Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
My name's Obi-Wan Jabroni. That's me. So whenever you guys say Obi-Wan Jabroni, you're clearly talking about me.
02-19-13 | 07:18 PM
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02-19-13 | 07:24 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
I'd like to make these two formal Challenges
I haven't seen anything yet to support that Layla is from an alternate timeline or from the future.
If Rockmjd23 did, in fact, say "Beast", then it should be scored separately from "Dark Beast."
Can someone provide more information about Layla Miller? I don't know much about her, but from what I read, it sounds like she is a contemporaneous mutant, who has traveled to the future, and then returned to the present. At a glance, it doesn't appear to me that she is from an alternate timeline or from the future.
If Rockmjd23 did, in fact, say "Beast", then it should be scored separately from "Dark Beast."
02-19-13 | 07:25 PM
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02-19-13 | 07:27 PM
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02-19-13 | 07:37 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
No - if Shatterstar is from a century in the future and is roughly 20 years old or so. Then either Longshot had him when he was in 100's or Longshot is from a distant future point OR as EVERYTHING involving Rita Riccochet/X-Babies/Longshot indicates - TIME MOVES DIFFERENTLY in the Mojo Verse which would count as an alternate timeline.
02-19-13 | 07:39 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
Is it an alternate past? (Is that even a thing)? The question specifically asks about the future and/or alternate timelines -- I'm not reading the All-New X-Men, but my understanding is that the cast is the original X-Men from our timeline brought forward in time to today. So unless there's some other alternate timeline Cyclops out there, I would not count it as correct.
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02-19-13 | 07:51 PM
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02-19-13 | 08:08 PM
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02-19-13 | 08:11 PM
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02-19-13 | 08:13 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
I didn't know a comic published by Valiant, but I thought of a clever answer and a full valid defense for it when it was declared wrong. I was very proud of myself until I realized just now that it's a Sheep question.
02-19-13 | 08:18 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
No - if Shatterstar is from a century in the future and is roughly 20 years old or so. Then either Longshot had him when he was in 100's or Longshot is from a distant future point OR as EVERYTHING involving Rita Riccochet/X-Babies/Longshot indicates - TIME MOVES DIFFERENTLY in the Mojo Verse which would count as an alternate timeline.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse_(Marvel_Comics)
Note some key sentences:
This, in addition to A.R.M.O.R.'s observation that Lyra arrived from an alternate reality[2] indicates that the topology of the Marvel multiverse is based on new realities branching off from key nodes of a timeline instead of strictly parallel dimensions.
A Universe/continuity is a single reality, such as Earth-616, the mainstream Marvel Universe/Continuity. In Marvel Comics, the concept of a continuity is not the same as "dimension" or "universe"; for example, characters like Mephisto and Dormammu hail from alternate dimensions and the Celestials from another galaxy, but they all nevertheless belong to Universe-616.
The Mojoverse: A dimension where all beings are addicted to gladiator-like television programs.
The Hill: A dangerous pocket dimension used by Mikhail Rasputin after flooding the Morlock tunnels. Rasputin brought all Morlocks to The Hill to raise them in a survival of the fittest mentality. In this dimension time runs several times faster. While in 616 only 1 or 2 years passed more than ten years passed in the Hill. Marrow and the other Gene Nation members grew up in this dimension.
02-19-13 | 08:19 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
But seriously, I don't think Layla Miller should count (at least based on what little I know about her) and the Beast thing I guess just comes down to how picky you want to be. Beast and Dark Beast ARE two different characters.
02-19-13 | 08:21 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
If the Mojoverse is indeed declared an alternate dimension, I want to point out that my choice of Wolverine is in those pics.
02-19-13 | 08:22 PM
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02-19-13 | 08:25 PM
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02-19-13 | 08:27 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
okay, Im working on some rulings here, but I want to ask about Layla Miller. My understanding of her was that she was one thing in this time line and then in the alternate House of M timeline, she was different. Then when those timelines merged, the House of M Layla Miller replaced the Layla Miller we see now. If that is the case, then i would consider her a character from a different alternate universe that is now a member of an X-team.
Am I wrong?
I was not reading comics during house of M and I haven't read all of it, nor have I been keeping up with X-Factor, so please if you have a different thought please tell me.
Am I wrong?
I was not reading comics during house of M and I haven't read all of it, nor have I been keeping up with X-Factor, so please if you have a different thought please tell me.
02-19-13 | 08:33 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
So to be clear though an alternate version of the x-men exist in the Mojoverse and to also quote from the wiki...
Mojo claims that he and the beings who populate Mojo World are "unique" in the sense that unlike the rest of the Marvel Universe, Mojo World has no parallel counterpart; this was documented in Exiles #18-19
It is clearly differentiated as a different reality when the Exiles visit there (the wiki goes on to state mojo may be wrong since an ultimate version exists) but nonetheless those Exiles issues should also support that Mojoverse is NOT 616.
Mojo claims that he and the beings who populate Mojo World are "unique" in the sense that unlike the rest of the Marvel Universe, Mojo World has no parallel counterpart; this was documented in Exiles #18-19
It is clearly differentiated as a different reality when the Exiles visit there (the wiki goes on to state mojo may be wrong since an ultimate version exists) but nonetheless those Exiles issues should also support that Mojoverse is NOT 616.
02-19-13 | 08:36 PM
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Re: Comic/Super-Hero Sheep NOW!
okay, Im working on some rulings here, but I want to ask about Layla Miller. My understanding of her was that she was one thing in this time line and then in the alternate House of M timeline, she was different. Then when those timelines merged, the House of M Layla Miller replaced the Layla Miller we see now. If that is the case, then i would consider her a character from a different alternate universe that is now a member of an X-team.
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong?
http://www.comicvine.com/layla-miller/29-1447/
http://marvel.com/universe/Miller,_Layla
I didn't see anything in particular in there that indicates that the Layla Miller now in 616 is somehow different or from House of M. Does she still have the ability to perceive divergent realities, which seems to have been manifest only in the House of M universe?