So anyone want to explain how Kilowog got resurrected? I'm sure it's a convoluted mess, but still...

So when is someone going to bring Barry Allen back for good? What's amazing to me is that Hal's previous Green Lantern books, before he became Parallax, was dying on the shelf (I think I was one of the only ones reading those Broderick issues). Now after a decade off, he's one of the hottest properties ever?

Well, it's like the push to get rid of the silver age heros in the mid 90's to shake things up. batman with a broken back, superman's death, Green Arrow's death. The new wave of heros that followed them didn't really turn out all that well. Kyle's last books as Green Lantern really weren't selling well either. So like they did with Hal, shake things up by bringing in the new guy.. in this case it's Hal and the way Johns writes him, it's pretty good in a team up.

as for Kilowog. I'm thinking that it was Kyle and Ganthet brought him back sometime during his run. Pretty much as simple as that.

They didn't really explain how Kilowog was ressurected. He just showed up in issue 2 I think. I think Ganthet brought him back to life.

Yes, it's interesting how poor sales of Hal's book led to the creation of Kyle and now poor sales of Kyle's book have led to the return of Hal. Hal was always a mediocre character anyway. I mean DC's Silver Age wasn't really that great compared to Marvel's. He wasn't a picture-perfect billionare but the Top Gun playboy image really doesn't work for me. Also, under John's guidance, we can expect a healthy number of "Batman being paranoid as hell and mistrusting Hal at every turn" stories. I'm really tired of those, right up there with "Superman the Jock", "Wonder Woman on PMS", and "J'onn the Traitor" storylines.

Kyle to me was always the better character because of the Spider-man complex. It was also a much better comic than Spider-man is now. Speaking of which...

...Anyone else really think that the Spider-man monthlies should end? Peter Parker was good under Jenkins, but Spectacular sucked as did MK SM. Amazing has been utter crap for the past 5 years under JMS. There was only one good issue out of that whole mess - the one where Petey comes out to Aunt May. Other than that most of the storylines were blatant regurtitations of past storylines. I know I know everything is derivative of something else, but in this case they were all storylines that had already been beaten to death in SM comics.

Spider-man meets a mysterious stranger who can perfectly emulate his powers in a shocking manner that turns his world upside down while a malevolent force begins to stalk him without end. Soon Peter begins to question his origins and the very nature of his existence. Are you sure you weren't reading...



Spider-man's past quickly begins to catch up with him as a being who can more than match his powers and nullify his spider-sense. The real drama begins when the villain encroaches upon Peter's personal life with their intimate knowledge of him and a dual identity that is impervious to the authorities. Maybe you have the villain confused with...



Spider-man takes residence with a super-team that provides all the amenities that his modern everyday joe life does not provide. While bunking with them, sexual tensions develop between Mary Jane and a member of the team, as well as Peter. Peter soon finds he is in over his head cavorting around with beings who operate on a much larger level than himself. Is it that easy to confuse the superteam assembled with...

So is the greatest GL of them all, Ch'p, resurrected as well?

I dunno, I enjoyed MK SM for the art, as well as the throw-every-villain-in-Spiderman's-gallery at him aspect of it. Not great by any means, but decent enough. Other than that, I haven't followed spidey since JRjr first came on to the Spiderman book (while Ringo was still doing one of them). The whole offspring of Gwen Stacy thing seemed pretty silly, though.

About Hal, it's just odd that they resisted bringing him back for so, so long, despite fan protests and whatnot. And now they bring him back? Well, I guess Supergirl's finally been resurrected (sort of, I'm still a little confused on that issue, though I think everyone else was just distracted by Turner's art), so when's Barry coming back? And Jason Todd (oh wait, he kinda did come back too).

So is there a green lantern corps now? Are there guardians, or just Ganthet? Sorry for all the questions, I know I should just read the book... and thanks for those that posted synopses (though it seems like it was mostly suffering through the stories than enjoying them...)

So far, Kilowog is the only one to inexplicably return. I remember the Ringo days. Stellar art but supremely crappy storylines. I guess any story named "Identity Crisis" is destined to suck.

Supergirl's back, but until we crack Kryptonian or the new series gets some new ground on the character, it doesn't look like we're going to have any hard facts. It's another PC Supergirl with a confusing origin who is drowning in her own naivete. For the third time.

The whole Jason Todd debacle is only exacerbated by recent Batman stories.

I forgot to mention that...when Kyle gave up the power of Ion, OA was restored, the Power Battery was reignited, and the Guardians were brought back to life - though as babies. It seems that as little time has passed since we've come to Rebirth, they've aged quite a bit.

And that's me. I've read comics off and on since the early 80's but it wasn't until the late early to mid 90's that I started getting into them seriously.

There is going to be a corps mini-series coming out in the fall called Green Lantern Corps: Recharge and re-establish the Corps to its rightful place in the DC world with Dave Gibbons (Watchmen) & Patrick Gleason (Aquaman) pencilling it & if the series sells well I think DC already has a monthly planned.

Actually, the Hardcover of that Supergirl sup/bat arc has the Kryptonian key. So you can actually read what was written in Kryptonian in the book.


It's actually not really all that confusing. I mean Hal never really left. Can you honestly say that in those 10 years, Hal wasn't in some aspect or another around in the DCU? either wrecking shit up in Zero Hour or talking to secret in Young Justice as the spectre. the reason why they didn't bother bringing hal back as Green Lantern was because of the writers and because Hal was already around as the spectre and in his other forms. Johns, being up on the plate and loving his silver aged characters was offered to bring him back and he took it. Not that confusing if you ask me.

Don't sugarcoat it for us man!! Tell us how you really feel!!!!!

Take care all!!

In brightest day
in darkest night
No evil shall escape my sight
Let those who worship evil's might
Beware my power, Green Lantern's light

Can anyone tell me what issue of Fantastic Four MJS started on?

Can someone please explain the recent Jason Todd stuff to me. I don't read Winick, and I'm curious about how they tried to pull this off.

They haven't explained anything yet. But it's clear from Hush, that this has been in the works for a while.


As it stands right now, Jason todd is back. Batman is trying to figure out what other ways can someone come back. Jason's bones were missing in Hush. Jason's laying down justice the hard way.

Oddly enough, look over to marvel and you'll see the exact same storyline going on in Captain america.

Jason's body has been missing since Hush even after the Clayface revelation. So far it has nothing to do with Ra's and the lazarus pits.

It's funny how often Marvel and DC go head to head like that. I hate it.

Robin is alive in Captain America?

I really wish I could call the Batman story crap, but Judd is doing a really good job on the it. It's like it makes no sense, but it's so fun IMHO (and that's the point of reading these books in the first place) that I don't care.

Giantrobo, being a DC guy, what are you looking forward to more? The new crisis stuff or the fantastic mind**** of a story that is Cadmus over on the JLU cartoon? That is assuming you've been keeping up with the Canadian episodes and not the Cartoon Network ones.

That first statement pretty much sums up my feelings on all of Winick's writing.

JLU has only recently picked up the pace. JL was never that great to begin with and JLU just seemed gimmicky from the get-go. Does anyone know if the series will continue after this season?

Do you mean JMS? #527

Holy crap! I read WE3 last night and my god was I blown away or what? If you haven't read this mini, go out and get it now in the collected version. The story and art are very powerful, and the use of these cute little pets actually amplifies the effect. Great stuff.

(P.S. I have a review up at bookshelfcomics.com)

Seaguy was also funny as hell.

Well since I don't have cable at home and the JLU doesn't come on when I'm watching TV at work I guess the Crisis stuff. I've caught JLU here and there though. Anyway, to be honest I HATE having to buy titles i'm not interested in as they crossover and or tie in so I miss some pick up others.

I totally disagree with you. JL was great and JLU is awesome. I've always said that DC cartoons should have more guest heroes especially the obscure ones. JLU is a dream come true.

Oh, that's not even the worst part! the worst part is when you're TRYING to read the entire story and you can't find that one part that took place in a comic that was massively underprinted compared to others! THAT SUCKS!

I've been meaning to pick that one up. I've heard it's good, but to be honest, I'm always a little hesitant about funny comics. They don't usually do it for me. But Seaguy...that might be the ticket.

Yeah, they have another season at least. JLU did seem to be a bit gimmicky in the early eps, but they've quickly jumped to near Gargoyle-esque continuity and grown up story telling (I know anime does this kind of stuff all the time, but going on an American cartoon scale they're doing really deep stuff). I've been blown away by this latest arc. It seems like Timm and Co are using the various DC characters to tell the stories now, where as when the show started it seemed like they picked the characters first and then worked the stories around them.

Also JL kicked arse! Though season one was a bit rocky.

I've been meaning to read WE3, don't know what I've been waiting for.

And has any one read either of the Flight GN's?