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lwhy? 05-18-20 03:11 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13743180)
Apologies if this is getting tiresome but switch is in stock at Best buy:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nintend...?skuId=6364255

I missed out on this again... I was able to preorder one on Amazon. It won't ship for 3 to 6 weeks though....

lwhy? 05-18-20 03:31 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
If my order ends up shipping, do you all recommend the Nintendo Pro Controller or are there second party controllers that work just as well? I have heard bad things about the joypads, so I'm definitely buying a controller.

Decker 05-18-20 03:52 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
If you are going to play it docked, the Pro Controller is a must. Worth the difference in price.

fujishig 05-18-20 03:57 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 13743342)
If you are going to play it docked, the Pro Controller is a must. Worth the difference in price.

Pro controller is great, but I find that the 8bitdo Pro + controllers are fine and they frequently go on sale (retail 49.99 but amazon has them on sale for 39.99 pretty often). The one thing they do not do is wake the switch up from sleep. Whether that's worth 20 to 30 bucks is up to you (I do use the Pro Controller the most with the 8bitdo as secondary).


The Questyen 05-18-20 03:57 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I can't even imagine playing my Switch without a pro controller. If you play your system docked they are required.

Adam Tyner 05-18-20 04:04 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13743180)
Apologies if this is getting tiresome but switch is in stock at Best buy:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nintend...?skuId=6364255

Thanks for posting that! I saw it in time to see the 'Add to Cart' button, but it was sold out before I could get an answer from my kid sister as to whether or not she still wanted one / hadn't already gotten one. Hopefully it won't be too much longer until the next round.

lwhy? 05-18-20 04:32 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I will be playing it docked. I'll be buying the Pro. Hopefully my Switch will ship in 3 to 6 weeks.

Michael Corvin 05-18-20 06:19 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
'Eh, I like the split joy cons and I play mostly docked.

The Questyen 05-18-20 06:27 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13743451)
'Eh, I like the split joy cons and I play mostly docked.

Hell no.

fujishig 05-18-20 06:33 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13743451)
'Eh, I like the split joy cons and I play mostly docked.

I don't mind the joycons but man are those things fragile. I'm constantly worried that the sticks will wear out again, especially when my kids use them. Which is ridiculous for how expensive they are.

Decker 05-18-20 06:38 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13743451)
'Eh, I like the split joy cons and I play mostly docked.

What are you, a fucking octopus?

Michael Corvin 05-18-20 08:51 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
:lol: It's no different than a Wiimote and nunchuck.

Maybe if they ever break I'll get a pro controller, but until then I think those are way overpriced. It's a standard controller for $70. Insane. At least $70 for joy cons I can understand given it's technically twice the bluetooth, rumble, batteries, etc. Also depending on the game it's two controllers (like Mario Party).

The Questyen 05-18-20 09:03 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13743534)
:lol: It's no different than a Wiimote and nunchuck.

Maybe if they ever break I'll get a pro controller, but until then I think those are way overpriced. It's a standard controller for $70. Insane. At least $70 for joy cons I can understand given it's technically twice the bluetooth, rumble, batteries, etc. Also depending on the game it's two controllers (like Mario Party).

It's $10 more than a standard ps4 or Xbox controller and they're regularly on sale for $50-60. More than worth it to me. If you just can't afford it than that's understandable.

Edit: I didn't mean if you personally couldn't afford it I meant for people in general than yes the joycons are acceptable.

Decker 05-18-20 09:42 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13743534)
:lol: It's no different than a Wiimote and nunchuck.

You say that without a hint of irony, as if you didn't know that the Wiimote and nunchuck were the worst controlling gaming peripherals this side of the Power Glove and that Mad Catz arcade stick for the 360.

The Cow 05-18-20 09:52 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Wife and I both use the pro controllers. Don't like the joy cons at all.

Michael Corvin 05-18-20 10:40 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 13743562)
You say that without a hint of irony, as if you didn't know that the Wiimote and nunchuck were the worst controlling gaming peripherals this side of the Power Glove and that Mad Catz arcade stick for the 360.

For pointing and motion sure. But simply splitting the joystick in two was a revelation. I love not being stuck with my hands in my lap. It's such a simple thing but having the ability to have both arms on the armrests of the chair is great. Or (this will sound weird) but relaxing with one arm behind my head and still gaming is kinda cool.


Originally Posted by The Questyen (Post 13743541)
It's $10 more than a standard ps4 or Xbox controller and they're regularly on sale for $50-60. More than worth it to me. If you just can't afford it than that's understandable.

And what does that extra $10 get me over the competition? Just a price hike to make up for the blood bath they took on the WiiU. Affording it isn't the issue. I bought a second set of joy cons instead.

fujishig 05-19-20 01:19 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Pro Controller is 59.99 in cart at Walmart.com

Amazon pricematched it for a while but they sold out while Walmart is still in stock (at least right now).

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nintendo-...Black/55485228

slop101 05-19-20 11:14 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13743590)
For pointing and motion sure. But simply splitting the joystick in two was a revelation. I love not being stuck with my hands in my lap. It's such a simple thing but having the ability to have both arms on the armrests of the chair is great. Or (this will sound weird) but relaxing with one arm behind my head and still gaming is kinda cool.

All those are good things that I appreciate, but they don't even come close to making up for how shit shit shitty shit shit the buttons and sticks on the joycons are - the fact that there's split buttons instead of a D-pad alone is a dealbreaker.

Mike86 05-19-20 11:18 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I didn’t find the Joy Cons to be that bad either honestly. Even if they’re all you have there’s the grip, which makes a sorta controller. I used that for a while before buying my Pro. The Pro Controller is nice though. Truthfully though I play way more in handheld mode anyways.

fujishig 05-19-20 11:20 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
To me, it's not about the feel of the joycons (though I do hate the split d-pad), it's that they're so so fragile and expensive.

lwhy? 05-19-20 08:37 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Amazon updated my order to arriving May 21-26. That's a lot sooner than 3 to 6 weeks. I'm going to have to buy some games and accessories now. I think I'm going to start out with Super Mario Odyssey, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, and Animal Crossing. That should keep me busy for awhile.

RichC2 05-19-20 11:05 PM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Yeah i never had an issue with the joycons when attached to the system. Didn't like the two joy-cons as a controller though.

lwhy? 05-20-20 10:11 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I ordered a Pro Controller and Animal Crossing from Best Buy. Do you all use screen protectors on your Switch? How big of a memory card should I get?

fujishig 05-20-20 10:32 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I use the amfilm glass screen protector on both of my switches:

no complaints.

Memory card depends on how many digital games you plan to buy and which ones.
Unlike PS4 and Xbox, for most games if you buy physical it's contained on the card, with some exceptions. Saves are stored on system memory anyway.

Most 1st party games are astonishingly great at minimizing the space needed even for digital downloads. But if you buy something like NBA 2k, it's going to take a massive amount of space.

The 400GB seems to go for around 59.99, with the 512 being prohibitively more, so at this point I think that's probably the sweet spot unless you really don't think you'll need that much space and want to go smaller
.

Edited to add: To give you an idea, these are the top space-taking games on my switch lite:
NBA 2k19: 35.7 gigs
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate: 15.4
Ys VIII: 14.7
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: 14.7
Hyrule Warriors: 12.9
Tokyo Mirage Sessions: 11.2
Valkyria Chronicles 4: 11.1
World of Final Fantasy Maxima: 10.7
Pokemon Sword: 10.2

Animal crossing, for instance, is only 6.7 GB, Mario Kart is 6.8, Splatoon 2 is 8.1. Relatively tiny. But I've still almost filled up a 512 GB. Because of the space limitations, size is one of the first things I look at when deciding on a game. Something like the Witcher, I think I'd rather just get the physical cart and not take up so much space on the card.

lwhy? 05-20-20 10:54 AM

Re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13744375)
I use the amfilm glass screen protector on both of my switches:
https://www.amazon.com/amFilm-Temper.../dp/B01N3ASPNV

no complaints.

Memory card depends on how many digital games you plan to buy and which ones.
Unlike PS4 and Xbox, for most games if you buy physical it's contained on the card, with some exceptions. Saves are stored on system memory anyway.

Most 1st party games are astonishingly great at minimizing the space needed even for digital downloads. But if you buy something like NBA 2k, it's going to take a massive amount of space.

The 400GB seems to go for around 59.99, with the 512 being prohibitively more, so at this point I think that's probably the sweet spot unless you really don't think you'll need that much space and want to go smaller
.

Edited to add: To give you an idea, these are the top space-taking games on my switch lite:
NBA 2k19: 35.7 gigs
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate: 15.4
Ys VIII: 14.7
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: 14.7
Hyrule Warriors: 12.9
Tokyo Mirage Sessions: 11.2
Valkyria Chronicles 4: 11.1
World of Final Fantasy Maxima: 10.7
Pokemon Sword: 10.2

Animal crossing, for instance, is only 6.7 GB, Mario Kart is 6.8, Splatoon 2 is 8.1. Relatively tiny. But I've still almost filled up a 512 GB. Because of the space limitations, size is one of the first things I look at when deciding on a game. Something like the Witcher, I think I'd rather just get the physical cart and not take up so much space on the card.

Thanks! I still buy mostly physical games so I can sell them and get some money back if I don't like them. I'll buy digital games if they're $20 or less. Edited to add. Does that tempered glass work for the 2019 version too?


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