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starseed1981 01-10-14 09:58 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
So basically this is a cash grab ala GT5 Prologue? Konami must really be hurting.

redrum 02-04-14 07:50 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Ya probably won't be paying $30 for this

The prologue to Metal Gear Solid V comes out next month, and if you're expecting a nice chunk of Snake's story to keep you occupied until the full game is done, you should probably know that it's short. Really short.

Game Informer got their hands on a near-final build of Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes for their March cover story, and they say they beat the game's main mission (not including side quests or special console-exclusive missions) in less than two hours. Less than two hours!

"Judged just by the core story mission, Ground Zeroes is short," Game Informer writes in the cover story (only available in the magazine, not online). "We completed it in just less than two hours."

(For the full preview, check out this month's Game Informer.)

Why Metal Gear Solid V's Prologue Is Sold Separately
The first part of Metal Gear Solid V wasn't always going to be on next-gen consoles--in fact, series creator Hideo Kojima says it could have… Read…
Ground Zeroes is out on March 18 for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4. It's designed as a prologue to MGSV—because Hideo Kojima wanted to give people something to play while they wait for the next entry in his stealth-action series—but it isn't cheap: the last-gen version is $20 digital and $30 physical; the current-gen version is $30 digital and $40 physical. P

Of course, it's unfair to get judgmental before we actually get our hands on this thing; this could be the best damn two hours of gameplay we've ever seen. Stellar experiences like Journey and Gone Home are also really short. But I imagine most people expected a little more from a big-budget production like Ground Zeroes.

starseed1981 02-06-14 11:08 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
$40.00 for two hours of gameplay? Sounds like a perfect Red Box rental to me.

RocShemp 02-07-14 11:05 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Sounds like a typical MGS game. I'm assuming they calculated that gameplay time by excluding the 15+ hours worth of cinematics/radio conversations.

slop101 02-07-14 11:40 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
I wonder if they'll give this away or heavily discount it once MGS 5 is out.

redrum 02-07-14 02:37 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Probably will bundle it with mgs5

mattysemo247 02-07-14 03:57 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Mgs5 goty

mhg83 02-07-14 04:49 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/7TxeB17.jpg

Solid Snake 02-08-14 03:00 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
I like MGS2 but yeah... MGS2 was what it was.

slop101 02-08-14 10:19 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
That MGS2 "prologue" was better than the rest of the game - hope this isn't a similar situation.

RocShemp 02-08-14 10:05 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12004985)
That MGS2 "prologue" was better than the rest of the game - hope this isn't a similar situation.
Funny enough, the tanker mission with Snake in MGS2 was originally intended to simply be the entirety of MGS2 and the game proper featuring Raiden in the Big Shell was intended to be MGS3. However, when the section in the tanker with Snake turned out to be so short it was then placed at the begining of Raiden's game as a prologue instead.

Solid Snake 02-09-14 03:45 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
1-2 hour gameplay, that's stressing it, is what the tanker mission turned into? I don't know how the team could think that that mission was a whole game originally. Are you sure about that? I'd imagine they had other stuff but still came up short. Goddamn. That was a cool mission.

andy434343 02-09-14 08:09 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
I always look back in my life and try to figure out when everything started to be a dream, and that a sign was present that made things so ridiculous that I should have become self aware that my life is not really happening.

Raiden might be one of those signs.

RocShemp 02-09-14 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12005557)
1-2 hour gameplay, that's stressing it, is what the tanker mission turned into? I don't know how the team could think that that mission was a whole game originally. Are you sure about that? I'd imagine they had other stuff but still came up short. Goddamn. That was a cool mission.
I found out about it either in the interactive PS2 disc, Document of Metal Gear Solid 2, or the documentary discs that were pre-order bonuses with MGS3 and MGS4 respectively. In one of those three releases they acknowledged that the Tanker Mission was intended to be MGS2 sans the Big Shell Incident. It always struck me as a huge lack of imagination that they couldn't figure how to make a whole stealth game revolving around a huge tanker that would climax with an at sea battle against Metal Gear RAY. But there you have it.

Solid Snake 02-09-14 05:07 PM
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.... I think I have that DVD.

I totally would have dug a whole game in that tanker. Wonderful setting for a game. Alas it wasn't the whole thing.

RocShemp 02-11-14 07:50 AM
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Here's what Wikipedia has to say about the MGS2 prologue:

mattysemo247 02-26-14 07:45 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Not sure if it was because of the negative feedback about the length of the game, but the price dropped for the disc version. Now it's $30 for all platforms.

Solid Snake 02-26-14 09:20 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Still too high.

starseed1981 02-26-14 10:59 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Agreed. For two hours I'd pay $20.00 to have the physical disc but not more than that.

redrum 03-15-14 03:27 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
3 days...my body is ready

Supermallet 03-15-14 01:42 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
This is an obvious rental.

RocShemp 03-15-14 01:56 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12045276)
This is an obvious rental.
Not even that. If anything, watch the cutscenes and scant gameplay on YouTube.

nickdawgy 03-15-14 08:02 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
I might Redbox this but I don't have a ton of time for games so I'd hate to end up paying $20 in rental fees.

redrum 03-16-14 12:15 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
38/40 from Famitsu

http://gamingbolt.com/metal-gear-sol...-a-superb-3840

nickdawgy 03-17-14 12:13 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
I ended up reserving this at my local Gamestop today. I figure $30 is worth a gamble.

dsa_shea 03-17-14 10:30 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
I read that Metal Gear 5 is expected to release in the early part of 2015.

Brack 03-17-14 10:47 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
I think I will just wait until the real game comes out. I'm sure this will be super cheap by then.

slop101 03-17-14 10:54 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Now that the rumors of it being 2 hours have been squashed, what is the actual length of the game?

Solid Snake 03-17-14 10:57 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Core game seems like it can be done in 2 hours. But the 4 side missions and the console exclusive mission, for either system, extends it to maybe 4 or more hours. This all depends on how you play Big Boss.

I'm pretty much certain that we'll get some awesome package of GZ and PP. And my inner MGS whore wants to hold out for that possibility but I'm a whore for MGS. I want to play this ASAP.

slop101 03-17-14 11:19 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Eh. I think I'll just go ahead and buy it. $30 for a game half as long as a $60 game doesn't seem like too big a rip-off. Also, I'm really itching to play something more "next-gen" on my PS4 until Infamous comes out.

Solid Snake 03-17-14 12:12 PM
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Report back ASAP when you've played it out. I'd love to hear a player's thoughts on this one.

nickdawgy 03-17-14 08:52 PM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Still no reviews? I guess it could be bad.

I'm guessing 7.8 or so.

M Polo 03-18-14 07:15 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Originally Posted by nickdawgy (Post 12047701)
Still no reviews? I guess it could be bad.

I'm guessing 7.8 or so.
The usual suspects all have reviews up.

5.5 from Polygon, 3.5/5 stars from Joystiq, Yes from Kotaku, 5/10 from EGM, 8/10 from Gamespot as well as IGN. So it ranges from fair to good.

dsa_shea 03-18-14 07:22 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
So an average game of rather short length equals a pass for.

nickdawgy 03-18-14 07:48 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
EGM shows they don't know shit as usual.

If you have the time to rent it and beat it in a week, it's still $20. I say $30 isn't bad at all.

stingermck 03-18-14 07:55 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
$20 digital on PSN store, thats not bad.

RichC2 03-18-14 07:55 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 12048040)
So an average game of rather short length equals a pass for.
They just seem to relate it to paying $20 - $30 for the MGS2 Tanker demo. But the current gen version looks spectacular compared to the previous gen one. Really wish they'd port this to PC.

Adam Tyner 03-18-14 08:19 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12047034)
Now that the rumors of it being 2 hours have been squashed, what is the actual length of the game?
Polygon says they completed the main mission in 76 minutes (real-time, not game-time), and that includes the cutscenes (unsure about the 10 minute opening cinematic) and around 8 deaths.

Eurogamer posted a speed run that breezes through the entire prologue in about 10 minutes:



...although that's admittedly skipping the cutscenes and having the foreknowledge that goes along with playing through it multiple times. Speedruns don't really mean anything, but still...!

M Polo 03-18-14 08:19 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
It's already on its way from Gamefly. That works for me.

slop101 03-18-14 10:30 AM
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
 
Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 12048056)
$20 digital on PSN store, thats not bad.
Link, please. I don't see it available there.


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