What are you reading? (January 2010)
01-06-10 | 09:20 AM
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Re: What are you reading? (January 2010)
I really enjoyed the Agassi autobiography, but most of the juicy bits have already been discussed in the media. Next up is a book that I bought awhile ago that I keep delaying in starting, probably because of the subject matter:
01-07-10 | 07:08 AM
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Re: What are you reading? (January 2010)
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My first but not last book written by Christopher Moore. Very entertaining vampire comedy.
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My first but not last book written by Christopher Moore. Very entertaining vampire comedy.
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01-07-10 | 03:05 PM
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01-08-10 | 09:24 AM
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Re: What are you reading? (January 2010)
Unless you are an expert on the story be prepared to be surprised by how LITTLE you knew about it and how dead wrong the media has been to this day
01-08-10 | 11:53 AM
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I am about 1/3 to 1/2 through, and already am very surprised about some of the things that I've read, and I am sure there is more to come.
01-08-10 | 12:14 PM
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01-08-10 | 12:43 PM
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Re: What are you reading? (January 2010)
Could someone maybe give a few interesting bits from the Columbine book? At this point I can't even remember what the media thought about the situation (I was 12 or 13).
01-08-10 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Columbine
Basically, the media said that it was a rampage of goth loners (in particular "The Trenchcoat Mafia" or "TCM") who went on a rampage against the jocks who had been bullying them. None of that is true. While they did have dusters on (or trenchcoats), they weren't members of a group known as TCM (which had really "disbanded" the previous year, and didn't give themselves that name), and they had no targets in mind, they just wanted to kill as many people as possible (they had a number of explosives that were supposed to go off and had positioned themselves in such a way that after the explosions they would be able to shoot anyone running from the school). They hadn't been bullied, and were not loners or goths. There is more stuff, and as I said before I am only about halfway through, but the book is definitely an eye opener. Maybe Tommy Ceez or 12thmonkey can add some other things that I've neglected.
The thing that I find especially chilling is the warning signs from a year or two before hand that the cops not only didn't follow up on, but actually hid once the shootings happened, trying to cover their own asses. So far, a fantastic read and I can see why it was on many top 10 lists of 2009.
Basically, the media said that it was a rampage of goth loners (in particular "The Trenchcoat Mafia" or "TCM") who went on a rampage against the jocks who had been bullying them. None of that is true. While they did have dusters on (or trenchcoats), they weren't members of a group known as TCM (which had really "disbanded" the previous year, and didn't give themselves that name), and they had no targets in mind, they just wanted to kill as many people as possible (they had a number of explosives that were supposed to go off and had positioned themselves in such a way that after the explosions they would be able to shoot anyone running from the school). They hadn't been bullied, and were not loners or goths. There is more stuff, and as I said before I am only about halfway through, but the book is definitely an eye opener. Maybe Tommy Ceez or 12thmonkey can add some other things that I've neglected.
The thing that I find especially chilling is the warning signs from a year or two before hand that the cops not only didn't follow up on, but actually hid once the shootings happened, trying to cover their own asses. So far, a fantastic read and I can see why it was on many top 10 lists of 2009.
01-08-10 | 02:42 PM
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Re: What are you reading? (January 2010)
Re: Columbine
Basically, the media said that it was a rampage of goth loners (in particular "The Trenchcoat Mafia" or "TCM") who went on a rampage against the jocks who had been bullying them. None of that is true. While they did have dusters on (or trenchcoats), they weren't members of a group known as TCM (which had really "disbanded" the previous year, and didn't give themselves that name), and they had no targets in mind, they just wanted to kill as many people as possible (they had a number of explosives that were supposed to go off and had positioned themselves in such a way that after the explosions they would be able to shoot anyone running from the school). They hadn't been bullied, and were not loners or goths. There is more stuff, and as I said before I am only about halfway through, but the book is definitely an eye opener. Maybe Tommy Ceez or 12thmonkey can add some other things that I've neglected.
The thing that I find especially chilling is the warning signs from a year or two before hand that the cops not only didn't follow up on, but actually hid once the shootings happened, trying to cover their own asses.
Basically, the media said that it was a rampage of goth loners (in particular "The Trenchcoat Mafia" or "TCM") who went on a rampage against the jocks who had been bullying them. None of that is true. While they did have dusters on (or trenchcoats), they weren't members of a group known as TCM (which had really "disbanded" the previous year, and didn't give themselves that name), and they had no targets in mind, they just wanted to kill as many people as possible (they had a number of explosives that were supposed to go off and had positioned themselves in such a way that after the explosions they would be able to shoot anyone running from the school). They hadn't been bullied, and were not loners or goths. There is more stuff, and as I said before I am only about halfway through, but the book is definitely an eye opener. Maybe Tommy Ceez or 12thmonkey can add some other things that I've neglected.
The thing that I find especially chilling is the warning signs from a year or two before hand that the cops not only didn't follow up on, but actually hid once the shootings happened, trying to cover their own asses.
Cullen at length also addresses the whole "alleged Christian martyr Cassie Bernall" element which - as tragic and sickening as the murder of an innocent high school girl was - morphed and snowballed into something it apparently wasn't (according to Cullen). While I have nothing but compassion and sympathy for Bernall's family it seems the media and religious organizations were there simply to turn a murdered girl into an icon.
The book is a tough, emotional read. Cullen's account of "the boy in the window" Patrick Ireland is particularly gutwrenching, and if you watch the TV news video of his fall/escape/rescue after reading the book I doubt you will be unmoved.
Easily one of the best (it feels wrong using that word when speaking of Columbine events) books I've read in a long while.
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