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Old 02-21-07 | 08:30 PM
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Yeah, I even said "Meh" when I read it at the LCS. I was reminded of that Indian chief shedding a tear when he saw people pollute/trash his former land.

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Old 02-21-07 | 11:29 PM
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So apparently I'm not the only one that feels like he got royally buggered by Marvel with the end of Civil War.

So who's the hero that's supposed to die for the "fallen son" storyline? Place your bets as to how long he'll actually stay dead.

I can't believe how many books I've been dropping. I feel like shit for doing it, though. Marvel / DC won't give a shit. The only person that will suffer is the owner of my local comic store.
Old 02-22-07 | 04:32 AM
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Why does anyone seem surprised about the outcome of Civil War? there was no way 1 issue was going to make up for all the crap that went on...
Old 02-22-07 | 04:50 AM
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ehhh, I HATE MARVEL!!! This has to be the worst comic of all time.
Old 02-22-07 | 05:57 AM
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Why does anyone seem surprised about the outcome of Civil War? there was no way 1 issue was going to make up for all the crap that went on...
Well, I think that we at least expected to find out more about the whole plot behind it, like Stark's motivations. Instead it looks like we'll get to see that dragged out into yet another crossover or two or three or four or five.
Old 02-22-07 | 07:21 AM
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Well, I think that we at least expected to find out more about the whole plot behind it, like Stark's motivations. Instead it looks like we'll get to see that dragged out into yet another crossover or two or three or four or five.
Yeah...Marvel and DC are really overdoing the whole crossover thing. I mean Infinite Crisis is STILL going on, and just like the original Crisis, the DCU will probably take years to reassemble itself. Right now it's incredibly fragmented. I don't know which unnecessary crossover was worse.

well, I guess this means i'll be spending more time with my Indy comics.
Old 02-22-07 | 07:51 AM
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Wow, what a complete load of crap. I am so pissed with the whole Civil War fiasco I am ready to quit comics. If my LCS thinks I am going to keep buying all the post CW garbage they are sorely mistaken. Marvel has really sunk to a new low this time....C'mon Marvel raise your prices one more time....I dare you to do it!
Old 02-22-07 | 08:25 AM
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I've not read a word of a Civil War comic but I did breeze through an article in Wizard magazine while waiting for my wife in Target and it raised some questions:

Isn't the whole premise of the story just the Mutant Registration Act all over again?

Captain America sides against the government because he embodies America's rebelious spirit? There was some quote from Millar how everyone was content with the king till the Americans rebelled. I always throught of Cap as a soldier. Tell him what to do and he does it. Give him orderes and off he goes to execute them.

Spider-Man sides with Iron Man on the pro-registration side. Reveals his identity in support of registration. Gets iron-spidey armor. Life goes to hell. Switches sides. Does any long term planning go into these story lines? I'm all for giving comics a kick in the pants but theres certain things you don't do.
Old 02-22-07 | 08:47 AM
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Well from the sound of things, I am certainly glad I jumped off before this Civil War mess began. Actually I guess I started dropping books around House of M...
Old 02-22-07 | 11:05 AM
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Worst. Ending. EVER.

Actually, it didn't even end - it may as well have been issue #7 out of a 12-issue series. You don't end a mini-series with a fucking unresolved ending - sure "The Civil War" might be over, but there was no real resolution. I feel like a sucker.

Nice art though...
Old 02-22-07 | 11:21 AM
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Did anyone die?
Old 02-22-07 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by slop101
Worst. Ending. EVER.

Actually, it didn't even end - it may as well have been issue #7 out of a 12-issue series. You don't end a mini-series with a fucking unresolved ending - sure "The Civil War" might be over, but there was no real resolution. I feel like a sucker.

Nice art though...
As someone who was trying hard to give the whole thing the benefit of the doubt, and even kinda enjoyed the ride, I agree that the ending here was a major pile of crap. As a result, I will not be falling into the new Initiative spin-offs and have no plans on getting involved with any of the new Avengers series. This really left a bad taste in my mouth.
Old 02-22-07 | 02:55 PM
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Did anyone die?
If you count Captain America's balls, and my interest in Marvel now, save for The Punisher MAX and Black Costume Spidey...
Old 02-22-07 | 03:25 PM
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Don't forget Robot-Thor - he got his face bashed in good - that was a nice one-page panel, which goes to show that this was more about the art and "cool action" than anything else, like story or character.
Old 02-22-07 | 04:01 PM
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Can someone post spoilers (or links to spoilers)?
Old 02-22-07 | 06:53 PM
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Can someone post spoilers (or links to spoilers)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel:_Civil_War
Old 02-22-07 | 07:27 PM
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Spoiler:
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Also Captain America was arrested! Thats the part that pisses me off most. It just seems like the villians (Iron Man) won. And a miltary police state? Just what I want to read in Super hero comics. Hulk, please come smash...



Old 02-23-07 | 02:06 AM
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Well from the sound of things, I am certainly glad I jumped off before this Civil War mess began. Actually I guess I started dropping books around House of M...
I started dropping Marvel books around Planet X/Avengers Disassembled.

Planet X because of the great, titanic storyline that wasn't reflected in any other book. Not even in the X-books.

Avengers Disassembled because it was such a localized Avengers story that somehow found it's way into every single Marvel book for months.
Old 02-23-07 | 07:10 AM
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So is World War Hulk going to save the Marvel Universe and put it all back together again? I mean, this post-CW can't stay long, right? Maybe the heroes will band together to defeat Hulk, which will put everything back to normal.
Old 02-23-07 | 07:38 AM
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So is World War Hulk going to save the Marvel Universe and put it all back together again? I mean, this post-CW can't stay long, right? Maybe the heroes will band together to defeat Hulk, which will put everything back to normal.
Civil War will be running "Fallen Son" while Planet Hulk is starting up. Supposedly one of "Marvel's greatest" heroes will die, and that will cause everyone to start re-examining what they've been doing.

Of course we all know that whomever this "greatest hero" is, he'll be back and running around in a year at most.
Old 02-23-07 | 12:18 PM
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If you count Captain America's balls, and my interest in Marvel now, save for The Punisher MAX and Black Costume Spidey...


I got to the end of CW#7 and had to check the cover again and make sure I wasn't reading a badly written copy of "What if?" (as in "What if Civil War had a really shitty ending?")
Old 02-23-07 | 03:43 PM
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Hulk, please come smash...
A-fuckin'-men.

What a steaming pile of shit this was. The only saving grace was McNiven's art work.
Old 02-23-07 | 04:13 PM
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Well heres whats up next. Jesus. 4 mini's, Hulks own title, two 1 shots; 35 issues total
Old 02-23-07 | 05:06 PM
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If I buy any of those (a BIG "if"), they'll be the first Hulk books I've bought in about 10 years (not counting Slott's She Hulk, which is excelent).
Old 02-23-07 | 05:49 PM
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I was extremely underwhelmed with the Civil War mini as a whole. It started out well with the first 2 issues, then basically became The Ultimates. I can't think of a single plot twist that actually surprised me, not even the ending. As soon as I saw everyone fighting in NY and basically wrecking everything in sight, I had the ending figured out.

After finishing this mini, I realize why I have dropped so many Marvel titles over the past 2 years to the point where I read only 2 of their monthly titles now - Astonishing X-Men and Captain America. I'm tired of the constant delays, and the subpar plots, and the big crossover events where you have to buy 30+ issues just to get the whole story. I do not plan to read World War Hulk now basically for that reason. I enjoyed Planet Hulk overall, but I'm incredibly tired of the constant crossover events that Marvel has had going for, what, 4 years now?

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