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06-15-08 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ytrez
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I've got no idea what Morrison or DC is thinking with any of this. Did they even know they were doing the Death of the New Gods series when they were releasing 7 Soldiers?
I've got no idea what Morrison or DC is thinking with any of this. Did they even know they were doing the Death of the New Gods series when they were releasing 7 Soldiers?
GM: Again, bear in mind thatCountdown only finished last month so Final Crisis was already well underway long before Countdown and although I’ve tried to avoid contradicting much of the twists and turns of that book as I can with the current Final Crisis scripts, the truth is, we were too far down the road of our own book to reflect everything that went on in Countdown, hence the disconnects that online commentators, sadly, seem to find more fascinating than the stories themselves.
Orion’s appearance on the docks and the Guardians’ response in Final Crisis #1 was written and drawn first. Jim Starlin then created Orion’s death scene in Death Of The New Gods to lead into the War God’s appearance in Final Crisis #1, so we refer back to Jim’s scene in Final Crisis #3. When I wrote that scene, Orion’s terminal injuries were a result of the mysterious bolt of light which Jim hit him with in Death Of The New Gods #6. By the time Countdown #1 came out, I was working on Final Crisis #4 and #5 and JG was drawing #3, so we were already well into our own story and unable to change it to match Countdown.
Orion’s appearance on the docks and the Guardians’ response in Final Crisis #1 was written and drawn first. Jim Starlin then created Orion’s death scene in Death Of The New Gods to lead into the War God’s appearance in Final Crisis #1, so we refer back to Jim’s scene in Final Crisis #3. When I wrote that scene, Orion’s terminal injuries were a result of the mysterious bolt of light which Jim hit him with in Death Of The New Gods #6. By the time Countdown #1 came out, I was working on Final Crisis #4 and #5 and JG was drawing #3, so we were already well into our own story and unable to change it to match Countdown.
06-16-08 | 01:38 AM
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I don't get it. Isn't Countdown supposed to be, you know a countdown to Final Crisis? And you're telling me that they can't even bother to connect the two correctly? This isn't the case where Batman goes out with the Justice League while he's supposed to be trapped by the Joker or something... these are the big, money crossovers that DC is trying to milk, and they directly connect to each other. Isn't this what editors get paid to do?
edit: reading the article, it does seem like Morrison is planning things out well, especially in regards to connecting this with Seven Soldiers, it just boggles my mind that the DC editors, who knew the basic outline of what his story was going to be, introduced blatant continuity errors, and at least in once case, a blatant contradiction. Why do Death of the New Gods at all?
edit: reading the article, it does seem like Morrison is planning things out well, especially in regards to connecting this with Seven Soldiers, it just boggles my mind that the DC editors, who knew the basic outline of what his story was going to be, introduced blatant continuity errors, and at least in once case, a blatant contradiction. Why do Death of the New Gods at all?
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06-16-08 | 05:36 AM
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The Manhunter series is back 
06-17-08 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
Looks like we have the new series that just won't die for this century, taking over for Spider-girl.
Good. I like...no, LOVE... Manhunter. Let them kill some other series like the boring ass LEGION of Superheroes and leave Manhunter alone.
06-17-08 | 07:57 AM
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This kinda sucks. Gyakushu is heading for online sale. It'll be printed and sold as normal at some point, but not right away.
06-17-08 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Good. I like...no, LOVE... Manhunter. Let them kill some other series like the boring ass LEGION of Superheroes and leave Manhunter alone.
06-17-08 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonF
Hey! I LOVE the Legion!
no offense.
06-17-08 | 10:31 AM
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This kinda sucks. Gyakushu is heading for online sale. It'll be printed and sold as normal at some point, but not right away.
06-18-08 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bishop2knight
This kinda sucks. Gyakushu is heading for online sale. It'll be printed and sold as normal at some point, but not right away.
06-18-08 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
no offense.
06-18-08 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Good. I like...no, LOVE... Manhunter. Let them kill some other series like the boring ass LEGION of Superheroes and leave Manhunter alone.
Also, you know what's good? Top 10. Hard as hell to keep up with since every character has 5 names, but this is proving to be really rich.
06-18-08 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
Also, you know what's good? Top 10. Hard as hell to keep up with since every character has 5 names, but this is proving to be really rich.
06-18-08 | 07:08 PM
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Looks like this Adam Hughes artwork will be handed out at conventions for the rest of the year:
(And yes, in the final, Poison Ivy is tinted green).
(And yes, in the final, Poison Ivy is tinted green).
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06-18-08 | 08:43 PM
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Looks like this Adam Hughes artwork will be handed out at conventions for the rest of the year:
(And yes, in the final, Poison Ivy is tinted green).
(And yes, in the final, Poison Ivy is tinted green).
06-19-08 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
No, I'm just getting around to reading it for the first time.
06-19-08 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fujishig
I love the Legion too. Let's kill off Supergirl.
Ok, you're just messing with me aren't you.
06-19-08 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bronkster
I should dig my copies out and revisit that whole series. Ha's ability to add in such tiny intricate references to just about everything really made the book almost challenging (in a fun way).
I tell you, I love how the stories fold out in this book. Some cases take an issue to solve, some take 4, some take longer, which is really cool considering the six issue structure of most books these days. I also really dig how each scene bleeds into the next. We'll be focused on two characters, with another set of characters in the background, and the next panel will be about the background characters. It's pretty awesome.
06-19-08 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DGibFen
Looks like this Adam Hughes artwork will be handed out at conventions for the rest of the year:
I also enjoyed the story on how Selina worked her way into the picture...
06-20-08 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue588
I also enjoyed the story on how Selina worked her way into the picture...
06-20-08 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
It's pretty funny that she wasn't included in the first place. I mean in the grand scheme of things, who's a bigger female character than her, besides Wonder Woman?
Yeah and why did Hughes pick Batwoman? I mean seriously. Why not her girlfriend Renee "The New Question" Montoya instead. How about Lois Lane? She's a well known DC female. What about Huntress? I don't know, I guess I'm biased because I think bringing back Batwoman in "52" was stupid.
I do like how WW is the focal point of the piece...no pun intended
... and I like how she's taller than the rest. I would've left her barefoot just to show that she's still taller than the others. And although it would get some of you "comics are too sexy/sexist/Hetero" folks a reason to bitch...I would've put Ivy's hand on Harley's ass. Everyone knows they're on and off lovers anyway. Or did they retcon that during the crisis/52?
06-20-08 | 02:29 PM
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Oh, I totally forgot about Lois, since she's a "civilian". It probably goes Wonder Woman, Lois, and then Catwoman. It is strange that she's not on the piece (as well as Renee), but maybe it has something to do with upcoming story lines or something?
And maybe the hand-on-ass move might have been too much, but around the waist would have been cool. I really love how the Harley/Ivy "romance" has been handled in the books I've read (mainly the animated stuff). It's always implied, and never really feels like tacky fan service.
And maybe the hand-on-ass move might have been too much, but around the waist would have been cool. I really love how the Harley/Ivy "romance" has been handled in the books I've read (mainly the animated stuff). It's always implied, and never really feels like tacky fan service.