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:lol: True.

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I don't see anything here that's been overtly stupid or silly, but maybe thats just me. Or maybe my comments have been stupid :lol: :shrug:

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I apologize if I've been negative, but while I've enjoyed Nintendo's games from day one, most of their consoles, especially the last few, have left more than a little to be desired, and this one seems to be following suite. I understand that they're trying to be different from Sony and MS, and I'm not sure what I would do to differentiate from them, but I don't think N's been going about it right.

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Yep, we're negative because we care and want the best system Nintendo can produce so they don't go the way of Sega.

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It sounds like you guys want Nintendo to go the way of Sega, though.

"If you can't make a console that we want, don't bother! We love your IP, but put them on real home consoles! You're already breaching into the mobile phone platform, go ahead and stop with your weird handhelds too."

I mean, they are taking a step to actually make a home console that isn't a gimmick and you're still complaining.

Don't like WaggleTech? Gone.
Don't like a tablet controller? Gone.
Want a traditional "Pro" controller? Check.
Want 1080p? Check.
Want online? Check.

You don't like that it's also a portable system? Leave it in the dock and enjoy your IP.

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It's not really a home console, though? It's a tablet that can output to a tv. I can understand the complaining at least until more specs come out.

I don't see how you can say that the switch thing isn't a gimmick.

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I think you just answered your own question.

It's not a home console. It's a handheld that can output to a TV when you're home and supports various controllers to that end.

It's what Apple is starting to do with tvOS.

It's not a gimmick, it's a feature. It's not going to ruin any game made for it by tacking on "mobility" or "couch".

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I mean, do we really need another XB1 or PS4? Do we really want Nintendo to keep splitting their game franchises across completely different form factors?

I really and truly don't. This is exactly what I need from Nintendo.

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A feature I don't care to have to pay extra for though if it does not have to be done. And here's the thing, you or anyone of else don't know though if the addition of the portability is going to ruin any game made for it. Because they added the portable feature it very well may have gimped how great this system could be in terms of abilities.

If Nintendo is not going to go the way of Sega in terms of the "home console" market then yes I would love to have a great Nintendo home console like back in the day when they ruled that market. They seemed to do perfectly fine back then having a home console division and a portable division separate of each other. Instead now they try to get even more gimmicky at least in the sense of TRYING to give me a home console but add on a portable feature I don't need/want. I'm glad that it would work for you, but I've seen the improvement that both XB1 and PS4 have been doing in terms of graphics,etc and I just want my beloved Nintendo franchises of old to also be able to perform at least at their level considering how many years after they have been out on the market. Hopefully this system can come closer to delivering this to me, but we'll not know until more information is out of course.

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We do know that. It can't ruin anything. You know why? It doesn't exist yet. It is what it is.

Could a traditional home console be more powerful? Absolutely.

Would the next traditional home console from Nintendo be more powerful? History tells us no.

Even if this is just a WiiU as a portable device, it's still better for me than what they've been doing the last 10 years.

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My point is that it is at worst a lateral move for a console and a huge step for a portable. And it's wonderful for their library. I can't see it as a bad thing but I don't care for a 4K Nintendo 256 just to play Mario, Metroid, Zelda, and Pikmin.

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Such a low bar though.

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Agreed but we gotta start somewhere.

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Wonderful for their library?

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If they want third party support, they need to be comprable to PS4 and XB1. If this console comes in underpowered, especially when we are a month away from PS4 Pro, how do you sell developers on that? With all of the talk about better graphics and 4K, I just don't see the gimmick with the portability and quick docking being a huge selling point.

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Nintendo's handhelds have typically had a completely different architecture from their consoles, so they had two separate ecosystems they had to support. Now it's completely aligned, so instead of having to make one Mario Kart for the 3DS and another for the Wii U, one 2D Mario game for the 3DS and another for the Wii U, one 3D Mario game for the 3DS and another for the Wii U, one Donkey Kong game blah blah blah, they should be able to push out a lot more games. Not to speak for pinata, but that's why I think the Switch is wonderful for their library.

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Also, why the hell doesn't Nintendo do a subscription service like Sony does? They have hundreds of games that people would pay $15 to $20 a month to play.

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Ok, I wasn't sure if he was referring to backwards compatibility, as the only thing I have heard is that it's not :shrug:

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I'm kinda where slop is:

I don't know what they should be doing, but this just seems like the wrong direction.

I mean we just had a Nintendo console with a tablet and it failed fucking miserably. What's the difference with the Switch? The tablet is the console and you can leave your house (for 3 hours). I don't see how that's all of a sudden a game changer.

I'm also not falling for the "we have all teh devs110!!01!" nonesense. Both the Wii and WiiU boasted similar pre-launch claims and hype and we see where both of those ended up. So all that goes in the "I'll believe it when I see it" category.

All that being said, I was pretty harsh on the WiiU before it launched and I still bought one at launch.

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The Switch seems like a terrible portable though. Good graphics (with corresponding increase in development costs), terrible battery life, more expensive games and horrible form factor. I'm pretty sure Sony already released something like this and it failed miserably. ;)

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I was just commenting on the overall negativity :lol:

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Yeah, that's what I meant with too few words.

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This could very well be the case as well. But I'm sure they've already planned an external Switch battery that slides between the controllers and the unit. A little extra width for a few more hours out there ;)

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Outside the home? (PS4/Vita)

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Yep, back in post #149