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Old 10-24-05 | 08:12 AM
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It wasn't about is he justified in doing this, it's that he does it without (a) discussing if he's the right one to do it and (b) telling anyone else that he's doing it. In a sense, Batman is like Maxwell Lord. His arrogance leads him to believe that he, and he alone, is capable of taking care of this so-called problem. Well, two times now he's been proven wrong, and the heroes have suffered and even died because of his arrogance.

ok, fair enough. But hasn't it been mentioned that Superman asked Bruce/Bats to keep some Kryptonite "just in case"? Maybe Bats is the right one. Mind you, it wasn't Bats who took the info and used it against the Heroes.
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Old 10-24-05 | 01:53 PM
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ok, fair enough. But hasn't it been mentioned that Superman asked Bruce/Bats to keep some Kryptonite "just in case"? Maybe Bats is the right one. Mind you, it wasn't Bats who took the info and used it against the Heroes.
The kryptonite thing is different. That was a personal thing between them, with Clark saying "I trust your judgement as to whether or not it would be necessary to use this." This is a case of Bats saying that he's capable of storing information on how to defeat other heroes, information which we have seen can easily be stolen (3 times now that I know of). If he can't safeguard the info, then all he's doing is putting others at risk.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of there being a failsafe if someone needed to be taken down... I just think that any rational person would not feel comfortable with information on how to kill them being in the hands of a paranoid that can't keep it secure.
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Old 10-24-05 | 11:12 PM
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I love the character, but the one thing that annoys me is how the other DC heroes allow him to get away with this shit. They find out he's keeping secret files on them, those files get in the hands of Ra's al-Ghul, and the league is nearly killed because of it. They find out he's kept a spy satellite system to watch them, Checkmate takes control of it, many heroes are killed.

What do they do? They shrug their shoulders and say "ah, it's just what Batman does."
Ok, but here's my question - where was it ever stated that Batman was the one who collected the information (that is currently being put to use by the OMAC's on the other heroes) this time out?

As a far as we know, Maxwell Lord just hi-jacked his satellite. But who says that Bats was storing any info there? Max could have easily aquired that info himself, given his connections with the JLA and Checkmate. And, it's not as if the DEO hasn't been keeping files on everyone in the DC universe, too. Info that could also very easily have been co-opted by Max.

I think that just because we've seen Batman do this type of thing before (i.e. "Tower Of Babel") - that many are assuming Bats is to blame for intel on the superhuman community being stolen - when it might not have been his intel at all.

From the way I read it, Max pretty much screwed everyone in getting the OMAC project up and going. Yeah, Bats is partially to blame - but I wouldn't throw all the burden of it on him.
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Old 10-28-05 | 07:05 AM
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What's everyone's thoughts on Stephen King writing a prequel to the Dark Tower for Marvel? I'm in to it. Think of all the additional readers comic books can bring in if this is done right. If some other publishers market their books right when the first King book hits, we could see a mini-boom in comic sales.
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Old 10-28-05 | 07:55 AM
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What's everyone's thoughts on Stephen King writing a prequel to the Dark Tower for Marvel? I'm in to it. Think of all the additional readers comic books can bring in if this is done right. If some other publishers market their books right when the first King book hits, we could see a mini-boom in comic sales.

I think it's fantastic. I've actually never read any King before, but his name alone will bring some attention to comics which makes me happy. I was all set to read the Dark Tower series but chickened out because...them's be a lot of books (for how I read) yo. I would imagine there would be a small overlap of fans of King/Horror and fans of comics, but his books should bring a bunch of new people into shops and hopefully the shop owners and workers will introduce those new to comics to other works to create new life long fans. All in all a very good thing. If nothing else you know it will be talked about in Entertainment Weekly.

Let's just hope the damn book is good to keep these people coming back and get them curious about other books.
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Old 10-28-05 | 08:19 AM
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Did Wonder Woman #222 come out this week? It wasn't in my Weekly stack.
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Old 10-28-05 | 08:20 AM
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Ok, but here's my question - where was it ever stated that Batman was the one who collected the information (that is currently being put to use by the OMAC's on the other heroes) this time out?

As a far as we know, Maxwell Lord just hi-jacked his satellite. But who says that Bats was storing any info there? Max could have easily aquired that info himself, given his connections with the JLA and Checkmate. And, it's not as if the DEO hasn't been keeping files on everyone in the DC universe, too. Info that could also very easily have been co-opted by Max.

I think that just because we've seen Batman do this type of thing before (i.e. "Tower Of Babel") - that many are assuming Bats is to blame for intel on the superhuman community being stolen - when it might not have been his intel at all.

From the way I read it, Max pretty much screwed everyone in getting the OMAC project up and going. Yeah, Bats is partially to blame - but I wouldn't throw all the burden of it on him.
I think you're splitting hairs. The main point is that once again Bats took it upon himself to be the watchdog of the superhero community, and once again his method of keeping track, be it information or spy satellites, was corrupted by the bad guys and lead to not only problems for superheroes, but death. I'd especially throw all the burden on him this time because he didn't learn from the last experience.
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Old 10-28-05 | 08:23 AM
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Did Wonder Woman #222 come out this week? It wasn't in my Weekly stack.
I received it in my DCBS shipment yesterday.
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Old 10-28-05 | 08:38 AM
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Wonder Woman 222 was decent, but it felt...empty. Almost like filler before the big events coming up.

Anyone read Loveless #1? I thought it was great.
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Old 10-29-05 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Chew
I received it in my DCBS shipment yesterday.

Ok thanks.
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Old 10-31-05 | 06:20 AM
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Wonder Woman 222 was decent, but it felt...empty. Almost like filler before the big events coming up.
I have a feeling it's the kind of filler that won't look that way once events really get going.
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Old 11-03-05 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by James W. Powell
Wonder Woman 222 was decent, but it felt...empty. Almost like filler before the big events coming up.

Anyone read Loveless #1? I thought it was great.
I liked WW 222. I liked hearing Cheetah's thoughts on WW and seeing that WW is a character with a strong sense of Honor and Duty.
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