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Old 02-11-10, 07:21 PM
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Marvel Comics' apology

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/201002...s/ynews_ts1129

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Since 1941, Captain America has been one of the most popular comic book characters around. The fictional super-patriot fought Nazis during World War II, took on those who burned the American flag during the Vietnam era, and raked in hundreds of millions of dollars for Marvel Comics along the way. Now, the appearance that he is taking on the Tea Party Movement in a storyline about investigating white supremacists has forced Marvel to apologize for the comic hero.

Issue 602 of the comic features Captain America investigating a right-wing anti-government militia group called "the Watchdogs". Hoping to infiltrate the group, Captain America and his African-American sidekick The Falcon observe an anti-tax protest from a rooftop. The protestors depicted are all white and carry signs adorned with slogans almost identical to those seen today in Tea Party rallies like "tea bag libs before they tea bag you" and "stop the socialists."
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/201002...s/ynews_ts1129

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Since 1941, Captain America has been one of the most popular comic book characters around. The fictional super-patriot fought Nazis during World War II, took on those who burned the American flag during the Vietnam era, and raked in hundreds of millions of dollars for Marvel Comics along the way. Now, the appearance that he is taking on the Tea Party Movement in a storyline about investigating white supremacists has forced Marvel to apologize for the comic hero.

Issue 602 of the comic features Captain America investigating a right-wing anti-government militia group called "the Watchdogs". Hoping to infiltrate the group, Captain America and his African-American sidekick The Falcon observe an anti-tax protest from a rooftop. The protestors depicted are all white and carry signs adorned with slogans almost identical to those seen today in Tea Party rallies like "tea bag libs before they tea bag you" and "stop the socialists."
Good ol' Marvel, I've always loved that they were pretty progressive politically with their character's political beliefs (Marvel did begin to gain huge ground in their bid to be at the top of the comics industry heap in around 1962, after all....and they grew all through the 60's and 70's).
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Old 02-11-10, 11:11 PM
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I was hoping this was a "we fired Quesada and plan to fix Spider-man" apology.
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Aren't they about to do that? I keep seeing ads in the recent comics showing Spidey reaching out to grab MJ (wearing a wedding dress) w/ some characters and strewn about in the background.
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Old 02-12-10, 12:28 AM
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Hehehe. They must be lovin' this. They probably can't keep that issue of Cap' on the stands.
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Yeah, this kind of thing makes proud to be a FOOM (Friend Of Ol' Marvel, for those aged comic fans amongst us, lol). Even though I no longer read new stuff (just can't stand the continuity problems), these characters will always be close to my heart.
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Yeah, this kind of thing makes proud to be a FOOM (Friend Of Ol' Marvel, for those aged comic fans amongst us, lol). Even though I no longer read new stuff (just can't stand the continuity problems), these characters will always be close to my heart.
I used to get the FOOM magazine
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I don't understand why people are proud of Marvel over this. Because they apologized, or because they included some modern day headlines in the comic?

While I like Bru's cap, I can see why the people complained about this, and Marvel's excuse (that they were at a deadline and pulled whatever signs they could from the internet) doesn't seem to ring true to me. Of course, I haven't read the issue, has anyone here?
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I don't understand why people are proud of Marvel over this. Because they apologized, or because they included some modern day headlines in the comic?

While I like Bru's cap, I can see why the people complained about this, and Marvel's excuse (that they were at a deadline and pulled whatever signs they could from the internet) doesn't seem to ring true to me. Of course, I haven't read the issue, has anyone here?
To answer, in order:

It's because they ran a story with negative depictions of right-wingers (yay! for that).

Marvel's excuse doesn't ring true to you because it wasn't sincere. It was simply an attention-getter for them to sell more copies of this book. Marvel is, primarily, a left-wing publisher (not too far left, but left nonetheless, thank goodness). They don't give two sh!ts about the Tea (Bag) Party, other than to display them as the (relatively minor, for now) threat they may become to the current administration.

No, I haven't read the entire issue, just a few of the main pages in question.
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Old 02-13-10, 12:58 AM
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I would feel the same way if they depicted anti-war protesters as terrorist sympathizers.
Generalizations and the subsequent cheerleading doesn't help any.
One more reason not to buy Marvel.
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What Marvel should have done was have Cap side with the Tea Baggers and the Falcon against them.
Fair & balanced .
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tea party =! right wing republican. tea party = independant conservative
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What Marvel should have done was have Cap side with the Tea Baggers and the Falcon against them.
Fair & balanced .
Marvel doesn't have to be fair and balanced and they wouldn't put Cap, who is a true symbol of Americana, with the bunch of racist nutjobs that make the Tea Party.
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Marvel doesn't have to be fair and balanced and they wouldn't put Cap, who is a true symbol of Americana, with the bunch of racist nutjobs that make the Tea Party.
Very true. All the way around.
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tea party =! right wing republican. tea party = independant conservative
I would add slightly misinformed slightly wacky independent conservative.
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Who cares? This is all about business. They say what they want, then apologize and get more publicity drumming up even more sales in the process. Lame. If they had any balls at all they wouldn't need to apologize.
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Marvel doesn't have to be fair and balanced and they wouldn't put Cap, who is a true symbol of Americana, with the bunch of racist nutjobs that make the Tea Party.
Yes. The race card. Quite eloquent.
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Old 02-13-10, 07:34 PM
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I would feel the same way if they depicted anti-war protesters as terrorist sympathizers.
Generalizations and the subsequent cheerleading doesn't help any.
One more reason not to buy Marvel.
Actually, they kinda already did that.

http://everydayislikewednesday.blogspot.com/

Page down to the post of February 11 talking about Marvel's Secret Invasion #6, which includes scenes of activists supporting Skrull-provided "change".
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Yes. The race card. Quite eloquent.

What?
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Not sure why they feel the need to apologize. The entertainment industry has been left-wing for as along as it's been around. Why is this anything different?
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Signs that the Teabaggers use? So they're misspelled badly, show no signs of actual grammar, and use thinly veiled racist slurs?

I'm not sure why Marvel is apologizing. It sounds like a good basis for a Cap story, really.
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What?
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Marvel doesn't have to be fair and balanced and they wouldn't put Cap, who is a true symbol of Americana, with the bunch of racist nutjobs that make the Tea Party.
Cap is for abortion, gay marriage and changing Christmas holiday to Winter Break too,right?
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Cap is for abortion, gay marriage and changing Christmas holiday to Winter Break too,right?
As much as any fictional frigging character can be.

And don't forget, Cap spent WW2 hanging around with an underage boy to whom he wasn't related, has been having premarital sex for the better part of a century, and keeps letting the bad guys go.
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Yes. The race card. Quite eloquent.
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When Tom Tancredo, an openly racist asshole, opens as a keynote speaker for the OFFICIAL Tea Party convention, talking about how the literacy test (a law during the segretation era to prevent blacks from voting) should be brought back, then I can see and say that the party endorses a racist, exclusive agenda.




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Cap is for abortion, gay marriage and changing Christmas holiday to Winter Break too,right?
Cap is for equal rights for all, including homosexuals. He is also a true believer in civil rights, so I don't doubt that he endorses pro-choice. As for the Christmas thing, that is just ridiculous.
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