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Deftones 04-02-25 09:49 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14577787)
so, what do I do with all the games stored on my current SD card?

Uhhh transfer them like they mentioned in the video?

tanman 04-02-25 09:49 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14577787)
so, what do I do with all the games stored on my current SD card?

They're fine existing on your current Switch.

OldBoy 04-02-25 09:51 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 14577789)
Transfer them to the new system using the direct console to console migration which doesn't require a SD card.

Assuming you pay for Nintendo Online.

so where do all my games go that are already stored on there and it's more than the Switch 2's memory?

OldBoy 04-02-25 09:52 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577791)
They're fine existing on your current Switch.

i'm not going to have both consoles hooked up.

tanman 04-02-25 09:53 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Oof…new pricing really took the wind out of their sales for anything revealed in the Direct.

I really feel like they should have revealed a new 3D Mario game with the new pricing. Really blow us away.

DK and Kirby’s Airride at $70 possibly $80??? That’s a hard pill to swallow.

Also Kirby’s Airride in the same presentation as MK world? That’s certainly a choice….

I guess we won’t be getting a Smash bros for some time now.

OldBoy 04-02-25 09:56 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
is this an example of an express SD card? thanks.


tanman 04-02-25 09:58 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Accessory pricing
  • Joy-Con 2 $90
  • Pro Controller $80
  • Camera $50
  • Joy-Con 2 charging grip $35
  • Dock $110


Noonan 04-02-25 09:59 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
It is not. Express cards are 800-900 mb/s transfer speed.

tanman 04-02-25 10:00 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

No. There is nothing that says Express in there at all.

https://a.co/d/iwg3CW6

Deftones 04-02-25 10:04 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14577793)
so where do all my games go that are already stored on there and it's more than the Switch 2's memory?

Let's start with this. Do you understand how a transfer works?

OldBoy 04-02-25 10:04 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

this is it, i believe, but would rather have the 2TB card. oh well. 1TB isn't bad.

Noonan 04-02-25 10:05 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Just going to pay full price for one today rather than try to find a deal between now and June?

fujishig 04-02-25 10:05 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577771)
WTF why is the Switch 2 SO much cheaper in JPN?? About $100 cheaper???




https://x.com/wario64/status/1907435...7r9G6o9Z5qL2DQ

I said this in the tariffs thread but all switches are much cheaper in Japan because of exchange rates and how week the yen is.

Deftones 04-02-25 10:07 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14577816)
I said this in the tariffs thread but all switches are much cheaper in Japan because of exchange rates and how week the yen is.

That may be true but there has to be some tariff protection built in.

OldBoy 04-02-25 10:08 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 14577815)
Just going to pay full price for one today rather than try to find a deal between now and June?

we'll see. i like to future proof and these don't always go down. i've priced before.

Noonan 04-02-25 10:09 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Future proof? Are you worried SD cards are going to disappear from the market in the next couple months?

Enjoy your shiny new SD card that'll sit in its package until June, I guess.

tanman 04-02-25 10:11 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14577816)
I said this in the tariffs thread but all switches are much cheaper in Japan because of exchange rates and how weak the yen is.

So it’s not specifically tariffs but just the weak yen? Still… that’s a bitter pill to swallow. >$100 cheaper for the console and $20 cheaper for the games is just insane.

Nintendo is really cashing in on their good faith fan base they’ve built up this generation.

Really curious what the scalper situation will be like.

lopper 04-02-25 10:12 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Yikes. Pretty deflating presentation. We knew most of these details about the hardware already, and anything new was underwhelming.

That launch price along with such a weak first party line up was not expected. I'm personally not interested in anything the C button does, mouse controls, or playing higher resolution versions of games I played years ago. The new dock is nice, but the Switch is strictly a handheld for me.

Metroid looks great, and I am looking forward to playing Wind Waker, since I skipped that when it launched.

Can't believe that Switch 2 tech demo is a paid game.


fujishig 04-02-25 10:12 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 14577817)
That may be true but there has to be some tariff protection built in.

Sure. I did just check my switch lite and it was made in China, however most of my carts say Made in Japan, and to my knowledge tariffs haven't been raised against Japan (yet). I'm just saying there's also a huge difference between Japanese switch (1) prices and US prices that have nothing to do with tariffs, so the price increase isn't due primarily to that.

For comparison
Switch OLED in Japan retail: 37980 yen = about 250
Switch OLED in US retail: 350

Also the Japanese price includes tax.

tanman 04-02-25 10:12 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 14577819)
we'll see. i like to future proof and these don't always go down. i've priced before.

Yes they do. Memory is like the ONE thing in life that ALWAYS gets cheaper. NEVER buy more memory than you need right now. 🙄

Sonny Corinthos 04-02-25 10:15 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 14577758)
Preorders directly from Nintendo open May 8th for active NSO subscribers. You can pre-register now. Although I accidentally selected the bundle, which I don't want, and you can't change your mind. Oh well.

I just pre-registered for the bundle. Thanks for the link! Any have any ideas on how hard it will be to get one on release day?

tanman 04-02-25 10:17 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Official announcement on Switch accessories. So good news there. Seems like basically everything is compatible that’s to be expected.

All controllers are backwards compatible. Just charging issues of course.


Maxflier 04-02-25 10:24 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Charging for the tech demo "game" rotfl
That announcement would have made more sense yesterday.

tanman 04-02-25 10:24 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Sorry. I don’t mean to spam this thread but it all seems like good information to share. I’m on mobile right now and it’s just a lot easier to share Wario64s posts.

Nintendo is introducing Game Key Cards. Basically it’s a physical game but then links for you to download the game.

I mostly buy my games physically for collecting purposes and I still don’t fully trust Nintendo with digital games after what they have done in the past. So I REALLY hope this will be a limited use case scenario.

The only example I can find is I guess they’re repackaging the Switch Zelda games and they’re basically going to have the Switch 1 game with the download for Switch 2 enhancements on the card. So no reason to buy it over just buying a the Switch version and just upgrading it. Very odd choice from Nintendo. The cynic in me thinks they just want a new UPC so they can start selling it to suckers without any discounts. I’d rather just have the full enhanced game on the cart but I’m sure that’s just me.




tanman 04-02-25 10:28 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Maxflier (Post 14577836)
Charging for the tech demo "game" rotfl


Seriously. That might be the most appalling thing about this whole direct. I mean the crazy new prices are already appalling but the fact that Nintendo has the gall to charge for that tech demo??? I mean it didn’t even seem like a tech demo. It looked more like an interactive FAQ. They are REALLY burning through some positive Nintendo fan Karma with these announcements.

Especially considering Sony’s awesome Astro’s playroom and the incredible tech demos that come with VR headsets. This is like a slap in the face.

OldBoy 04-02-25 10:31 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577832)
Official announcement on Switch accessories. So good news there. Seems like basically everything is compatible that’s to be expected.

All controllers are backwards compatible. Just charging issues of course.

https://x.com/wario64/status/1907448...7r9G6o9Z5qL2DQ

except that the Pro doesn't have the C button. but, if you don't play online, i guess this isn't a factor.

fujishig 04-02-25 10:31 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577837)
Sorry. I don’t mean to spam this thread but it all seems like good information to share. I’m on mobile right now and it’s just a lot easier to share Wario64s posts.

Nintendo is introducing Game Key Cards. Basically it’s a physical game but then links for you to download the game.

I mostly buy my games physically for collecting purposes and I still don’t fully trust Nintendo with digital games after what they have done in the past. So I REALLY hope this will be a limited use case scenario.

The only example I can find is I guess they’re repackaging the Switch Zelda games and they’re basically going to have the Switch 1 game with the download for Switch 2 enhancements on the card. So no reason to buy it over just buying a the Switch version and just upgrading it. Very odd choice from Nintendo. The cynic in me thinks they just want a new UPC so they can start selling it to suckers without any discounts. I’d rather just have the full enhanced game on the cart but I’m sure that’s just me.



https://x.com/wario64/status/1907451...7r9G6o9Z5qL2DQ

Basically removes the benefits of physical games (besides storage space) unless you just want a placeholder case. It would actually be more convenient to just have a digital code in a case like they do for some games because at least then you don't have to put in the cart for a license check.

Also it doesn't seem like the download for switch 2 enhancements is on the card, it still makes you download it from the internet, or am I reading that wrong?

fujishig 04-02-25 10:33 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577841)
Seriously. That might be the most appalling thing about this whole direct. I mean the crazy new prices are already appalling but the fact that Nintendo has the gall to charge for that tech demo??? I mean it didn’t even seem like a tech demo. It looked more like an interactive FAQ. They are REALLY burning through some positive Nintendo fan Karma with these announcements.

Especially considering Sony’s awesome Astro’s playroom and the incredible tech demos that come with VR headsets. This is like a slap in the face.

It is greedy, but this is basically something like 1-2-Switch except they named it weirdly: a bunch of tech demos that you pay for. The difference between this and VR is that VR really needed a tech demo to sell the system, and there are enough diehard fans that want to show off their Nintendo system that they will buy it full price (this has to be a non full price"game" right?)

tanman 04-02-25 10:41 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14577844)
Basically removes the benefits of physical games (besides storage space) unless you just want a placeholder case. It would actually be more convenient to just have a digital code in a case like they do for some games because at least then you don't have to put in the cart for a license check.

Also it doesn't seem like the download for switch 2 enhancements is on the card, it still makes you download it from the internet, or am I reading that wrong?

Correct. The Switch 1 game is on the cart and includes the enhancements. How this will work if it’s just a code in a box or encoded on the cart itself isn’t revealed yet.

that’s why hopefully this is a niche use case. I’m hoping that MP4 will just be a Switch 2 release although it doesn’t seem like it… so that’ll mean that it too will likely be a $90 game :( $70 for a AAA first party Switch game then $20 for the enhancements.


Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14577845)
It is greedy, but this is basically something like 1-2-Switch except they named it weirdly: a bunch of tech demos that you pay for. The difference between this and VR is that VR really needed a tech demo to sell the system, and there are enough diehard fans that want to show off their Nintendo system that they will buy it full price (this has to be a non full price"game" right?)

I guess so. But 1-2 switch seemed much more like an actual game. This just seems…SO bad for a paid game.

Deftones 04-02-25 10:42 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577837)
Sorry. I don’t mean to spam this thread but it all seems like good information to share. I’m on mobile right now and it’s just a lot easier to share Wario64s posts.

Nintendo is introducing Game Key Cards. Basically it’s a physical game but then links for you to download the game.

I mostly buy my games physically for collecting purposes and I still don’t fully trust Nintendo with digital games after what they have done in the past. So I REALLY hope this will be a limited use case scenario.

The only example I can find is I guess they’re repackaging the Switch Zelda games and they’re basically going to have the Switch 1 game with the download for Switch 2 enhancements on the card. So no reason to buy it over just buying a the Switch version and just upgrading it. Very odd choice from Nintendo. The cynic in me thinks they just want a new UPC so they can start selling it to suckers without any discounts. I’d rather just have the full enhanced game on the cart but I’m sure that’s just me.



https://x.com/wario64/status/1907451...7r9G6o9Z5qL2DQ

So, if I understand this correctly, basically you are paying $10 extra for physical copy. Seems like someone sort of tried this in the past and it didn't go over so well. :lol:

Decker 04-02-25 10:45 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 14577820)
Future proof? Are you worried SD cards are going to disappear from the market in the next couple months?

Enjoy your shiny new SD card that'll sit in its package until June, I guess.

To be fair, this is the only Switch2-related impulse buy OB is able to make with his Amazon credit today, so OF COURSE he's got to do it.

fujishig 04-02-25 10:53 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577851)
Correct. The Switch 1 game is on the cart and includes the enhancements. How this will work if it’s just a code in a box or encoded on the cart itself isn’t revealed yet.

that’s why hopefully this is a niche use case. I’m hoping that MP4 will just be a Switch 2 release although it doesn’t seem like it… so that’ll mean that it too will likely be a $90 game :( $70 for a AAA first party Switch game then $20 for the enhancements.

.

Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your wording but that says the game and enhancements are NOT on the cart, but that it's a key to download the game from the internet. At least for the game-key card concept. I guess the benefit is that you can freely share it like a physical game card because it limits the license to whoever has the cart, instead of the account. This is pretty much how disc systems work, the disc is primarily a license check (and an initial install option), though that's mainly because the entire game needs to be saved to the HDD for speed purposes. I have no idea why they'd introduce this in a cart system, though.

But maybe you're saying there's yet another version of this for Zelda that includes the switch game and something that lets you get the enhancements for a combined price? They are going to confuse sooo many people with this nonsense.

tanman 04-02-25 10:54 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 14577852)
So, if I understand this correctly, basically you are paying $10 extra for physical copy. Seems like someone sort of tried this in the past and it didn't go over so well. :lol:

I guess we don’t have any pricing yet for the enhanced versions. I am curious how much it will be. Hopefully just $10. But this way they can sell BotW and TotK for full price $60 and $70 + the enhancements vs getting the Switch versions on sale like they have been numerous times before.

Good news is there will be some Switch games that will have enhancements for free. Hopefully to fix some of the games that for some reason run terribly on the Switch.


tanman 04-02-25 11:07 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14577855)
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your wording but that says the game and enhancements are NOT on the cart, but that it's a key to download the game from the internet. At least for the game-key card concept. I guess the benefit is that you can freely share it like a physical game card because it limits the license to whoever has the cart, instead of the account. This is pretty much how disc systems work, the disc is primarily a license check (and an initial install option), though that's mainly because the entire game needs to be saved to the HDD for speed purposes. I have no idea why they'd introduce this in a cart system, though.

But maybe you're saying there's yet another version of this for Zelda that includes the switch game and something that lets you get the enhancements for a combined price? They are going to confuse sooo many people with this nonsense.

I guess we don’t know for sure. On the Zelda packaging it says includes the Nintendo Switch game and the Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Upgrade Pack.

On the Keycard FAQ it says that an initial download is required to play the game and after the download you still have to put the physical game in to play.

Since this “feature” has only been shown on the Zelda games and MP4 I’m assuming they just repackaged the Switch games and you’ll have to download the enhancements. I guess they could not have anything on the cart and just link it to a full digital download but I hope that’s not the case. Hopefully you’ll at least save some memory by having the main game on the cart itself if you have to insert it anyways to play. I also wonder if you can just play the original Switch game without the enhancements. But I guess you wouldn’t have any reason to do that.

A lot of questions and a lot of assumptions. Like I said I hope this is a niche use case. Probably a transitionary way to make it “easier” to distinguish if you’re getting the Switch version or the Switch 2 version of games that will come out on both systems.

Also cheaper for them to manufacture. Although why can’t they just make a Switch 2 version and package it that way. Without all this game key crap. Especially for games like MP4 and the Pokémon game that haven’t even been released yet.

Now I’m mad again :mad:

fujishig 04-02-25 11:10 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577877)
I guess we don’t know for sure. On the Zelda packaging it says includes the Nintendo Switch game and the Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Upgrade Pack.

On the Keycard FAQ it says that an initial download is required to play the game and after the download you still have to put the physical game in to play.

Since this “feature” has only been shown on the Zelda games and MP4 I’m assuming they just repackaged the Switch games and you’ll have to download the enhancements. I guess they could not have anything on the cart and just link it to a full digital download but I hope that’s not the case. Hopefully you’ll at least save some memory by having the main game on the cart itself if you have to insert it anyways to play. I also wonder if you can just play the original Switch game without the enhancements. But I guess you wouldn’t have any reason to do that.

A lot of questions and a lot of assumptions. Like I said I hope this is a niche use case. Probably a transitionary way to make it “easier” to distinguish if you’re getting the Switch version or the Switch 2 version of games that will come out on both systems.

Also cheaper for them to manufacture. Although why can’t they just make a Switch 2 version and package it that way. Without all this game key crap. Especially for games like MP4 and the Pokémon game that haven’t even been released yet.

Now I’m mad again :mad:

The game-key explanation explicitly says it gives you a license to download the game and that's it. I don't think there's even a playable game there if, say, you don't have initial access to the internet. Because the "enhanced" games work a little different, it makes some sense for Nintendo to have a "bundle" that has the switch game and some kind of download for the enhancement if only to get rid of their remaining stock, but I don't think that has anything to do with this game-key thing. It's like a sneaky way to move everyone to digital altogether.

I just hope this game-key thing is an option and not the default, but I have a hard time believing they'd be selling regular games AND game-key cards for the same games on the same retail shelves.

fujishig 04-02-25 11:28 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
On a side note I'm kinda excited that they're continuing with amiibos even though there's no Smash (yet). Street Fighter 6 amiibos look pretty cool, and more Zelda is always welcome.

beavis69 04-02-25 11:28 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
Like I said in other places, if you think the Switch 2 is high just wait until the PlayStation 6 or whatever abortion Microsoft limps out. This may be the cheapest you will ever see a console again. I'm honestly shocked it's this cheap. Pricing has never caught up with development cost and it's not sustainable anymore, especially in the current climate.

I agree that the tech demo being a paid item is really lame and out of sorts for Nintendo. Other than that I would say the lineup of games could be the largest in history considering the backlog, new games, and ports. The new hardware features are impressive and there was a time in my life I would use the camera but I think that time has past. I'm in day 1 based on DK (who I love and didn't even have in my head as a new game), MK, and WindWaker as part of the GC VC

Love all the dorks complaining about the cheaper region locked Japanese console. Like yea Nintendo wants to make sure the console is in the hands of every citizen, it's like printing money. We're going to see alot more of that going forward with (once again) the current climate.

tanman 04-02-25 11:46 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14577879)
The game-key explanation explicitly says it gives you a license to download the game and that's it. I don't think there's even a playable game there if, say, you don't have initial access to the internet. Because the "enhanced" games work a little different, it makes some sense for Nintendo to have a "bundle" that has the switch game and some kind of download for the enhancement if only to get rid of their remaining stock, but I don't think that has anything to do with this game-key thing. It's like a sneaky way to move everyone to digital altogether.

I just hope this game-key thing is an option and not the default, but I have a hard time believing they'd be selling regular games AND game-key cards for the same games on the same retail shelves.


I don’t know. Seems like they would have the Switch game on there otherwise what’s the purpose on the game key card thing.


…but you may be on to something.

now it’s been revealed that the Bravely Default game and Street Fighter 6 is going to be a game key card. WTF is the purpose of this thing then? It’s worse than a code in a box if you have to put the stupid blank card in your system anyways.

hmm…maybe this is a way to charge their jacked up prices in their specific regions. If they had a code in a box I’m sure there would be a grey market for selling JPN game codes.

So maybe it’s to plug the hole in the market while pushing people to digital so they can have region pricing again?

But then WHY CANT THEY JUST PUT THE STUPID GAME ON THE CART THEN???

Decker 04-02-25 11:47 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 
I guess the game file size is too big to store on a cart?

Noonan 04-02-25 11:55 AM

re: Nintendo Switch 2 - 06/05/25
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14577910)
I don’t know. Seems like they would have the Switch game on there otherwise what’s the purpose on the game key card thing.


…but you may be on to something.

now it’s been revealed that the Bravely Default game and Street Fighter 6 is going to be a game key card. WTF is the purpose of this thing then? It’s worse than a code in a box if you have to put the stupid blank card in your system anyways.

hmm…maybe this is a way to charge their jacked up prices in their specific regions. If they had a code in a box I’m sure there would be a grey market for selling JPN game codes.

So maybe it’s to plug the hole in the market while pushing people to digital so they can have region pricing again?

But then WHY CANT THEY JUST PUT THE STUPID GAME ON THE CART THEN???

It's really no different than disc games that install from the cloud but still require you to use the disc to access the game. The disc is nothing more than an activation key/proof of ownership.


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