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pinata242 04-15-16 09:42 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 12777768)
GW is a good deal harder, and I'm only through node 6. It's amazing to me the devs do not see a problem with your protection dropping but the AI having full protection at the start of a match. Tone deaf idiot motherfuckers.

Here's the thing about GW now:

My Protection cannot regenerate, but every battle starts with the other team at full? Fine.

There are 5 enemies/node and 12 nodes so that 60 enemies in total. There are more than 60 characters in the game.

Stop assigning random player squads to the nodes but instead go to a scaling random team from the entire roster or characters. The caveat, then, is that no enemy should appear twice. If I kill Sidious in node 1, he cannot come back in node 12.

This is more in the spirit of the GW and it puts us on equal footing. Make me keep rotating my team to keep them fresh. If they die, they die. Remove the ability to retreat or force quit by "killing" my characters until they survive the battle. This way starting requires finishing.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 09:51 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Based on my run through so far with GW, let me offer some strategies:

1) Do not use any healers on your team until your protection wears off. There's nothing to heal until that happens and you should be trying to burst damage your way through these rounds as quickly as possible.

2) Start with your C team if possible, but no more than your B team.

3) If you don't have Barriss, you need to get her by any means necessary. Even a 4* G7 Barriss will save your bacon.

Prepare to spend another 20-30 minutes in GW. On top of the usual time you spend.

What mobile game should take 60 minutes to play every day? Come on...

pinata242 04-15-16 10:12 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I did notice that (my borrowed) Barriss was more useful than I thought. The nice thing is that since she normalizes the health for the team, all of those with protection are at 100% health so anyone that has dipped basically gets fully healed.

Time to re-double my efforts for her.

pinata242 04-15-16 10:13 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
But this can't be what the developers want, right? Everyone to have Barriss and Phasma?

Put Boba's leader ability with Phasma's Advantage and you have a death squad.

JuryDuty 04-15-16 10:16 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 12777805)
But this can't be what the developers want, right? Everyone to have Barriss and Phasma?

Put Boba's leader ability with Phasma's Advantage and you have a death squad.

Surely not. And not to hammer home the point about us "newer" players, but c'mon, what are we supposed to do? I can't even get Barriss yet. I can't play any of the special events. I can't make it through half the challenges now. And, even though I had a team that could make it through GW, I'm now losing characters at node 4 no matter what I try to do. They really need to rethink this as, AFAIK, this is supposed to be fun, not a daily exercise in frustration.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 10:19 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 12777805)
But this can't be what the developers want, right? Everyone to have Barriss and Phasma?

Put Boba's leader ability with Phasma's Advantage and you have a death squad.

You are so, so right. I really wish I had farmed Boba now. Phasma guarantees crits. Boba increases crit by 50%.

But yet, they say they do not want a one shot DPS game. That's exactly what you have.

Game sucks now. Only way to change it is to stop spending.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 10:21 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by JuryDuty (Post 12777809)
Surely not. And not to hammer home the point about us "newer" players, but c'mon, what are we supposed to do? I can't even get Barriss yet. I can't play any of the special events. I can't make it through half the challenges now. And, even though I had a team that could make it through GW, I'm now losing characters at node 4 no matter what I try to do. They really need to rethink this as, AFAIK, this is supposed to be fun, not a daily exercise in frustration.

You can hard farm her in DS 5 on two nodes, but that will take a long time. But your real issue is that her Catina node on 6 was buffed through the damn roof. That's where I got most of my shards for her after getting a lucky bronze pull.

I agree with your sentiment. Two hours a day, I just don't have it.

The App store rating has crashed to the ground. The Play store is still up there but they must take things differently than Apple does. I think Apple rates by version and Google is an overall rating. It's going to be impossible to overcome 500k 5* ratings anytime soon.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 10:26 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
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meer 04-15-16 10:27 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 12777772)
Another strategy would be to run Phasma lead to get off extra shots and JC and Talia for heals with any other DPS you have.

Also, Ewok Elder is very good in this situation. Mine is only a 4* but purple geared, it lasts for a bit :)

pinata242 04-15-16 10:39 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 12777805)
But this can't be what the developers want, right? Everyone to have Barriss and Phasma?

Put Boba's leader ability with Phasma's Advantage and you have a death squad.

So, a perfect team now would be what?

Boba (L) - Everyone + 50% crit damage
Phasma - Everyone Advantage for guaranteed crit on next attack
- AoE and speed down
Lando - AoE, cooldown reset
- AoE + 50% damage

Who else fits in? Just more AoE? Turn meter modifiers? Taunting Tank?

ST Han might make sense since he's two of those but he has no attack to speak of.

Poe at least brings expose to the table and a decent attack.

Ackbar could be multi-purpose with 100% turn meter granting and dispelling.

Daka for stuns and the occasional passive or active revives.

pinata242 04-15-16 10:50 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
At least according to http://swgoh.gg/characters/stats/#2 the speed there makes sense. Poe > STHan > Phasma > Lando > Boba

Poe's taunt removes enemy turn meter thereby speeding up your team slightly. Then STHan steps up. So the enemy must hit one of those two or use an AoE. Either way, if Han is hit, your team gets more turn meter. Then Phamsa hits advantage + more turn meter. Eventually Lando comes up and wrecks. Boba would be last with his own AoE.

I may try that even though I haven't invested in Lando. Boba, Poe, and STHan need work. Phasma is maxed.

Maybe I'll use Daka or another slower-than-Phasma AoE instead of STHan, like IG-88. The only problem with IG-88 is that he's the same speed as Phasma making it a coin flip which goes first. Magmatrooper?

So, in conclusion:

Boba (L)
Poe
Phasma
Lando
IG-88/Magma or STHan or Daka

DVD Josh 04-15-16 11:04 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Forgot all about Lando. Yeah he's a beast in this situation.

Rob V 04-15-16 12:11 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I gotta say, this game went from a super fun time burner / addiction to the most frustrating piece of shit on the planet. How many FUCKING times can my arena opponent "dodge" or "deflect" an attack? I was dodged 6 out of 7 attacks on a JC. Fire up the game today and a very similar result.
Ridiculous... I can't see playing this much longer. I also hate the new health meters.

story 04-15-16 12:13 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Ugh, the update has broken the game. I think I might be done.

Stormtrooper Han used taunt and was the only target I could hit for THREE ROUNDS because healers kept boosting him back up. Has Han ALWAYS been able to taunt for THREE ROUNDS in a row?!

I don't have Bariss, Phasma, Lando, any of these characters you're all talking about. Just when I was getting the hang of things and starting to get a Level 7 team, the game switched on me. The gear challenge is impossible, GW is tougher than ever, and Arena is a crapshoot.

I honestly try not to complain much, and today I'm pretty frustrated by the changes and I don't really see them as changes worth enduring, though I think Groucho is right that I will stick it out for Guilds and see what happens. For now, there's no way I'd spend money on this game at this point.

pinata242 04-15-16 12:22 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.star...eedback#latest

This is an okay read. I get the point, but I think they painted themselves into a corner by not planning the game out better from the beginning. Now you have people wailing and gnashing their teeth about "wasted" effort on characters they won't use anymore while having to scramble to bring up another team.

I get it.

But they should have done something better to create tiers of characters and force a more mixed team composition. Or a strict team combination.

It's going to suck for a while as we adapt, but I think, in the end, it'll be good for the game.

Like Groucho, I'm going to keep on keepin' on at least until Guilds and Raids and other stuff come up.

Arena is just a necessary evil. That's going to be where a lot of my experimentation is. GW has been my bread & butter historically. It's going to be a lot tougher, but I'm going to have to change from just using my A team to win it. Shouldn't be a huge deal to cope with.

pinata242 04-15-16 12:59 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Oh, geez, you can't even remove Phasma's advantage by hitting the enemy twice now? You're right that she must be the first one downed every match now.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 01:17 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
GW has taken me close to two hours today. Ridiculous.

The good news is that if you use Lumi's heal over time, it will definitely cool down by your next round.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 01:48 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I feel fortunate I have the comp I do. How does anyone with a small roster do this?

pinata242 04-15-16 02:24 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I have a very good roster too (Barriss aside) and I'm getting smoked in GW today. It's totally broken.

If the enemies are going to be of comparable level, then Protection needs to refill. Otherwise, they need to completely rework the seeding.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 02:33 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
GW was a nightmare. You (the royal you) really need to change your strategy. I wouldn't even use my A team at all until Node 4 if at all possible.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 02:51 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Sad day. QGJ has been removed from my Arena team. Now rocking:

Dooku(L) for evasion/stuns
Phasma for Advantage/TM
86 DPS
GS DPS
Daka for stuns

pinata242 04-15-16 03:01 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
On the plus side, today's Omega event is letting me use QGJ (L), Yoda, and Mace. All 7* and L74. G9, G9, G8.

Total destruction.

19K 04-15-16 03:23 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Well I almost finished a 2nd consecutive GW post-patch. Made it to the very last node, but I don't have any characters left above level 40 so I'm done for today. Not happening against an all 73's team. I do believe they F'd up somewhere with this latest update. It really seems unbalanced and the game is now frustrating beyond belief. Hopefully there's enough outrage on the forums to spark some hotfixes. I can't imagine there's too many people out there (other than EA) that actually think the game got better.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 04:07 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
John Scalara seems to think so but he's a fucking idiot.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 04:17 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
So obviously everything is about money with EA but what they are really trying to do is force you to have more synergistic teams. Facing a droid team? No problem, just use your full power Jawa squad (all two of them) with Eeth (who I hope you got). And so on. The point is to get you to spend, spend, spend until you have the full team full power comps you need to survive.

Fuck that noise. I'm happy to be F2P until I see what guilds bring. Then we'll see.

bippitty 04-15-16 05:12 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I'm not waiting. I deleted all allies so that I'm not clogging anyone's list. I deleted the game. Just waiting on my refund request.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 05:14 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by bippitty (Post 12778276)
I'm not waiting. I deleted all allies so that I'm not clogging anyone's list. I deleted the game. Just waiting on my refund request.

I understand and don't blame you. Would you please mind telling me if you are IOS or Android, and what reason you gave for the refund request (and then following up if you got it?). Thanks and we enjoyed having you in the thread.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 05:45 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Running AGI challenge on auto now to see what happens.

DVD Josh 04-15-16 05:47 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Well that was interesting. The AI did much better than I do. Won it easily. Team comp was:

Barriss(L)
PTL
QGJ
Phasma
Daka

Oh and actually got 3 hairdryers this time instead of 2!

This game, lol...

pinata242 04-15-16 10:02 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I don't get it. This isn't a "game" anyway. It's a collection simulator. What have people been doing these last 5 months if not building a roster? Yes we all focused on specific characters because that's what the meta dictated. They changed the meta. The reasoning is to bring more balance. I can't speak to Android, but on iOS this is v0.3.4. We are the beta testers. The guinea pigs. I have only spent $42 on this game and I don't feel ripped off (yet). I knew what I was doing and I haven't spent since. No big deal.

This update and the direction is supposed to encourage diversity. Isn't that what we want? A personal dream team of characters that can hold their own. Maybe not permanently because defense AI sucks, but enough that we know how to win with our teams?

I don't understand the uproar, especially from the F2P market other than it being a slog to upgrade characters and now those classic characters are no longer the top tier. I literally just super-maxed QGJ and now he's apparently useless. Big deal. He's there for the next change or the next event that needs him. It's not like I was going to quit farming others. In fact, this has given me new direction when I was just sort of meandering about getting everyone in GW up to 5/6* or unlocking everyone in Arena to get Vader shards.

In PVP they are single matches. Your team can handle the climb, but they may not keep the rung. So? Do you want to sit at #1 every day? Do you want to cram your playing into a specific 45-60 minute window when only 15 of that is actually doing anything?

Events and challenges are the same: single fights. You learn them, you adapt, you conquer. Then you get bored.

The only thing I think is truly unfair by this change is GW, but, again, you're supposed to want a full and diverse roster anyway so the more characters you recruit and upgrade, the further you will go. I have made my feelings about this known and I have no doubt they'll "fix" it somehow. Most likely by allowing Protection regeneration or betting enemy matching. It'll come.

Other than that, it's the first jarring step on the path to (hopefully) make something worth playing every day. What was it last week?

Guilds and raids are on the horizon. We wanted new content and it's coming. Does the rebalancing hurt? Yes. Does that make it unplayable? I don't think that's something anyone can really justify on day #1.

JuryDuty 04-15-16 10:36 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Well, having messed around with it on-and-off today, I'm feeling a bit better about it. It's still broken and they'll need to fix some stuff, and I'm ticked that I can't even play the event content because I don't have enough characters yet BUT...

Ultimately, I'm solely F2P and over time I'll have more characters and these issues will resolve themselves. I still enjoy this more than most other games I've played. I just hope they fix things sooner than later and that the guild stuff is fun. We'll see...

Deadman31 04-15-16 11:05 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I just got a bunch of messages in my inbox saying they were sorry for some technical difficulties. Lots of free gear, money and crystals.

pinata242 04-15-16 11:16 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
250 crystals and a couple of rare gear. Not bad for nothing. 25 free purple hairdryers is a good week's work.

I wonder what the restart fixed. TO THE FORUMS!

pinata242 04-15-16 11:19 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Spoiler:
We pushed out an update tonight that adjusted the difficulty of challenges, making them more in line with the difficulty they were prior to the update.

Because there were so many players who were unable to complete the Strength and Agility Challenges yesterday and today, we sent out max rewards for all tiers to each player.

We increase the speed of combat animations for both manual and auto throughout the game to be the same as Galactic War. The combat animation speeds in Galactic War are currently the fastest we have in the game. This should assist with Arena battles that were going past the 5 minute timer, and also make the game feel faster overall.

While we will not be making any changes tonight to Galactic War, we have heard your feedback and will be discussing possible adjustments that we can make in order to make the experience more enjoyable for players. More information on this next week.

Full update notes will be posted as soon as they go live this evening.


TL;DR

Challenges adjusted to be easier

All Strength Challenge Rewards from yesterday (ed: and AGI from today) sent to all players

Arena battle speed is increased to match the speed in Galactic War

Galactic War balancing being discussed by dev team - See? Told ya.

JuryDuty 04-15-16 11:26 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Holy cow! That was a surprise. Tons of free materials. SO glad to see they're making adjustments fast.

pinata242 04-15-16 11:36 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
It's nice but, let's be real, most of it was just junk. I have literally hundreds of most of those and at least one is approaching 1k.

meer 04-16-16 07:51 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I agree with pinata - apart from the purple hair dryers, nothing else was worth collecting....

On a separate note,
Does anyone know how to make my android phone to connect with Google so that I am able to change my name from "Mol Eliza" to something more interesting? :)

story 04-16-16 08:24 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I don't want to be looking for things to complain about after the update, so let me ask my question this way? Before the update, was it common in Arena before the update to have a stunned character with slow-down on them DODGE an entire round's worth of attacks? Because that keeps happening to me.

pinata242 04-16-16 10:30 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
They've been able to dodge before, regardless of state. I remember reading the devs say they were discussing it.

If Dooku was the leader, the extra evasion is probably killing you.

I believe I have noticed an animation error where an AoE attack that is dodged by the targeted character applies damage to others but they don't "wince" because the targeted one doesn't. I'm not 100% sure about that, though, it was just once.

JuryDuty 04-16-16 06:08 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by meer (Post 12778611)
I agree with pinata - apart from the purple hair dryers, nothing else was worth collecting....

On a separate note,
Does anyone know how to make my android phone to connect with Google so that I am able to change my name from "Mol Eliza" to something more interesting? :)

meer--on Reddit people say you just have to click on Support on the ingame menu and send them a message asking to change your name to what you want. They'll do it within a couple days.


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