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Thanks Adam.

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November is going to be ridiculous for Switch releases. Among the big titles:

Doom
LA Noire
Resident Evil Revelations Collection
Skyrim
Sonic Forces (although it’s questionable how good it’ll be)

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If that's your idea of ridiculous I weep for the Switch's future.

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There are people who have not played those games (...like me). Portability is a deal for me, as I'm hardloy home long enough to really enjoy a game. Considering Nintendo's last console had NO third party support, ports of these older titles are pretty big deal for Nintendo.

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Cool.

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That’s a good selection of games coming in one month. Yes a lot are ports but regardless those are big name titles from major studios. I don’t see any reason to weep for the Switch’s future based on those as the comsil already seems to be getting far more support than previous Nintendo outings.

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I'm looking to buy a Switch to play Odyssey, but yeah, unless those titles are under $20, that list of games is underwhelming.

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They aren’t under $20 but realistically they wouldn’t be. Doom is a year old and includes the DLC plus new modes for Switch. Sonic Forces is $40 and it’s a brand new game. The Resident Evil Revelations Collection is $40 for two games plus new content. LA Noire is remastered plus a Rockstar game on a Nintendo console is a big deal. Skyrim is also a pretty big get for the console in my opinion despite being older. More than anything games like that are showing the console is being well supported. I happen to think it’s a good list and those are just some highlights.

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Yeah, I don't get the "but it's a port of a game already out on ____". So, when PUBG finally gets released on PS4, I suppose it's not worth buying since it's been out on the XB1?

I've got Doom and Skyrim on the PS4/PS3, but I may end up buying both again simply because I can fire up the Switch ANYWHERE and play (and I do bring it to work, and of course when I travel).

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If PUBG skips PS4 and doesn't get released until PS5, then yes, that's a fair comparison. LA Noire, Resident Evil Revelations, and Skyrim were LAST generation games. I'll give you DOOM, even though it's over a year old at this point. I think it's a fair criticism that the Switch is missing out on all of the new releases (Shadow of War, Battlefront, AC Orgins, Call of Duty, etc) and still charging $40 - $60 for what is essentially a greatest hits / remastered collections.

I am looking forward to playing Super Mario Odyssey, but the Switch won't be getting nearly the amount of game time my PS4 will be getting this season.

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The pricing should be no higher than $29.99, other than that I have no issue with portable re-issues. But then again outside of Mario Odyssey and Wolfenstein 2, I'm not really looking forward to much this fall.

(That said, Syberia should not be $29.99.)

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I'm willing to pay full price for Odyssey and upcoming Kirby, Yoshi, etc first party games. I don't really want to pay full price for a port of a 6 year old game, but I imagine that if the reviews are good, I may consider picking it up at a budget price.

Is Walmart restocking the Splatoon 2 Switch console bundle? or the Splatoon Pro Controller? Or has that ship sailed?

I know that Sony & Microsoft always have an aggressively priced console bundle on Black Friday, but I have less of a good feeling that Nintendo will have any discounts for this holiday.

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As far as pricing goes how much of a say does Nintendo have? I realize that they get a portion of sales but doesn’t the game publisher/developer set the price? The way I look at it is this, the Wii U had virtually no third party support which killed it. The Switch is getting support but costs more to develop for so games like I mentioned are basically companies like Bethesda and Rockstar testing the waters with to see if the Switch is going to be something they want to continue developing for going forward but since it’s more to develop for they’re charging more for some of these titles.

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I doubt they're charging more because it costs more to develop, they're charging more because they can. It's a new system and the marketplace isn't as crowded. I know the rumor is that the cartridges are more expensive but I don't see why that would hold this console back as opposed to the 3ds, which had cheaper games (except for some Nintendo titles and the Atlus tax).

I mean it started at launch. I wasn't going to buy Street Fighter II for 40 bucks.

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The bundles should be everywhere, in store and on line. The controller might be a little more difficult to find, I only saw it once and picked it up at that time. It was in stock at Toysrus.com so you might want to check there.

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I thought someone already said it was Nintendo that was setting up those prices, which is why LA Noire costs $10 more on their system. It's called "The Nintendo Tax." I'm sure it probably costs more to produce a cartridge than a disc, but I don't see why that design decision cost should be passed on to the consumer.

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Okay, I put a in-stock alert on Walmart.com, but I can stop by and see what they have at a couple local Walmarts. That's good about the controller at least. Otherwise, I see they have a Xenoblade Pro Controller coming out soon that looks sharp also.

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Then why are most other new games $60 which is basically standard? Sorry but I don’t buy that there’s a “Nintendo Tax”.

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The controller is completely worth it. Looks really cool with the Walmart console if you end up getting it. Also looks cool with the Neon console. Looks like TRU currently has it in stock again

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=133530966

You can also use Brickseek to find the console. It's currently showing 90% availability in the US.

http://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/

Just use SKU 394092847

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I might pick up Doom, but I already 100%-ed LA Noire and Skyrim years ago on my Xbox 360.

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The WiiU didn't exactly fly off shelves living off 360 ports the first year. Skyrim and LA Noir are 6 years old. Is the appeal the mobility? I guess if someone has never owned another console ever would be all over these?

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I think mobility is definitely nice in some of these games. I may pick up Doom down the road as I have never played it before.

I think the biggest takeway from these releases is that the Switch is actually getting good 3rd party support...something the Wii U never really had.

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Wii U had some decent ports the first year like I think Rayman Legends and Assassin's Creed Black Flag. There might have been a Call of Duty in there too, but all of those were relatively current games. If it was Assassin's Creed II or something, then it would be like these Switch releases.

The problem with Nintendo since the N64 onward is that they are one or two generations behind the computing/graphics power of the competing systems. I think the Gamecube was the closest to its competition, but the Wii, Wii U, and now Switch will struggle getting quality ports of anything recent.

I don't mean to sound negative, I just don't want anyone to get any hopes up that the Switch will get the latest games developed by top third party developers. But I think people have the right approach as thinking of these ports are portable versions, along the lines of a Vita port rather than a console port.

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Skyrim is still fairly popular for being an older game so I’d say it’s still a noteworthy release. As far as LA Noire it’s the first time Rockstar has released a game on a Nintendo platform since 2009. The last releases they did were Bully on Wii in 2008 and Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars on DS in 2009. I’d say they’re one of the bigger names as far as video game publishers and their games could bring some more people to the Switch, especially if this port does well and they release future games on the platform.