Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
#4401
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Sadly, I think you are right. I know it would never happen, but I wish Nintendo would go balls to the wall and put out a console equal or better than Sony or Microsoft's gaming systems. But they won't, I have accepted this years ago.
#4402
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Yeah, that realization hit after the success of the Wii. Intentionally release an underpowered and cheap to produce console that goes on to rake in billions. They use all that revenue to produce... the WiiU?
#4403
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
You basically said it, and you're exactly right. That's what Nintendo does...they rely on their brand name and that's that...
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Before the Switch, 4 of Nintendo’s top 5 selling platforms were handhelds. As much of a phenomenon as the Wii was, it’s still a distant third behind the DS and Game Boy. The Wii is their only dedicated console to have outsold the NES; aside from the Wii, every dedicated console Nintendo has released has sold worse than the one before it. (NES > SNES > N64 > GameCube > Wii U).
Nintendo is better off running their own race rather than going to the staggering expense of competing head-on with Sony and Microsoft, which history shows is doomed for failure.
A dual-purpose device like the Switch plays to their handheld-first strengths, it doesn’t divide their dev teams’ focus (Nintendo only really seems to be able to meaningfully support one device at a time), and sales would certainly seem to suggest this is a winning strategy.
My Switch is docked 99% of the time. I greatly prefer power over portability, and the tech behind the Switch is looking awfully long in the tooth. But I get why Nintendo is going down this path, and I can’t say I blame them. For that, anyway; I do think they’re being awfully greedy when it comes to pricing anymore, and it’s been a while since they put out a game I’ve been really excited about.
Nintendo is better off running their own race rather than going to the staggering expense of competing head-on with Sony and Microsoft, which history shows is doomed for failure.
A dual-purpose device like the Switch plays to their handheld-first strengths, it doesn’t divide their dev teams’ focus (Nintendo only really seems to be able to meaningfully support one device at a time), and sales would certainly seem to suggest this is a winning strategy.
My Switch is docked 99% of the time. I greatly prefer power over portability, and the tech behind the Switch is looking awfully long in the tooth. But I get why Nintendo is going down this path, and I can’t say I blame them. For that, anyway; I do think they’re being awfully greedy when it comes to pricing anymore, and it’s been a while since they put out a game I’ve been really excited about.
#4405
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Another big aspect is they aren’t looking to create high-end resolution types of games. They’ve firmly stayed in the 1080p realm, and that’s worked very well so far. Although I did wonder why they opted to release an OLED version of the Switch. It’s not an overall improvement from the original release. Plus, I don’t think any of the games are mastered in 4K.
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Hasn’t it become a thing with many gamers to own both the current Nintendo system and then one of the other brands too? Like their hardcore gaming on the Xbox or PlayStation and then something for Mario and Zelda.
Or like us and have all 3 (plus a pc for gaming).
Or like us and have all 3 (plus a pc for gaming).
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Yeah, to me besides exclusives Xbox and PS5 are pretty much the same. Yeah you won't get, like the same version of Madden or COD on the Switch (well, I guess they can with cloud but still downgraded), but the switch would be my third option for those games anyway (especially with the nintendo software prices barely budging compared to other consoles). They do get all the indy/2d titles they can handle which usually run fine. And Nintendo themselves don't have to break the bank trying to develop their own titles.
If they did some voodoo to make the docked version of the Switch 2 run in a more superpowered mode AND made it easy for devs to use, I'd be ecstatic but the status quo is fine to me for now.
If they did some voodoo to make the docked version of the Switch 2 run in a more superpowered mode AND made it easy for devs to use, I'd be ecstatic but the status quo is fine to me for now.
#4411
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Heads up on BF deals for first-party games
Also there will be a Switch bundle with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and 3 months of Nintendo Online for free
https://www.nintendo.com/holiday/#deals
Also there will be a Switch bundle with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and 3 months of Nintendo Online for free
https://www.nintendo.com/holiday/#deals
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#4412
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
brickseek shows the OLED Switch popping up at various Targets, so hopefully I'll be able to track one down for myself before the holidays as a gift to myself.
#4413
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Is the OLED really that big of a draw on a small screen like that?
#4414
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#4415
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
The first device I ever had with an OLED screen was a smartphone with a 4", 480x800 screen, and it made a difference. The Switch OLED is the same 720p resolution as the regular screen, but the image is going to look more colorful and vibrant.
https://www.imore.com/nintendo-switc...ide-comparison
Comparison pic, regular switch on top, OLED on bottom:

https://www.imore.com/nintendo-switc...ide-comparison
The Switch OLED has the same resolution capabilities as previous Switch hybrids: up to 1080p when docked and up to 720p in handheld mode. However, anyone who holds a Switch OLED in their hands and compares it to an original Switch or the Switch V2 will notice a strong difference.
The screen has a far smaller bezel, which does a lot toward making the image that appears look a whole lot bigger. Additionally, the OLED display shows colors off so much more vibrantly with deeper blacks and brighter hues of every gradient, not to mention that lines around characters, words, and objects come through a whole lot sharper than they do on previous Switch displays. I did my best to get a picture of the difference, but images really don't do justice to what it looks like in person.
The screen has a far smaller bezel, which does a lot toward making the image that appears look a whole lot bigger. Additionally, the OLED display shows colors off so much more vibrantly with deeper blacks and brighter hues of every gradient, not to mention that lines around characters, words, and objects come through a whole lot sharper than they do on previous Switch displays. I did my best to get a picture of the difference, but images really don't do justice to what it looks like in person.

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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
#4417
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
The first device I ever had with an OLED screen was a smartphone with a 4", 480x800 screen, and it made a difference. The Switch OLED is the same 720p resolution as the regular screen, but the image is going to look more colorful and vibrant.
https://www.imore.com/nintendo-switc...ide-comparison
Comparison pic, regular switch on top, OLED on bottom:

https://www.imore.com/nintendo-switc...ide-comparison
Comparison pic, regular switch on top, OLED on bottom:

But if you're traveling a lot that would make the experience better.
#4418
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
What we know for sure, however, is that Nintendo plans to launch its next game console with the same "integrated hardware-software" approach it has taken in the past. What that means for you is that Nintendo is going to keep making game consoles (hardware), the operating system that powers them (software), and some of the best games for that console (software).
#4419
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
I have browser tabs open for Walmart and Target, and Walmart showed stock this morning when I got into work, but clicking the "add to cart" button gives me a "Please try again in a moment" pop-up, so it looks like I'm out of luck.
#4420
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Best Buy is doing the same thing with their new program as well.
#4421
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#4422
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Best Buy has Nintendo Gift cards at 10% off today. I picked up a $99 card to add to my account.
#4423
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Best Buy has Nintendo Gift cards at 10% off today. I picked up a $99 card to add to my account.
#4424
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Nice deal. I might get one just to make sure I keep Elite status. Of course they're always that price for Costco members.
#4425
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Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
Nice deal. I might get one just to make sure I keep Elite status. Of course they're always that price for Costco members.




