Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

hey Chess,

I'm Rank 2, finally!

My Carrier is done, level 8 ish, vacuum mod and that shotgun mod from the alert the other day.

I did the 3 alerts. Those took a while as my PUGs were horrible last night. The alert on Mercury took me 4 times each with a different group before we beat it. What a PIA. LOL

I have most of the resources for Rhino Prime. IIRC, the ones I need are on the planets I don't have access to yet so may need your help or I will try the /w trick.

Thanks

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Congrats on mastery 2! Hopefully I'll catch you tonight or early tomorrow morning to give you some gifts. :)

Carrier is awesome. You'll want to get that vacuum mod maxed, because he'll grab a lot of stuff for you.

You'll also want to put that Hell's Chamber mod on his shotgun. All of the "multi shot" mods (Hell's Chamber, Split Chamber, Barrel Diffusion, Lethal Torrent) are kind of a big deal. They literally turn one bullet into two or three, so they greatly increase your DPS and your ammo efficiency. They're usually the second mod you'll put on a gun after increasing its base damage.

Glad you knocked out the alerts. Those are critical mods, and Fleeting and Blind Rage can be tough to get under normal circumstances. Tonight's alerts aren't that useful for you in the short term, but if you get them, you'll be glad you did later.

On accessing planets and farming resources: The way I understand getting planets added to your nav screen in the new UI is that you have to beat the boss of the prior planet to get the coordinate added for the next planet. So I plan to do some infrastructure work with you to get all of the planets opened up and to get you access to the go-to farming spots for Orokin Cells, Neural Sensors, Morphics and credits along with a few other key elements. It will basically consist of dragging you through 10ish boss fights, but the good news is that those runs are almost all under 5 minutes.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Actually, with a bit of luck, we'll only need to do a couple of boss fights to open up Jupiter, Ceres, Pluto and Mars.

We'll experiment.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Cool, looking forward to it. Also, I know I'm low on credits but I need a new melee weapon since I maxed my other one. Any suggestions? Spend some credits now to get a BP cooking? Preferably a weapon to get the other trophies.
Thanks

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

All of the "keeper" melee weapons are Primes other than the Galatine, so it's another case of simply leveling something up for mastery.

I'd have to look back at the trophies, but I think there's one for sword (which you've done), one for polearm, hammer, gauntlets, etc. So anything but a sword, I guess. Earlier, I suggested the Ankyros or similar because they're pretty cheap to build.

There's also a good chance that you'll pick up one of the multiple melee weapon BPs that drop in alerts.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Update:
As you know, my TV's DLP bulb burned out, should be replaced by Wed.

Warframe:

• Mastery Rank 3. This was the easiest one yet as I was able to equip a Stance on my Skana (plus it is Rank30). I was slicing thru mobs like a hot knife to butter.
• Ankyros built and equipped.
• One level away from Rank30 on Excal.
• Missed out on Sunday's Alerts due to TV issue but got a lot of good stuff from it this week.
• My credits are low again, maybe around 25k.
• Leveled up the Vacuum mod on my Carrier to Level 4. One more to go. "Suck, suck, suck, suck!" (quote from Space Balls)

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Nice work! It's really too bad about Sunday's alerts, but if you got everything through Friday, you definitely got some key stuff. You're just at a point where you could really use a Catalyst, and you'll probably want to Forma Rhino Prime the second you get him to 30. And I've never seen alerts for an already built Catalyst or Forma. That's a big savings in resources and credits on top of being a very rare alert.

You should have access to a couple of decent primaries now (Karak and Grakata), and at mastery rank 4, you'll have access to a few primary guns that I think you'll like even more. The Boltor is a machine gun that shoots cross-bow bolts, and the Sobek is a pretty solid low-mid level shotgun. Neither should get a Catalyst, but I think you'll have fun with them at lower levels.

You really need to get another frame cooking. Ideally it would be a frame that you can buy a Reactor for in good conscience...either Rhino Prime or Nova. I think that once you have a good frame with a reactor, you'll find that the game just opens up for you. As far as credits go, we need to set you up with access to a good farming spot so you can get Rhino started, but once you have Rhino, you can freeload keys off of the recruiting chat.

I don't think the plan has changed substantially. You don't even have enough credits to make the trades we need to make (there's a "tax" depending on the rarity of the item), so credits will be the first order of business. I want to get Ceres opened up for you, and if things work the way I think they do, you may have the solar rail open already (can't remember whether we ran that one or Pluto). The Ceres solar rail (Semeini?) will net you ~20K credits per 5-wave defense, and if you take the time to break all the containers, you should average an Orokin Cell about every other run. We'll run that enough to make the trades we need to make, and then we'll figure out what materials and credits you need to get Rhino started and farm them. Then I'll probably go to bed and leave you to progress.

This is all subject to you having a functioning TV, of course. :)

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

LOL, thanks Chess. I know, my TV clonked out at the wrong time! I should have most of the resources to make Rhino Prime, other than credits and maybe Morphics; so hopefully not too much farming. Yeah, I need a good credit farm spot I can do on my own as the missions I ran over the weekend were not awarding many at all.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

For my part, even on short breaks from Destiny, I managed to get in on all of the important alerts: Kubrow Egg, Bite, Hammershot, Blaze, Blind Rage, Narrow Minded, Fleeting Expertise, Crimson Dervish, Tranquil Cleave, Gleaming Talon, Forma, and Orokin Catalyst. It was smart of them to do that during Destiny week. It shows a level of confidence in their game. :up:

Those last two alerts are up for another three hours BTW.

I also cooked two Kubrows this week. The first was a pretty uninteresting Sunika, and the second has badass dark gray and white full-body zebra stripes, but I'm not positive about his breed yet or whether he'll be tall or stocky.

Having spent enough time in Destiny to get to about level 21, I feel that I can say definitively that Warframe is a better game.

• More interesting and varied characters
• More interesting and varied powers
• Faster, more compelling gameplay, both shooting and movement
• More varied game types (extermination, survival, defense, capture, rescue, interception, spy, deception, etc.)
• Deeper, more thought provoking customization with the Mod system
• Better character customization (colors and accessories)
• Far better weapon variety and customization
• Better crafting system
• Sharper textures, reflection and lighting
• Less time in loading screens
• Hell, I even think the lore is more interesting
• Didn't cost me $90

Don't get me wrong, I'm mostly enjoying my time in Destiny, and the art design is nothing short of amazing, but I really don't think it will hold my attention like Warframe has.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Pulling this over from PM...

Yeah, Buzz acted as a third party to transfer the Rhino Prime parts from my account, and he even chipped in one of his own (systems). He also contributed a couple of mods (Streamline and Serration), but we ended up getting them later while farming. He also helped farm the Neural Sensors, Plastids and Morphics.

Summary from yesterday:

• Orokin Catalyst
• Barely missed the Forma :(
• Got Rhino Prime parts traded and farmed resources
• Got a few key random mod drops while farming Saturn (Streamline, Serration, Hornet Strike)
• Took out the Stalker and got a Dread blueprint
• Rhino Prime parts cooking
• Will start the frame this afternoon, and he'll be done Friday afternoon
• Invited you to the NeoGAF clan, which will give you access to weapons and trades
• Opened up a few planets (Ceres, Saturn, Neptune) and a few key farming nodes (more on that) with the help of a dude on recruiting
• Ran a few towers for credits and prime parts

Not bad for ~4 hours of play!

For your reference for future farming purposes:

• Credits (~20K) and Orokin Cells - Semeini Ceres (open, leave at wave 5 and repeat)
• Neural Sensors - Themisto Jupiter (open, but you'll need help)
• Morphics - Hellas Mars (open, probably solo with Rhino Prime)
• Plastids - Helene Saturn (open, usually has randoms on it)

Just a note that Semeini isn't always accessible for farming. It's owned by an alliance/clan, and when it's under attack from another, it's a different mission type. Usually open though.

So the game has bounty hunters, and you get marked for various activities. When you're marked, they have a 1.5% chance of showing up when you're in the right mission type, increasing by .5% for each marked player on the squad. The ones you saw were the Gustrag 3, who mark you for siding with the Corpus during invasions.

The Stalker marks you for killing bosses. You get notes (you now have one) that say "your actions have consequences", and he can show up any time after that. He came after Diecast while we were farming the last of your Morphics, and we took him down (harder than it sounds).

When any of the bounty hunters goes down, they have a chance to drop weapon parts or weapons. In this case, the Stalker dropped his bow, called the Dread, which is the most common of his weapon drops.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Thanks very much Chess and Buzz!

No, not bad at all. ;) Thanks!

Can't wait to try everything out. Good to know about the Bounty Hunters and Stalkers. Like I said, I had no clue what was going on but it was awesome.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

It's no problem, and I look forward to discussing your progress here. I just wanted to get you in a position that you could get off to a solid start on your own since our gaming times don't line up terribly well. My advice for you when you get back on is to continue leveling stuff up for mastery. At mastery rank 6, you'll have access to build a gun called "Soma", which is where you'll want to use one of your two Catalysts. Having a go-to gun will open things up considerably.

As for what to level up in the meantime, you always want to have the "next thing" ready to go before you hit 30 on the current thing. In hindsight, I wish I'd had you build a regular Rhino. Just didn't think it would take us this long to get Rhino Prime going. I certainly could have used a regular Rhino yesterday!!!

Frames: Buy Rhino Prime a Reactor the minute you get him. I'll help you get Nova parts the next time we cross paths, and I suspect you'll want to buy her a Reactor as well. Meanwhile, it wouldn't hurt to build your vanilla Rhino, just to rank him up for mastery and sell him. You'll find he's pretty usable at low level even without a Reactor. After that, you should start farming up Primes, starting with Frost and then Loki. Loki Prime is better, but he's a little harder to get. And don't forget Vauban. Now that you have a good credit source, he's absolutely worthwhile.

Primaries: Your Grakata is building, so level that up and maybe start cooking a Karak for your next gun. When you hit mastery 4, build the Boltor and/or the Sobek.

Secondaries: Keep buying the ones you can get for credits. Think you still have the Lex to go. You should build the Kunai (throwing knives) at some point.

Melee: Build whatever is cheapest in terms of resources. There simply are no potato-worthy melee weapons that aren't Primes or Dojo weapons other than maybe the Galatine, and even that's debateable with the new melee system.

Sentinel: I think Shade is pretty good for early game stuff. Will help keep you out of trouble with invisibility. Dethcube is cool too...because he's like a companion cube...but with Deth.

Prime weapons: When you're ready to hit some towers, which should be soon with Rhino Prime, focus on the drop locations for Bronco Prime (one of the best secondaries in the game), Boltor Prime (probably the best primary in the game) and Orthos Prime (solid melee weapon, and I got you the handle already). The catch: These all cost 10 Orokin Cells to build.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

I gave this another chance last night and I am slowly warming to it.

I bought Destiny... and have been enjoying it because it is beautiful but the lack of a story and the grinding while seemingly getting nowhere is kind of tiring. I played tons of CoD and Titanfall so doing the same maps repeatedly is typically right up my alley but for some reason Destiny seemed a touch soulless. At first I thought the same thing about Warframe, to be honest, but after playing another handful of missions I feel like I understand the story better.

So I am going to give it a little more attention... even though it is exceedingly confusing.

So some newbie questions:

Is the game playable solo? I don't know what I am doing and sometimes just want to log in, grind out some kills, not wear a headset etc. Can I work my way through the missions slowly that way?

I'm playing the Volt frame. Do you eventually get other weapons? I am basically running with a bow, some throwing daggers, a sword of some sort and the ability to click a stick and shock people. I am greatly enjoying sniping with a bow and then shanking people with a dagger. Was the Volt a good choice?

I am not averse to spending some money and buying a new frame or whatnot. If I want to stab things is there one in particularly you would recommend? Especially with a free game I am more willing to drop money on stuff and give the developer something back.

And I will be trolling the wiki soon to find out things like how to use all these cards I am getting and what in the world you guys are talking about when you mention "alerts." :lol:

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

It's absolutely playable solo, but the maps aren't really balanced for it, so if you're playing solo, you'll need to grind a bit here and there to keep up with the difficulty levels.

Playing without a headset isn't a big deal, and the game will matchmake you with help with no real penalty.

Yes, if you continue playing, you will get literally hundreds of different weapons...everything from bows and knives to flamethrowers and rocket launchers.

Of the current starter frames, it's a toss-up between Volt and Mag, and I'd lean toward Volt just because there's a "Prime" version of Mag that you can get later. I think you made a good choice with Volt.

If you like the bows and melee, I think you'd have fun with several different frames. I lean toward Loki Prime for his invisibility, but you can't really buy him. You could buy a regular Loki, but I wouldn't recommend that either. [edit to note: it's kind of amazing that the best frames and weapons are not purchasable with real money isn't it?]

If you want to reward the devs, I'd recommend waiting and buying some cosmetic stuff later. In the short term, the only things you should spend platinum on (and your free starter plat will be enough) is slots for frames and weapons and Orokin Reactors/Catalysts. Every frame and every weapon in the game is farmable and craftable, and you get access to them at about the time you should. And really, that process of farming and building is kind of the heart of the game.

Reading the discussion between Gooter and me over the last couple of pages will probably help you understand some of this stuff. Warframe can definitely be overwhelming at first, but it boils down to a few key themes:

• The game isn't about narrative, it's about progression, loot, crafting and customizing. There is lore, but it's largely unexplained, which makes it more interesting IMO.
• Everything levels up (your profile, each frame, each weapon, sentinels, mods, etc.)
• Everything can be used independently regardless of level. Want to put a level 30 beast gun on your new frame? No problem.
• Mods are the real highlight of the game. They are the "skill tree". They enhance the abilities of everything in the game, and there's a real art to balancing their effects.

Alerts are random missions that pop up with specific rewards, usually just credits, but often mods, alternate helmets, blueprints, or other useful stuff.

I'm happy to help you get started with a guided tour anytime.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Cool. I don't mind grinding. I am a CoD player. :lol: And I played fighting games back in the arcade era. Grinding is second nature.


That is pretty cool. Will keep an eye on sales. And can absolutely foresee picking up cosmetic stuff.

I have been reading the discussion but without a context for the vocabulary it is kind of like someone talking Warhammer 40k at you. Lots of words that don't make sense without prior knowledge.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. You are Chess. I am playing on an Xbox. Aren't we supposed to automatically harass one another, throw tomatoes, and have gang fights like West side Story? Are you a Shark or a Jet? ;)

And thanks. I am sure I will be back for advice.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

EDIT - Aww, Chess beat me to it! ;)

Yay! My turn to help someone out however I am no expert, that would be Chess and Buzz. :D

I felt the exact same way at first. It is not very noob friendly and you will be lost and confused for awhile. What helps? Honestly, reading the wiki, grouping with Chess, Buzz, and now myself, re-read this thread, and just play the game. It will come to you slowly but it will start to make sense.

Yes, some missions can be done solo but grouping is preferred, even random pugs. Missions can be completed faster and easier, loot is not shared as each person sees only their loot. There really is no reason not to group.

However, there is a 'catch-22'.... starting out you don't know what to do, your frame and weapons are weak, and some of the mission types are hard to solo (defense, infestation) versus grouping where groups fly thru missions, often leaving you behind since they are more familar with the game. My advice is to first try to group with Chess, Buzz, or myself. We will take our time and explain things along the way. Then, when you are more comfortable, group away!

Yes, you get other weapons via blueprints/foundry or market later. However, one of the main points of Warframe is to level each weapon, frame, sentinel, etc fully and then move on to the next. Eventually, you will get a Prime version of a weapon and that will be your go to weapon. Chess can explain better.

Yes, Volt is a good starter choice in fact I wish I would have chosen Volt (I chose Excalibur). Volt's shield ability seems pretty good too.

Sorry, don't know off hand which frame is a stabby kind. Basically, level up Volt to Rank30, but prior to that, start thinking about the next frame you want to try and farm the blueprints and resources for it so you are ready to go when Volt reaches 30.

Yes, wiki is essential. Also, there are two iOS apps for Warframe. One for alerts and the other, the wiki. Alerts are special missions that award you credits, blueprints, items, mods, etc. They appear randomly and have a finite duration (typically an hour). 'Cards' as you say are mods that allow you to increase the power of your frames, weapons, etc. and grant you new abilities. They are the bread and butter of Warframe.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Do they allow seamless transition between PC and PS4 yet? Is that even in the plans? Or do you still have to do a one time transfer from one platform to another?

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

To be clear, there are a few things in the game that would be difficult to do solo, and there are a few that are impossible. But for the most part, with the right frame and the right weapons, both set up with the right mods, you can survive damn near anything. If you're planning to solo a lot, I'd suggest Rhino Prime or Loki Prime...the former being more straightforward than the latter.

What you're going to find is that the early levels have tons of randoms playing through low level stuff, and farther out you get, the fewer people there are playing the levels. So learning to get through stuff solo early in the game is probably good, because if you don't make some friends or join a clan, you'll probably have to solo a lot of late stuff regardless.

All that said, and I can't emphasize this enough, finishing every node on every planet isn't what the game is about. There literally is no end story...just a solar system in some state of balance and a bunch of Tenno (players) doing their thing. The only real utility of doing the nodes is so you have them open for farming and alerts.

LOL. I try to translate into English, but yeah, I understand that this stuff is confusing. It's probably best to just dive in and ask questions as you go. There's a 99.9% chance that I'll be able to answer/advise you on anything in the game.

:wave:

:lol: Happy to help. The game is incredibly deep, but once you understand 10-15 basic concepts, you'll be off and running.

And glad it's on Xbox now. These guys deserve all the exposure they can get for making one of my favorite games ever. Be patient with them on a new platform though. It's a small team and they aren't immune to bugs.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Loki does quadruple melee damage while invisible. It's kind of hilarious to watch guys get mysteriously sliced in half out of nowhere. The downside is that he's super squishy, but you can pretty much stay invisible if you give him enough duration and efficiency via mods.

Any of the "tanky" frames or frames that do crowd control are solid melee choices too...Rhino, Trinity, Zephyr and Frost being the most tanky and Nova, Nyx, Vauban and Rhino having solid crowd control (yes, Rhino is both). And I don't fully understand her, but supposedly, you can build Valkyr out to be a melee beast with the right combo of mods.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Glad to be of help. Chess has help me so much that if he asks for help I don't question it.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

What are the names of the iOS apps for Warframe. I typically have my iPad next to me while playing to check email or do some of the Smartglass stuff in other games... so those sound handy!

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Warframe Alerts: Just checked, and Xbone is in there. Can set this to notify you for specific types of alerts.

Wikia Guide - Warframe Edition: It's a wiki. Works great.

The Warframe Nexus is the official app, but it's more or less worthless.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

As far as I know, this fell by the wayside. Or I might have just missed it.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Well that's a bummer. I had a feeling they wouldn't be able to accomplish this with how frequently the game receives updates.

Re: Warframe (PC, PS4, XB1) - Ninjas Play Free
 

Browsing the wiki now. Thanks for the app recommendation.

The Mirage frame looks like a ton of fun.