DJariya

Trailer:

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James Cameron interview. Apparently he saw the film and is supporting it. He says he considers this the 3rd movie.

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Estimated Budget: $170M

Running Time: 126 Minutes

DJariya

Going to see this with a friend Thursday night.

Not sure if I want to spend $20 for an IMAX 3D showing. Most likely we'll see a 2D show.

Troy Stiffler

Was not disappointed at all.

Enjoyed the time travel stuff. They did their due, piecing everything together. Really liked the human-adaptation element.

T2 was a product of its era. We're never going to see a film like that again. My attachment to it has a lot to do with my age, the buildup around the release, and the wow factor of seeing those effects for the first time. Genisys is an apt, respectable continuation of T1 and T2. And really, watching T2, who DIDN'T think how cool it'd be for Terminators to keep sending more and more back at different periods of Sara's life?

I mention this a lot. Now that I saw it, I can say ... the story and characters are just as good as T2. One thing that will never happen again - is that T2 brought filmmaking innovation to the table. That's a one-time thing. There are a lot of different conventions used. But I don't know if I can ever experience the liquid metal and overall scope of the effects again. That's a one-time thing. What's the next evolution of filmmaking? I don't know. But T2 was right there at the beginning of showing us effects that we never saw before.

Showing the John twist in the advertising was dumb. And Dr Who in a random group shot of resistance fighters - I knew something was up.

Why So Blu?

Agreed ^

Just saw this a little while ago and loved. It really did have the same spirit as the first two films and they used a lot of different threads from those films and from minor characters that were in them, too. Danny Dyson comes to mind. In retrospect Miles Dyson didn't want anyone from the company to take over his work. Well, it wasn't from the company - it was his son.

I do think that the plot twist shown in the trailers and posters was stupid to do. Hell, it's like an hour into the film before you get to see that payoff, so who ever thought it was a good idea to show that in marketing materials needs to get fired yesterday. The phase shifting abilities were awesome. Also it's skeleton looked like metal version of a skinned human body. You could see the understructure.

Arnold was great, I didn't mind Emilia Clarke as Sarah - she was more of a smart ass than brooding amazonian. It made sense since she didn't have to be on guard all the time with "Pops" looking out after her. Jai Courtney was alright. He's never bothered me before, so I was able to deal with him.

From this day forth Genisys will be my Terminator 3 of sorts (and I actually liked T3) but TG was a much better film overall. Oh, and a lot of the CGI looks better in the film than in the promotional materials, too.

Why So Blu?

P.S. I hear there's a mid-credit sequence that sets it up for another movie. We left and didn't see what it was. What was it?

Supermallet

I can't possibly believe this. Maybe the story, as the story in T2 wasn't much, but the characters? I absolutely cannot believe this is as good in that department as T2.

I could buy the argument that this is better than T3 and T4 though.

filmerp

I had to choke down a few elements (casting, bad dialogue, that ending), but I actually did enjoy what I saw. It's no T2, but the future war scenes were pretty compelling.

The Antipodean

I thought this was great fun, better than I expected for part 5 in a series. It's the first to real take advantage of the craziness time travel can offer and is much more gonzo than any of the others. But frankly, the series needed some fun after the dour and dank T4. I mean, it's about killer robots from the future, it's not Shakespeare. I *really* wish they hadn't spoiled so much of the plot in the trailers. I don't understand why they did that at all, because if they hadn't, this movie would go off like a bomb with the fans a lot more I think.

Arnie is in great form for a senior citizen and I really like the interactions with his younger self. Both Clarkes were great, even if Emilia isn't quite up to Linda Hamilton's standard, and Jai Courtney was a lot less annoying than he's been elsewhere.

Of course it ain't perfect. Spoilers

But still, better than I imagined and the best of the series since T2 IMHO. I don't really know where they'd from here (or if they need to - there aren't really a lot of threads left hanging) but I'm glad we got a truly interesting sequel at last.

Tom Banjo

I'm fucking STUNNED at all these good reviews. I'd pretty much written off the movies and considered T:TSCC as the proper heir, but maybe I'll go see this afterall.

Why So Blu?

I will probably watch it again this weekend in ATMOS.

TheGuy

It was just to confusing,

RocShemp

Since when was anyone's favorite character?

Solid Snake

Yeah. He's never been a favorite. He's been awesome as that mythical/legendary type....



And he barely did anything. Otherwise.. he was a good/great character in one movie.

TheGuy

Well let's just say main and not evil.

Mike86

jwb0323

I must have missed this, but did they explain who it was that sent 'pops' back?

inri222

The same person who put the egg in the Sulaco.

andy434343

Yeah, I am pretty shocked as well that this movie is reviewing positive here. I also wrote this movie off. I will now look forward to checking it out, as opposed to seeing it when get around to seeing it.

Unless you all became bots recently....and it's all a ploy.

Why So Blu?

Sarah did.

Why So Blu?

Did you watch it already?

Troy Stiffler

And let's not forget those terrible EW shoots and posters. I don't get what they were thinking. Whoever was on that team is probably going to have a hard time getting more work.

JK Simmons came and went really fast. It was an interesting take on a character. He was maybe a nod to the psychiatrist in T2, who was memorable, but never a focal point.

Reviews that say it's "confusing" need to STFU. Seriously. It's a pretty simple time travel movie. They jump time twice. And they do their best to fill in the paradoxes.

Why So Blu?

I like that they went with the outer skin being real instead of synthetic, because, well, it grew back slowly in TG, and way back in T1 - it rotted away when Arnold was in the hotel. There were flies on him. I liked that bit of continuity.

wearetheborg

Any idea why the negative reviews? I can accept that the expectations were higher and it's not upto T2 standards. But why the "it's confusing", "it's a mess" critic reviews?

Looks like I'll be spending $20 at IMAX.

Troy Stiffler

It'd compare it to X-Men: Days of Future Past. It's really not confusing.



I'm not big on film criticism, and don't give anyone much credit. I think it's just a case of a big movie being treated like crap.

It retcons the story. And it opens up the franchise to do whatever it wants. After T2, we had the idea that we're never going to see outside that timeline. We were given that the terminators went thru, and the machine was destroyed immediately afterwards. The idea of tactile time travel warfare is neat. The future of the franchise probably lies with the BO results of Genisys.

It's certainly more charismatic than the last two films. But, again, remember - this isn't the early 90's. This is a 2015 film. The effects are largely been-there-done-that. The filmmaking is different, to keep up with the quicker pace that people are accustomed to now. T2 was almost 25 years ago.

Also, the fascinating stuff that JC put on screen is not here. And that's part of what makes his movies so good - is that he creates moments on screen that haven't been done before. Arnie fixing his eye in T1. All of the T1000 stuff in T2 and the Miles Dyson arm-reveal in T2.

Then you also have the physical stunts that he builds up to (which are more common, but still cool). He worked in the canal jump, the helicopter jump, the semi crash. In Genisys, it goes bigger (the bus crash and some other stuff). But when stunts are too big and CG'd, you tend to disconnect a little bit and they don't feel as intimate.

Maybe I watched T2 too much. But his movies also find little detailed moments that I think are in there because of JC. Like the T1000 using a third arm to reload when he's in the helicopter. Or at Dyson's house, when Arnie pushes open the door and the hardware snaps like it was nothing. Other filmmakers don't care about those details.

Why So Blu?

That was not a third arm. That was the actual helicopter pilot's hand. It's a goof. It was done to show how cool the T-1000 could reload quickly but the hand slipped in by mistake. Kind of how the windshields of the semi break in the canal but then they're back on as it's chasing John Connor.

T2 may be my favorite film of all time but there are tons of goofs in the film.