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#326
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Latest entry at Robert's Anime Corner Blog:
It most likely means nothing, but here it is anyways...
It most likely means nothing, but here it is anyways...
Sunday, February 03, 2008
Giants 1 / ADV Films 0
I bet the high ups at ADV feel like the Patriots offensive line did tonight.
HEH.
One industry insider told me this week that "the chances of ADV going under are about the same as the Giants winning the Super Bowl..."
Oppps.
Giants 1 / ADV Films 0
I bet the high ups at ADV feel like the Patriots offensive line did tonight.
HEH.
One industry insider told me this week that "the chances of ADV going under are about the same as the Giants winning the Super Bowl..."
Oppps.
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From: The DVDTalker formerly known as "strawberry99"
Hi no Tori (Phoenix) - Tezuka?
^
A little off topic, but I rooted for the New York Giants simply because they were the underdogs, but on hindsight, I'm not sure if it was the right move. I was practically on the fence; I wanted the Patriots to go undefeated but also wanted to see the Giants give them Patriots a run for their money and win.
So what does this mean, ADV is going to stay afloat?
Anyways, I really want to know about Phoenix:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_i_...enix%2Ci%3Advd
Phoenix, Vol. 1: Persistence of Time (2004)
Phoenix - Vol. 2 - Eternal Recurrence
Phoenix: Immutable Conclusion, Vol. 3 of 3 - Episode 10-13
Is the entire series released complete? Because according to Wiki it was supposedly never finished.
A little off topic, but I rooted for the New York Giants simply because they were the underdogs, but on hindsight, I'm not sure if it was the right move. I was practically on the fence; I wanted the Patriots to go undefeated but also wanted to see the Giants give them Patriots a run for their money and win.
So what does this mean, ADV is going to stay afloat?
Anyways, I really want to know about Phoenix:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_i_...enix%2Ci%3Advd
Phoenix, Vol. 1: Persistence of Time (2004)
Phoenix - Vol. 2 - Eternal Recurrence
Phoenix: Immutable Conclusion, Vol. 3 of 3 - Episode 10-13
Is the entire series released complete? Because according to Wiki it was supposedly never finished.
Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osamu_Tezuka
# Hi no Tori (Phoenix), 1956-89. Tezuka's most profound and ambitious work, dealing with man's quest for immortality, ranging from the distant past to the far future. The central character is the Phoenix, the physical manifestation of the cosmos, who carries within itself the power of immortality; either granted by the Phoenix or taken from the Phoenix by drinking a small amount of its blood. Other characters appear and reappear throughout the series; usually due to their reincarnation. The work remained unfinished at the time of Tezuka's death in 1989. Phoenix has been filmed several times, most notably as Phoenix 2772 (1980).[10]
#328
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Originally Posted by strawberry99
Anyways, I really want to know about Phoenix:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_i_...enix%2Ci%3Advd
Phoenix, Vol. 1: Persistence of Time (2004)
Phoenix - Vol. 2 - Eternal Recurrence
Phoenix: Immutable Conclusion, Vol. 3 of 3 - Episode 10-13
Is the entire series released complete? Because according to Wiki it was supposedly never finished.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_i_...enix%2Ci%3Advd
Phoenix, Vol. 1: Persistence of Time (2004)
Phoenix - Vol. 2 - Eternal Recurrence
Phoenix: Immutable Conclusion, Vol. 3 of 3 - Episode 10-13
Is the entire series released complete? Because according to Wiki it was supposedly never finished.
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Sorry for asking this question, it's probably buried in this thread somewhere but, Besides stripping the extras is there any quality loss in the ADV Thin pack releases? Going from 7 discs to say 5 seems like it will take a bitrate hit unless of course they go from single layer discs to using Dual-layers.
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anyone got any US DVD information on "Neon Genesis Evangelion Rebuild 01- You Are (Not) Alone"?
I was checkin out some sites and found a Region 2 release set for April and a US (not DVD) set for this February.
here is the wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangel...re_(Not)_Alone
I was checkin out some sites and found a Region 2 release set for April and a US (not DVD) set for this February.
here is the wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangel...re_(Not)_Alone
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Originally Posted by strawberry99
Anyways, I really want to know about Phoenix:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_i_...enix%2Ci%3Advd
Phoenix, Vol. 1: Persistence of Time (2004)
Phoenix - Vol. 2 - Eternal Recurrence
Phoenix: Immutable Conclusion, Vol. 3 of 3 - Episode 10-13
Is the entire series released complete? Because according to Wiki it was supposedly never finished.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_i_...enix%2Ci%3Advd
Phoenix, Vol. 1: Persistence of Time (2004)
Phoenix - Vol. 2 - Eternal Recurrence
Phoenix: Immutable Conclusion, Vol. 3 of 3 - Episode 10-13
Is the entire series released complete? Because according to Wiki it was supposedly never finished.
Note that each volume is a stand-alone story: the plots are connected only by theme and by the appearance of the titular Phoenix. So while the story cycle is technically "incomplete", it doesn't just suddenly come to a crashing halt in the middle of a plot thread.
There've been a few anime adaptations of individual volumes of Phoenix over the years. The Media Blasters release you pointed out is the most recent adaptation and covers 5 of the 12 Phoenix stories.
#333
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Originally Posted by Drahksenzu
Sorry for asking this question, it's probably buried in this thread somewhere but, Besides stripping the extras is there any quality loss in the ADV Thin pack releases? Going from 7 discs to say 5 seems like it will take a bitrate hit unless of course they go from single layer discs to using Dual-layers.
#334
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Originally Posted by WEEDEDOUT
anyone got any US DVD information on "Neon Genesis Evangelion Rebuild 01- You Are (Not) Alone"?
I was checkin out some sites and found a Region 2 release set for April and a US (not DVD) set for this February.
here is the wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangel...re_(Not)_Alone
I was checkin out some sites and found a Region 2 release set for April and a US (not DVD) set for this February.
here is the wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangel...re_(Not)_Alone
#335
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From the Anime Bargain Thread:
I'm not too concerned about Bandai Visual sticking to this pricing scheme. Keep in mind, they are not targeting your average/casual anime fans. The pricing should still be cheaper than the Japan R2s, but with English subtitles. I may consider getting these two series in the future, but I will pass at the moment.
There is almost no chance that other studios will do this. Other studios will likely start and do more boxsets/complete collection releases versus single volume releases.
ADV: ???
Bandai Ent.: Maybe in the future. Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is their cash cow now. They will be counting on upcoming series like Code Geass (especially with future [AS] airing) and Lucky ☆ Star (LEs)
FUNimation: Aquarion
Media Blasters: Not very likely, they will stick to mostly sub only releases (excluding Genshiken OVA / Genshiken 2, Tweeny Witches, Kujibiki Unbalance so far)
Right Stuf: Emma and their upcoming license (TBA very soon)
Viz: Buso Renkin
Originally Posted by wildcatlh
Is anyone else worried about Bandai's recent license announcements of True Tears and Shigofumi? (both are great shows btw). They're planning on releasing each series over 7 discs (discs 1-6 with 2 episodes each, disc 7 with 1 episode), more like how the series are released in Japan. $29.99 MSRP per disc. Hope this doesn't become a trend.
There is almost no chance that other studios will do this. Other studios will likely start and do more boxsets/complete collection releases versus single volume releases.
ADV: ???
Bandai Ent.: Maybe in the future. Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is their cash cow now. They will be counting on upcoming series like Code Geass (especially with future [AS] airing) and Lucky ☆ Star (LEs)
FUNimation: Aquarion
Media Blasters: Not very likely, they will stick to mostly sub only releases (excluding Genshiken OVA / Genshiken 2, Tweeny Witches, Kujibiki Unbalance so far)
Right Stuf: Emma and their upcoming license (TBA very soon)
Viz: Buso Renkin
#336
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I thought Haruhi was underperforming a bit domestically? Bandai Ent. certainly went all out with their release, and I give them props for that.
#337
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Originally Posted by fujishig
I thought Haruhi was underperforming a bit domestically? Bandai Ent. certainly went all out with their release, and I give them props for that.

Bandai Ent. will also be doing the LEs treatment for Lucky ☆ Star whenever it comes out. Here is the first English trailer that someone uploaded on YouTube.
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#338
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I'm surprised they're re-releasing the non-LE versions with the character CDs... as you'd think the hardcore fans are the only ones who would want the CDs, and they most likely have already bought the LEs. Ah well, I love the show but I'm not double dipping for that. Thanks for the info WTK! I've been trying to cut back a bit on anime spending, so I've avoided reading up on new releases for a while now, so I had no idea.
#339
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ICv2: Anime DVDs Down 20% in North America During '07
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Anime DVDs Down 20%
Manga Market Still Strong in '07
February 13, 2008
According to the ICv2 Guide #51: Anime/Manga, sales of anime DVDs in North America tumbled by more than 20% during 2007. The number of anime releases in the North American market also continued to fall, dropping another 21% after a 19% decline in 2006. ICv2 estimates the size of the North American anime market at $275-300 million (in retail dollars). The difficulty of ascertaining the scope of mass market anime sales (especially through Wal-Mart, which does not report its DVD sales) makes a precise calculation of the market size difficult.
In spite of declines in both sales and the number of releases, the ICv2 Guide still finds positive signs for the future of anime in America including a growing awareness of anime among American audiences, the eagerness of American anime companies to do whatever they can to shorten the gap between when an anime series debuts in Japan and when it is released in the U.S., and the willingness of those companies to both experiment with new modes of delivery and to devise new lower cost formats.
ICv2's manga and graphic novel market estimates aren't available yet, but it does appear that manga had another strong year in 2007 although its rate of growth is clearly slowing. The major problem facing both publishers and retailers engaged in the manga market remains the proliferation of new titles, which, if publisher projections are to be believed, will be coming at you at the rate of 33 volumes of manga per week.
The new ICv2 Guide also covers the growing number of live action Asian movie releases including in this issue, reviews of two live action films based on popular manga series -- Love*Com, which adapts Aya Nakahara's popular shojo manga, and Death Note, a superb live action version of the hugely popular manga written by Tsugumi Ohba. In addition to reviews of anime, manga and live action movies by noted librarians, retailers and the ICv2 staff, the new Guide contains anime and manga market report, coverage of the top manga and anime releases for the months of May and June, and ICv2's authoritative lists of "The Top 50 Manga Properties of 2007" and "The Top 25 Anime of 2007," both of which are based on sales for the entire year.
Here are the top ten titles from each list:
ICv2's Top Ten Manga Properties for 2007:
1. Naruto
2. Fruits Basket
3. Death Note
4. Bleach
5. Kingdom Hearts
6. Pokemon
7. Vampire Knight
8. Fullmetal Alchemist
9. Absolute Boyfriend
10. Loveless
ICv2 Top Ten Anime Properties for 2007:
1. Dragon Ball Z
2. Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
3. Pokemon
4. Naruto
5. Afro Samurai
6. Howl's Moving Castle
7. Bleach
8. Robotech Shadow Chronicles
9. My Neighbor Totoro
10. Karas the Revelation
Manga Market Still Strong in '07
February 13, 2008
According to the ICv2 Guide #51: Anime/Manga, sales of anime DVDs in North America tumbled by more than 20% during 2007. The number of anime releases in the North American market also continued to fall, dropping another 21% after a 19% decline in 2006. ICv2 estimates the size of the North American anime market at $275-300 million (in retail dollars). The difficulty of ascertaining the scope of mass market anime sales (especially through Wal-Mart, which does not report its DVD sales) makes a precise calculation of the market size difficult.
In spite of declines in both sales and the number of releases, the ICv2 Guide still finds positive signs for the future of anime in America including a growing awareness of anime among American audiences, the eagerness of American anime companies to do whatever they can to shorten the gap between when an anime series debuts in Japan and when it is released in the U.S., and the willingness of those companies to both experiment with new modes of delivery and to devise new lower cost formats.
ICv2's manga and graphic novel market estimates aren't available yet, but it does appear that manga had another strong year in 2007 although its rate of growth is clearly slowing. The major problem facing both publishers and retailers engaged in the manga market remains the proliferation of new titles, which, if publisher projections are to be believed, will be coming at you at the rate of 33 volumes of manga per week.
The new ICv2 Guide also covers the growing number of live action Asian movie releases including in this issue, reviews of two live action films based on popular manga series -- Love*Com, which adapts Aya Nakahara's popular shojo manga, and Death Note, a superb live action version of the hugely popular manga written by Tsugumi Ohba. In addition to reviews of anime, manga and live action movies by noted librarians, retailers and the ICv2 staff, the new Guide contains anime and manga market report, coverage of the top manga and anime releases for the months of May and June, and ICv2's authoritative lists of "The Top 50 Manga Properties of 2007" and "The Top 25 Anime of 2007," both of which are based on sales for the entire year.
Here are the top ten titles from each list:
ICv2's Top Ten Manga Properties for 2007:
1. Naruto
2. Fruits Basket
3. Death Note
4. Bleach
5. Kingdom Hearts
6. Pokemon
7. Vampire Knight
8. Fullmetal Alchemist
9. Absolute Boyfriend
10. Loveless
ICv2 Top Ten Anime Properties for 2007:
1. Dragon Ball Z
2. Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
3. Pokemon
4. Naruto
5. Afro Samurai
6. Howl's Moving Castle
7. Bleach
8. Robotech Shadow Chronicles
9. My Neighbor Totoro
10. Karas the Revelation
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From: The DVDTalker formerly known as "strawberry99"
Regarding: Sakura Diaires OVA versus Sakura Diaires Vol. 1, 2, 3, 4 vs Red Collection
Originally Posted by dtcarson
That red Complete Collection contains the entire series, with the redone subtitles and added scenes that were removed from the original four volume release. I'm not sure what the Vol 1 and Vol 2 OVA collection consists of, but I do think it's the entire series in two volumes. Looks like the addition to the 2=volume release is the 5.1 Eng dub http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=18350
I traded my four-volume release for the one-volume CE when it came out.
(I definitely prefer the sub dialog to the dub; Urara was a spoiled little brat in the dub, but a lot more naive/conflicted/honest in the sub, imho.)
I traded my four-volume release for the one-volume CE when it came out.
(I definitely prefer the sub dialog to the dub; Urara was a spoiled little brat in the dub, but a lot more naive/conflicted/honest in the sub, imho.)
Sorry to bring up a previous post.
I just notice from reading netflix customer opinions, that Sakura Diaries Vol. 1, 2, 3, 4 is also available in English dub. So what's the difference OR better question, why release four separate individual volumes (year 2000) consisting of all 12 episodes, THEN release two OVA (year 2005) volume consisting of the same 12 episodes?
Or do I have this incorrect?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...iaries&x=0&y=0
#341
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Finally...some good anime news
Originally Posted by Maxflier
I can't read all of that because it gives me a headache, but I hope Claymore comes out here in the US. I am really looking forward to that one.
http://funimation.com/announcement/
Last edited by WTK; 02-13-08 at 06:55 PM.
#342
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Question originating from the Anime Bargain Thread:
It would have been nice if this series will get an English dub. To me, a niche series such as this will never be dubbed in English here. TRSI is doing what they have to do so they don't lose money. Not having an English dubbing is the only way to bring a series like Emma to N. America. They will probably be doing the same thing when their next license is announced (which should be fairly soon).
Personally, I'm not overly concerned with anime series not having English dubbing. It will be nice if all series get English dubbing, but that is not realistic for all companies.
It's also worth noting that English is not my native language. I can watch anime in English, Japanese (w/English or Traditional Chinese subtitles), and Mandarin. I usually watch them with the subtitles regardless what language dubbing track is on.
Originally Posted by strawberry99
^ WTK, have you ordered EMMA?
I am actually reluctant due to its sub-only release. A dubbed track would have been an automatic pre-order AND essentially blind-buy, which I seldom if ever do with Anime. Blind-buys are much easier with American cartoon given that animation is just world's better in cartoons. Before anyone saids differently, make sure you have a clear understanding for the definition of animation.
I'm just wondering IF Emma will EVER get a dub.
If anyone has any say on animation with respect to anime and cartoons, I'd be happy to discuss it in the Official Anime Discussion thread http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....87#post8501087
I am actually reluctant due to its sub-only release. A dubbed track would have been an automatic pre-order AND essentially blind-buy, which I seldom if ever do with Anime. Blind-buys are much easier with American cartoon given that animation is just world's better in cartoons. Before anyone saids differently, make sure you have a clear understanding for the definition of animation.
I'm just wondering IF Emma will EVER get a dub.
If anyone has any say on animation with respect to anime and cartoons, I'd be happy to discuss it in the Official Anime Discussion thread http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....87#post8501087
Personally, I'm not overly concerned with anime series not having English dubbing. It will be nice if all series get English dubbing, but that is not realistic for all companies.
It's also worth noting that English is not my native language. I can watch anime in English, Japanese (w/English or Traditional Chinese subtitles), and Mandarin. I usually watch them with the subtitles regardless what language dubbing track is on.
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Originally Posted by WTK
I usually watch them with the subtitles regardless what language dubbing track is on.
#344
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Originally Posted by WTK
I appears that FUNimation may have Claymore. We will find out whatever the new FUNimation license in less than 2 days.
http://funimation.com/announcement/
http://funimation.com/announcement/
http://funimation.com/claymore/
#345
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Upcoming Geneon News ???
Posted @ AoD by John Sirabella, head honcho of Media Blasters:
...Not to get you guys to excited but I know from a very good source that Geneon is in their final stages of finishing their distribution deal with someone. The source is from pretty high up on the food chain so I trust it. I predict in the next several weeks you will hear an announcement. But my understanding is that Geneon will still be doing licensing and not all titles will go through this distribution deal but I do not have all the details.
You have to understand the Japanese way and it becomes much easier to understand in that Japan companies are realy like a circle jerk. Meaning they all own part of each other. Mitsubishi invests in Index who owns Nikkatsu who owns Media Suits or Mitsubishi invests in Geneon who is owned by Dentsu who owns...you get what I mean.
-Js
You have to understand the Japanese way and it becomes much easier to understand in that Japan companies are realy like a circle jerk. Meaning they all own part of each other. Mitsubishi invests in Index who owns Nikkatsu who owns Media Suits or Mitsubishi invests in Geneon who is owned by Dentsu who owns...you get what I mean.
-Js
#346
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Originally Posted by WTK
Thanks for the news WTK! Very glad it is Funimation, I like their LE's and stuff.
Last edited by Maxflier; 02-17-08 at 12:08 AM.
#347
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Originally Posted by WTK
Posted @ AoD by John Sirabella, head honcho of Media Blasters:
#348
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Lucky ☆ Star is coming out on May, 6 2008!
Regular Edition: Retail Price: $29.98
Limited Edition: Retail Price: $64.98
Limited Edition Artbox:

LE Details:
Limited Edition: Retail Price: $64.98
Limited Edition Artbox:

LE Details:
- Special Edition Artbox
- "Motteke Sailor Foku" Opening CD
- Konata Character CD
- Girl's School Uniform (Winter) Print T-Shirt
- Chocolate Cornet Screen Wipe
- Alternate DVD Cover
#349
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Can anyone actually tell me about Lucky Star? I'm a sucker for LEs, but that's pretty steep, even with the RightStuf sale, and the LE artwork for the case itself is not as good as the RE. I didn't mind spending the extra for the Haruhi LEs, because the show was pretty short and I enjoyed it, even though most of the extras (the headband, etc.) were somewhat useless. This is another 2 extra volumes of expensiveness.
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Originally Posted by fujishig
Can anyone actually tell me about Lucky Star? I'm a sucker for LEs, but that's pretty steep, even with the RightStuf sale, and the LE artwork for the case itself is not as good as the RE. I didn't mind spending the extra for the Haruhi LEs, because the show was pretty short and I enjoyed it, even though most of the extras (the headband, etc.) were somewhat useless. This is another 2 extra volumes of expensiveness.



