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Old 07-19-17, 04:38 PM   #101
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Just to be clear -- it's not that the coupon didn't work, they just didn't/wouldn't scan it?

So far I've not run into any of those clerks/stores though you aren't the first to report that policy. To date I've not heard of that coupon not scanning as active. I'm assuming you don't have an alternative store to go to
Correct. The clerk would not even look at the coupon, let alone try to scan it. I was confident the coupon would and still will scan. But, she wasn't having any of it. She said that the store got a memo not to accept any coupons on top of Membership discounts and 50% sale price, period. I didn't want to argue. Her body language suggested that despite her smile, she had zero patience for another coupon-holder trying to get an extra deal on top of the existing deal.

There are 3 BN stores in my area that sell movies. Two of them stopped accepting coupons during the Criterion sale one or two sales ago. This was the last holdout that still accepted coupons. Based on my interaction with the clerk, it sounds like that store is done with coupons moving forward. I explained that there is no exclusion for Criterion titles in the coupon language. She wouldn't even look at it or consider what I was saying. Her word was final.

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Old 07-19-17, 05:02 PM   #102
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I'll definitely try to use the mailed out and one-time use coupons, but decided a couple years ago that those new membersh´p coupons broke my moral code. If I get a new membership and get those coupons, I'd use them once; but using multiple ones, or even one on an old membership, is skirting the clear implication of the coupons.
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Old 07-19-17, 05:22 PM   #103
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I've reported stores refusing to scan any coupons for Criterions during this sale many times before this current run. They act like I'm taking money personally out of their pocket by trying to use a coupon. And no, I don't have another B&N that sells movies (many around here don't) close enough to be considered a viable alternative. And even then, I drive all they way there only to be possibly be refused by them as well? No thanks.
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Old 07-19-17, 07:51 PM   #104
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This is anecdotal evidence but I see much less traffic in the media section now that Barnes blocked coupons during the Criterion sale. The place would always be very busy during the Criterion sale but once they started heavily enforcing no coupons, the section remains dead as it now usually does outside of the Christmas shopping season.
I'll add some anecdotal evidence of my local B&N's media section. I don't know exactly when, but a few months ago they stopped having cashiers permanently stationed in the media section. In past Criterion sales when I placed a Store Pick-up, the DVD/BD was held behind the Media counter. When I went to pick up BEING THERE the other night I was told apologetically by a long-time media employee that they were holding my Blu-ray up front & I'd have to purchase it there. She didn't seem like she was enjoying her job nearly as much as she did the previous 5 years I stopped in for Criterion sales.

The local media clerks almost always found a way to make coupons work in the past, but these film-savvy employees are no longer the ones handling the cash register.

My 20% Member coupons didn't work on Criterions, so I only bought that one film for $17.99. No blind or impulse buys.

I miss those film-savvy media clerks! There was so much down time between customers that they were grateful to chat with us lone browsers, and grateful when us lone browsers ended up purchasing something! Coupon or no coupon!

I can only presume this is part of B&N's downsizing. Nowadays there's rarely a Media clerk present unless they're flitting in & out to restock shelves.

I've always avoided the "B&M stores will be closing" intuition, but the vibe was so totally different this time around. I don't think they even bother trying to sell memberships anymore. I mean, the current "perks" are a damned hard sell for $25.

Corporate's blowing it for some of the cooler people who work there.
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Old 07-19-17, 08:11 PM   #105
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...or it's just a part of the decline of physical media sales happening everywhere.
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Old 07-19-17, 10:39 PM   #106
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My 20% Member coupons didn't work on Criterions, so I only bought that one film for $17.99. No blind or impulse buys.
Thanks for saving me a trip. Was planning to head out tonight to get 'The Lodger' and 'Heart of a Dog' with my member 20% off coupons. And yes, the store near me no longer has a clerk to check out in the Media dept.
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Old 07-20-17, 01:05 AM   #107
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I'll add some anecdotal evidence of my local B&N's media section. I don't know exactly when, but a few months ago they stopped having cashiers permanently stationed in the media section. In past Criterion sales when I placed a Store Pick-up, the DVD/BD was held behind the Media counter. When I went to pick up BEING THERE the other night I was told apologetically by a long-time media employee that they were holding my Blu-ray up front & I'd have to purchase it there.

I can only presume this is part of B&N's downsizing. Nowadays there's rarely a Media clerk present unless they're flitting in & out to restock shelves.

I've always avoided the "B&M stores will be closing" intuition, but the vibe was so totally different this time around.
This is now the exact situation at my local store as well.
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Old 07-20-17, 12:48 PM   #108
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...or it's just a part of the decline of physical media sales happening everywhere.
This accompanied by their need to charge full retail for all their media is why that department is usually devoid of customers at my local store.
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Old 07-20-17, 02:19 PM   #109
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When is the last day of the sale estimated to be?
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Old 07-20-17, 02:37 PM   #110
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August 7th.
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Old 07-20-17, 09:53 PM   #111
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Well, I went in yesterday and they had just put out 5 or 6 copies of Stalker. I took one up to the front to check out and realized I left my wallet at home! Went home and had a message on the machine from the same store. My reserved copy of Mullhulland Dr. was finally in! Went right back up and got both.

I picked three more up today so I'm around 40 total for this sale so far. I'm pretty upset with one thing though. Since they closed the media registers in the back they had to put the larger sets out on the shelf instead of behind the counter. What did they do. Spider security wraps, which destroyed the packaging on every single title.
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Old 07-20-17, 09:54 PM   #112
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This accompanied by their need to charge full retail for all their media is why that department is usually devoid of customers at my local store.
The media section at my local store was never successful because of their pricing. Now my local Best Buy sells out of almost everything every Tuesday it seems.
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Old 07-21-17, 04:46 PM   #113
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All right I've done my dash for this year

Before Trilogy
Speedy (Harold Lloyd)
Night of the Hunter
Kiss Me Deadly
The Red Shoes
Dazed and Confused
Slacker
Ghost World
The Lodger
Scanners

Been meaning to pick some of these up for ages....
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Old 07-23-17, 04:03 AM   #114
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I went to return a couple of things the other day and was shocked at how much they downsized the BD/DVD sections.

DVD's are now mixed in with the BD's and generally a mess to get through.
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Old 07-26-17, 08:36 PM   #115
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And, I'm finished...probably:

Eraserhead
Straw Dogs
Ghost World
Life Aquatic
Being There
Blow Up
Time Bandits
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Old 07-27-17, 05:47 PM   #116
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Went in for Round 2 today:

In Cold Blood (1967)
Dekalog (1989)
Blow Out (1981)

Still looking for a few films but I'll probably order them online unless I happen to be by another B&N store.
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Old 07-27-17, 10:47 PM   #117
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Got my order today.

Completely the wrong blu-rays.



Fucking idiots.

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Old 07-28-17, 01:48 AM   #118
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I don't agree with that anymore. Long gone are the days of LD and Pan&Scan DVD. This sale brings these titles down to around where they should be in the first place. Even virtually Mom&Pop labels like Code Red/Vinegar Syndrome/Scorpion amongst others are doing HD scans and extra packed editions for less than Criterion. They even cheap out often when it comes to putting the extras on a bonus disc to maximize audio/video bit rate. Criterion uses this sale twice a year to move product that sits on the shelf collecting dust. The word I heard is that Criterion instructed BN about no more coupons being allowed.

As for the clerks, I agree. I don't see the point in giving them a hard time for what the company decides to tell them to do. Like I said earlier, your best bet for the coupons is try to go in when a college kid is working as that is where I have had the most luck in the past.
Agree,Criterion may put out some nice product.But no way are they worth $40 to most media buyers.They are over priced if [email protected] and Criterion.com both have A half off sale twice A year.And it kind of sucks not having A [email protected] close to my house.

I do own quiet A few Criterion's,but I hardly buy any more these days.
Limit funds.I have A bunch I still need to watch.I had three disc go bad.Sure they replaced them,but A gc to cover the shipping would have been nice.

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Woman of the Year and Two Lane Blacktop for $18 each.
Nothing from [email protected] this time.Plan to buy Ghost World down the road.
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Old 07-28-17, 02:14 AM   #119
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Agree,Criterion may put out some nice product.But no way are they worth $40 to most media buyers..
i.e. MSRP isn't worth paying for any (insert Studio/Distributor) -- Warner, Disney, Shout, Olive, Criterion, WAC, Arrow etc. Twilight Time sort of got away with it until 2 years ago when even they realized teh price structure was going to be different going forward.

Reality-- almost nobody (paying attention and with any sense) ever pays close to MSRP for any item so saying $39.99/49.99/69.99 is a pretty useless statement. I would bet the vast majority of Criterions are sold at 40+% off so for all intent Criterions are $24 with occasional sales.

Every Criterion buyer knows what sales happen and rarely pay more than $25 for it at any time of the year -- Amazon, Deep Discount, Costco, etc almost always have some for sale for that or far less. Criterion.com standard price is $32 though eventually even that is 10% less so 27-28 overall. I would love to know the number of Criterions bought during the 2 sales vs the rest of the year though Criterion.com. I don't know BN numbers, but I'd be shocked if it's not north of 90-95% happen during the 50% sale (in previous years I would include the 40% sales except this June the Criterions were excluded)/

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Old 07-28-17, 05:05 AM   #120
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When was the first 50% off sale? Back in 2008 or 2009, I bought my first few Criterions at the Virgin Megastore.

Probably at MSRP price, or maybe like at $30.
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Old 07-28-17, 10:27 AM   #121
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First I have record of was July 2009. Criterion released their first Bluray on Dec 16 2008 (Man Who fell to Earth, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Bottle Rocket) so by July there were only 14. My first sale was in November that year and I think there were 25 by the end of Nov.

I've looked to see if there were comparable DVD only sales at BN earlier and I can't find any evidence that it happened other than a few titles at a time.

It appears Deep Discount has several 40 and 45% off sale as early as 2005 or 2006 (before the dark days), but looking at the old threads there wasn't a pattern and most of the posters seemd more interested in Eclipse Sets than the singles.
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Got my order today.

Completely the wrong blu-rays.



Fucking idiots.
You probably got someone else's order
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Old 07-28-17, 12:40 PM   #123
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i.e. MSRP isn't worth paying for any (insert Studio/Distributor) -- Warner, Disney, Shout, Olive, Criterion, WAC, Arrow etc. Twilight Time sort of got away with it until 2 years ago when even they realized teh price structure was going to be different going forward.

Reality-- almost nobody (paying attention and with any sense) ever pays close to MSRP for any item so saying $39.99/49.99/69.99 is a pretty useless statement. I would bet the vast majority of Criterions are sold at 40+% off so for all intent Criterions are $24 with occasional sales.

Every Criterion buyer knows what sales happen and rarely pay more than $25 for it at any time of the year -- Amazon, Deep Discount, Costco, etc almost always have some for sale for that or far less. Criterion.com standard price is $32 though eventually even that is 10% less so 27-28 overall. I would love to know the number of Criterions bought during the 2 sales vs the rest of the year though Criterion.com. I don't know BN numbers, but I'd be shocked if it's not north of 90-95% happen during the 50% sale (in previous years I would include the 40% sales except this June the Criterions were excluded)/
Since I got a region free player, I am now buying Master of Cinemas instead of Criterion (where possible). Same (or better) PQ and extras, and regularly go for $10-13 USD. The money I have saved from stop buying so many Criterions have more than paid for the player...I only now get Criterions where there is no MOC equivalent (nor one planned)
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Old 07-28-17, 01:22 PM   #124
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My average OOP Criterion price is still $13 over the last 5-6 years accounting for basic coupons (noting I rarely was ever allowed to use the 8/40), membership, and gift cards discounts. If I had done exclusively BN it might even be less, but I have used Amazon for a handful and Criterion directly for about 15%. Even this sale without extra coupons my net OOP after tax is under $14.

MOC are certainly/easily worth their price as well. I do have a few and have no complaints at all nor would I dissuade folks from buying them. They do very good work. Going region free seems to be a no brainer -- the 'barebones" Seiki region free unit is $60 right now and several people have gotten it fro $40 in the past. A somewhat better brand name with a few more features would be 120-150 and should easily pay for itself many times over.

Criterion though has earned a lot of loyalty due to all they've meant to Home Video over the last 30 years, but if it really was the difference between 25-30 vs $13 then loyalty only goes so far. I still have close to a couple hundred Criterion LD though I mostly skipped their DVD except the Eclipse sets. I would say they pretty much invented the concept of serious Home Video (letterbox, commentary, film restorations, deluxe packaging) so I'm still more likely to buy them first even if it's a couple dollars more overall. Though I have been know to pick up teh MOC in addition as a complement instead of replacement.
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Old 07-28-17, 05:26 PM   #125
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Another studio that releases great classic stuff on the Queen's side of the pond is BFI. And over the last year, I found that those UK product listings are available on Amazon.com as well, fulfilled by sellers in the UK but being charged the standard $3.99 US rate S/H. If you are ordering individual titles, it helps this way. I recently ordered 'The Battles of Coronel and Falkland Islands' for only $4.45 + $3.99 S/H fulfilled by a seller called Momox. Something to be aware of if you're ordering RegionB stuff from the USA (added advantage being you can use your points/credits as well)
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