Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
#576
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
The narrative changes any way they want it to with an extra two or three YEARS to work and plan. The problem is their mentality - they insist on casting themselves as quirky outsiders rather than actual contenders in the market at large. This is asinine. Videogaming was "playing Nintendo" before Sony or Microsoft even came along.
The problem isn't relative to other tablets - it's whether or not this performance is acceptable to the userbase in general. As someone who was initially excited to see Nintendo "unify their home and console products", the final product is a disappointing compromise in both directions.
The problem isn't relative to other tablets - it's whether or not this performance is acceptable to the userbase in general. As someone who was initially excited to see Nintendo "unify their home and console products", the final product is a disappointing compromise in both directions.
#577
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Does this thing even have a cell phone antenna like the original Vitas did? Otherwise how do you use that paid online plan on the go?
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#579
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GameStop's "First Allotment" Of Switch Preorders Have Sold Out.
http://kotaku.com/gamestop-has-sold-...ium=Socialflow
http://kotaku.com/gamestop-has-sold-...ium=Socialflow
#580
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Sorry, missed this: Zelda, Mario and Arms, right now. And he's really interested in the portability (he plays games on the WiiU tablet all the time).
As for the expense, we're a little spoiled - the SNES was $199 in 1990, which is $367.48 today. So a system and a game is about the same price.
As for the expense, we're a little spoiled - the SNES was $199 in 1990, which is $367.48 today. So a system and a game is about the same price.
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#581
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Yes and no. I get that inflation screws the numbers, but back then you had basically two options. Now you have three consoles, phones & tablets. Competition should drive the cost lower. Not to mention it's far easier today to compare features and look at third party support and determine if it is worth the asking price.
#582
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Sorry, missed this: Zelda, Mario and Arms, right now. And he's really interested in the portability (he plays games on the WiiU tablet all the time).
As for the expense, we're a little spoiled - the SNES was $199 in 1990, which is $367.48 today. So a system and a game is about the same price.
As for the expense, we're a little spoiled - the SNES was $199 in 1990, which is $367.48 today. So a system and a game is about the same price.
And while you mention being spoiled, I brought it up earlier but when someone could have gotten during the holiday season for less a 1TB Xbox One with 2 AAA games(so in this case say Zelda and Mario with the Switch) this is definitely too much for my blood. The only way I would have grabbed this at launch was if I could have gotten say 2 reserved and sold one for most likely at least some profit to bring down the one I keep to say $200 would have made it worth my while. Instead I'll wait until I can at least get it at $300 or less with Zelda and/or Mario bundled with it if not a little more.
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#583
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Yes and no. I get that inflation screws the numbers, but back then you had basically two options. Now you have three consoles, phones & tablets. Competition should drive the cost lower. Not to mention it's far easier today to compare features and look at third party support and determine if it is worth the asking price.
#584
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Sorry, missed this: Zelda, Mario and Arms, right now. And he's really interested in the portability (he plays games on the WiiU tablet all the time).
As for the expense, we're a little spoiled - the SNES was $199 in 1990, which is $367.48 today. So a system and a game is about the same price.
As for the expense, we're a little spoiled - the SNES was $199 in 1990, which is $367.48 today. So a system and a game is about the same price.
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Games also cost about 50 times as much to make as they did 20 years ago and even with that the prices are the same or lower.
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Eh.. would need to see an analysis on this. I'm sure the pricing on ROM cartridges was a lot harder to manage back then, and companies have a much larger, mainstream userbase to sell into now. The costs have to more or less be in line or pricing would, in fact, have gone up.
#587
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
AAA games regularly cost between 50-100 million dollars to make nowadays and that's not even including marketing.
#588
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Nintendo Switch’s included Joy-Con Grip is not the same as $30 Charging Grip
An extra charge to charge your controllers easily.
http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/16/142...-charging-grip
An extra charge to charge your controllers easily.
http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/16/142...-charging-grip
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Nintendo Switch’s included Joy-Con Grip is not the same as $30 Charging Grip
An extra charge to charge your controllers easily.
http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/16/142...-charging-grip
An extra charge to charge your controllers easily.
http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/16/142...-charging-grip
#594
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
The Jimquisition thing is pretty accurate, but damn he spend 75% of the video on the online service and virtual console. There's plenty more he didn't even scratch the surface with.
I mean... Switch is good. All hail Nintendo.
I mean... Switch is good. All hail Nintendo.
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Jim replies:
Yes. The idea being that the NES/SNES thing is so incomprehensibly awful that I was blazing through anything else to get back to that subject.
#596
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1SbHLXlH8
I like the old school look of this game. I just hope it plays well.
I like the old school look of this game. I just hope it plays well.
#597
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Jim seems to just go over the same stuff that we've already complained about here, so no new surprises there.
Stuff like Sonic Mania worries me on the Switch because of the lack of a D-Pad.
Stuff like Sonic Mania worries me on the Switch because of the lack of a D-Pad.
#599
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
And it's coming to every other console as well.
#600
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Well yeah, i'm just talking 2D platformers in general, hence the "stuff like" part. Including Virtual Console games. And buying the Pro controller is fine (although it hasn't been available anywhere yet for preorder) but kind of defeats the purpose of going mobile with it.