressed writing, and the whole thing had the look of Star Wars, and the feel of Star Trek, just with superheroes. The artist couldn't meet deadlines though, and low sales eventually killed it.
Spoiler:
I really liked the idea of LOSH after reading Alan Moore's LOSH-analogue, The League of Infinity.
Spoilerized for size
Spoiler:
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#173
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Ah yes, by teen titans I meant not only the ones who grew up (and had actually become the core of the Justice League right before New 52), but also the whole Young Justice class who became the new Teen Titans. I've been collecting this Titans Hunt mini to see if they bring them back, but I suspect not. The team titans were like an alternate/fake reality version that came to our Earth because of Monarch (it's all very convoluted).
I realize deaging the adult heroes made having almost two full generations of legacy heroes (and the JSA) problematic, but I still miss them.
The Shooter/Manapul LoSH run was off of the Waid/Kitson reimagining of the Legion as anti government teens. I'm sure low sales had something to do with it, but it was ultimately Johns wanting to bring back the original Legion (without telling Shooter) that killed it off. Shooter wrote about it on the blog he was writing, along with how Manapul would often have no regards for his script when drawing stuff.
I realize deaging the adult heroes made having almost two full generations of legacy heroes (and the JSA) problematic, but I still miss them.
The Shooter/Manapul LoSH run was off of the Waid/Kitson reimagining of the Legion as anti government teens. I'm sure low sales had something to do with it, but it was ultimately Johns wanting to bring back the original Legion (without telling Shooter) that killed it off. Shooter wrote about it on the blog he was writing, along with how Manapul would often have no regards for his script when drawing stuff.
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Re: DC Comics to relaunch everything with #1s in June 2016
Anyone doing the midnight release? DC and Marvel has authorized stores to sell their books at midnight so you can pick up more than Rebirth.
#175
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Ah yes, by teen titans I meant not only the ones who grew up (and had actually become the core of the Justice League right before New 52), but also the whole Young Justice class who became the new Teen Titans.
I realize deaging the adult heroes made having almost two full generations of legacy heroes (and the JSA) problematic, but I still miss them.
I realize deaging the adult heroes made having almost two full generations of legacy heroes (and the JSA) problematic, but I still miss them.
...but it was ultimately Johns wanting to bring back the original Legion (without telling Shooter) that killed it off. Shooter wrote about it on the blog he was writing, along with how Manapul would often have no regards for his script when drawing stuff.
Even though Shooter sounds like a jerk, I always enjoy reading his commentary on the industry, and the behind-the-scenes process.