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superdeluxe 02-29-12 11:34 AM

Baldur's Gate III (PC, PS5, XSS, XSX)
 
http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/30841/


"The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny, chaos will be sown by their passage." So declares the wise Alaundo, in a mysterious new teaser website for Baldur's Gate. Throne of Bhaal's malevolent skull takes center stage here, with the faded images of original player characters populating the background. A simple peek inside the site's source code reveals some enigmatic references to previous Baldur's Gate games.
http://baldursgate.com/


Very Interested in this

msdmoney 02-29-12 03:00 PM

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I've heard it's going to be a first person shooter...

Chris_D 02-29-12 03:51 PM

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But with squad mechanics and gay romance options.

edstein 02-29-12 07:31 PM

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I loved the first game. Never played the second though. I would be interested in a new update to this strong IP.

JasonF 02-29-12 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by edstein (Post 11134791)
I loved the first game. Never played the second though. I would be interested in a new update to this strong IP.

The second game is about a million times better than the first. You should definitely check it out.

Setzer 02-29-12 10:14 PM

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Yes, the second one is definitely better than the first. Both are classics but BG2 is easily one of my favorite RPG's of all time.

foxdvd 02-29-12 10:24 PM

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the second game IS the best pure rpg of all time...

foxdvd 02-29-12 10:28 PM

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and time stop is still the best spell in game history...

slymer 03-01-12 09:06 AM

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I'd love a new Baldur's Gate game!

I just bought Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 with both expansions, Planescape Torment, and the Temple of Elemental Evil off GOG.com for $19.99. Not a bad deal.

nickdawgy 03-01-12 02:17 PM

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Back in the days of awesome RPG gaming....

mugwump 03-01-12 08:57 PM

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Heck I even played the less than stellar Xbox ports. I guess I'm old school but I'll always prefer an isometric perspective for RPGs.

kgrogers1979 03-02-12 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by edstein (Post 11134791)
I loved the first game. Never played the second though. I would be interested in a new update to this strong IP.

-eek-

You can get the whole BG saga on GOG for like $10. You should definitely check it out, because as others have said it is the best RPG ever made. Its really sad how Bioware has fallen because Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as good.

BG3 was actually in development by Black Isle before they went out of business. It was codenamed The Black Hound, similar to their Fallout 3 work in progress codenamed Van Buren. Of course the Fallout 3 we actually got by Bethesda was nothing like Van Buren at all, so I don't really have any faith that if BG3 ever is made that it will be like the old games at all. Isometric games like that are dead and gone. BG3 will most likely be a first person game like Fallout 3 ended up being. Also consider that it definitely won't use the old 2nd edition rule set. It would use the new 4th edition rules that just came out. So yeah, it really won't be much like old school BG at all.

kgrogers1979 03-02-12 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mugwump (Post 11136534)
Heck I even played the less than stellar Xbox ports. I guess I'm old school but I'll always prefer an isometric perspective for RPGs.

They weren't ports. A port is when a game is transferred across systems with minimal changes. The console BG games were completely different games.

RocShemp 03-02-12 07:08 AM

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I don't think I ever played any of the Baldur's Gate games. I recall trying a demo for one of the console games but it wasn't my cup of tea. However, I've also read the console games were all crap.

kgrogers1979 03-02-12 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11136929)
I don't think I ever played any of the Baldur's Gate games. I recall trying a demo for one of the console games but it wasn't my cup of tea. However, I've also read the console games were all crap.

They are crap indeed. BG on the consoles was a hack and slash button masher like God of War or Ninja Gaiden. BG on the PC was a very strategic RPG using the D&D rules. Have you played Dragon Age? BG on the PC is Dragon Age done ten times better. In fact, Dragon Age was hyped as being the spiritual successor to BG, although in the end it was just marketing hype because it really wasn't. Dragon Age on the PC was close though since you could change to an isometric view, and the difficulty was a little more strategic than console versions.

Ghym 03-02-12 09:56 AM

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I'd love a new BG game. I played the original long ago. Never played the second one. I recently bought BG 1+2, and Icewind Dale 1+2 off GOG.com when they had a buy one, get one free sale. It also came with Temple of Elemental Evil for free. 5 games for $20. A good deal, IMO. I've now got plenty of old school RPGs to play through.

fumanstan 03-02-12 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11136905)
Its really sad how Bioware has fallen because Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as good.

This almost makes it sound like Bioware is making crap games now or something. Personally, I like the Mass Effect series better.

kgrogers1979 03-02-12 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghym (Post 11137160)
It also came with Temple of Elemental Evil for free.

ToEE is a very bland game. Its sad because it does have the most faithful representation of tabletop D&D gaming ever converted to a computer game, and that part is absolutely amazing, but the rest of the game is junk. The storyline is more basic than Diablo. The quests are all fetch quests. The amazing combat engine is the only good thing about it.

If you do play ToEE, be sure to get the Circle of Eight mod. That mod adds a lot of content and provides a better experience. Its still not a great game, but its a lot better than vanilla ToEE.

If someone ever made a game with the depth of Baldur's Gate combined with the combat engine of ToEE, it would be the best game ever made.

kgrogers1979 03-02-12 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11137171)
This almost makes it sound like Bioware is making crap games now or something. Personally, I like the Mass Effect series better.

Mass Effect better than Baldur's Gate? That's blasphemy!

It really depends on what you want in your games. Mass Effect, like most games today, are definitely more cinematic and almost like a Hollywood movie. However, they typically lack the gameplay depth of older games. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as deep as Baldur's Gate. Fallout 3 is nowhere near as deep as Fallout 1 and 2. Deus Ex: Human Revolution isn't as deep as the original Deus Ex. And so on. Personally I prefer gameplay over cinematic graphics, so I am not too much into modern gaming. Other people prefer cinematics over gameplay. Nothing wrong with it, just different preferences.

RocShemp 03-02-12 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11136937)
They are crap indeed. BG on the consoles was a hack and slash button masher like God of War or Ninja Gaiden. BG on the PC was a very strategic RPG using the D&D rules. Have you played Dragon Age? BG on the PC is Dragon Age done ten times better. In fact, Dragon Age was hyped as being the spiritual successor to BG, although in the end it was just marketing hype because it really wasn't. Dragon Age on the PC was close though since you could change to an isometric view, and the difficulty was a little more strategic than console versions.

Yeah, I have DA. Sadly, never got to finish it. I forgot to backup my save when I had to re-install Windows 7 a while back. Since I was pretty deep in the game, I haven't had much desire to start from the beginning all over again.

I rarely used the isometric camera, however. It helped in certain areas but felt mostly pointless since enemies would just magically appear out of nowhere (DAII was far worse in that regard).

fumanstan 03-02-12 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11137181)
Mass Effect better than Baldur's Gate? That's blasphemy!

It really depends on what you want in your games. Mass Effect, like most games today, are definitely more cinematic and almost like a Hollywood movie. However, they typically lack the gameplay depth of older games. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as deep as Baldur's Gate. Fallout 3 is nowhere near as deep as Fallout 1 and 2. Deus Ex: Human Revolution isn't as deep as the original Deus Ex. And so on. Personally I prefer gameplay over cinematic graphics, so I am not too much into modern gaming. Other people prefer cinematics over gameplay. Nothing wrong with it, just different preferences.

I prefer gameplay over cinematic graphics too, but I think "gameplay" is somewhat ambiguous and ill-defined so i'm not sure if that's the comparison I would make as the distinction between new and old games. For what its worth, I like Fallout 1/2 and the original Deus Ex better then their modern counter parts too, but still have Mass Effect as my favorite RPG. :shrug:

RocShemp 03-02-12 10:46 AM

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I love Mass Effect but only like Dragon Age. I wonder where I fit in all this.

fumanstan 03-02-12 10:48 AM

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I only like Dragon Age too. :p

foxdvd 03-02-12 11:08 AM

re: Baldur's Gate III (PC, PS5, XSS, XSX)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11137181)
Mass Effect better than Baldur's Gate? That's blasphemy!

It really depends on what you want in your games. Mass Effect, like most games today, are definitely more cinematic and almost like a Hollywood movie. However, they typically lack the gameplay depth of older games. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as deep as Baldur's Gate.

I love Baldur's Gate. I think I have near 300 hours into the second game, but I just disagree with the idea that the gameplay is deeper than Mass Effect. I guess it depends on what you are looking for or define "deep" as. Baldur's Gate does not hold your hand, I will give you that. One is truly open world and the other is structured. Combat is a major reason to play these games. With Baldur's Gate 2, even on the highest difficulty, I got to the point that I never thought about it. I could go through the motions in my sleep. Mass Effect on the other hand on the highest difficulty requires you to be on your toes. While it is still not a hard game, there is a strategy required that keeps you on edge during the game that is missing in Baldur's Gate.

Baldur's Gate has the joy of exploration and discovery that makes the game special. Mass Effect has, as you say, a Hollywood like presentation. Both games are a lot of fun during combat. I just happen to find Mass Effect deeper in that regard, and ultimately that is the reason I play games.

I am with you on Dragon Age though...

foxdvd 03-02-12 11:40 AM

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and I have to add...reading my post again I made it sound like Baldurs gate was easy...or that combat had no depth..

This is not the case, there is plenty of difficulty until you figure it out and level up, and you will get your ass handed to you if you pick fights you are not ready for or go where you should not be. You need a lot of strategy for Baldur's gate, it just seemed to me that I got to the point that combat was mindless. I almost did not think about buffs, potions and strategy (I just used them).... Mass Effect 2 is an easy game, but the nature of the combat never allowed me to just sort of block out what I was doing if I was playing on Insanity.

Also I have a total of 130 hours on Mass 2, and WAY over 300 on BG2...so that might have something to do with it...

Ghym 03-15-12 10:17 AM

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PCGamer.com has an article that the Baldur's Gate page has a countdown going. Should hit zero today around 12pm pacific. I just went to the site, and it's down to 3:45:00 to go. I guess we'll find out what its about pretty soon.

superdeluxe 03-15-12 10:35 AM

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Hoping for Isometric, likely going to be first person shooter/rpg

RocShemp 03-15-12 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 11152799)
Hoping for Isometric, likely going to be first person shooter/rpg

Or a FaceBook game a'la Dragon Age Legends.

JasonF 03-15-12 12:59 PM

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One rumor I've heard is an iOS port (that would be OK with me).

Tracer Bullet 03-15-12 02:02 PM

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Apparently the countdown was to the site going down.

RocShemp 03-15-12 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet (Post 11153115)
Apparently the countdown was to the site going down.

Are you serious? :lol:

kgrogers1979 03-15-12 02:21 PM

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Its still down.

You know, if you are going to count down to a supposedly big announcement, you should be well prepared beforehand for any potential bandwidth overloads...

kgrogers1979 03-15-12 02:36 PM

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This just showed up on Joystiq.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/15/ba...s-this-summer/


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.c...xheaderimg.jpg

Nope, we still don't really know what this Baldur's Gate announcement business is, but we sure do know it's name now: "Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition." Huzzah! As previously reported, Beamdog is working on the Baldur's Gate project, though the developer's Overhaul Games division is taking lead. Atari is handling publishing duties, and Wizards of the Coast is licensing its (D&D-based) IP.

From the few details we have, the project sounds an awful lot like an HD remake to us – especially given the fancier logo and "Enhanced Edition" subtitle. We've reached out to Beamdog for clarity on what the game actually is, and what platforms it'll end up on (among other things). For now, know that Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition will land on whatever those platforms are at some point this summer. We're gonna take a wild guess that it'll be on PC at the very least.
There already is an HD mod that plays the original game in HD graphics, so I hope this is more than just an HD facelift.

RocShemp 03-15-12 02:42 PM

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Wow. If all that was for a simple facelift, that was a whole lot of nothing. :down:

Ghym 03-15-12 03:42 PM

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Well, according to this article, it's more than a re-package.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/15/ba...g-this-summer/

Following an enigmatic, tedious countdown timer (that broke the website upon expiring for 40 minutes and counting), Overhaul Games has announced Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition.

BG and BG2 have been available on GOG.com for awhile, so what’ll this contribute? According to the developer, original game content. Overhaul Games told Joystiq: “This is the Enhanced Edition, it’s not a repackage. We have the original source code and are doing a significant update.” I’ve separately reached out to the developer for more information.

Right now, the game’s announcement page is still busted, so I’m not sure whether to tell you to keep F5ing or not. I’ll update with any additional information as we receive it.

kgrogers1979 03-15-12 04:00 PM

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We have the original source code and are doing a significant update.
It sounds to me like they are just updating the old Infinity Engine rather than doing an actual remake. I wonder just how much they can actually update it that hasn't already been done in mods. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of BG mods out there that significantly improve the original game. Like I said before, there is even a mod that lets you play the original game in HD and widescreen resolutions, so even that is nothing new.

So far this whole thing seems VERY underwhelming. Unless it turns out to be an actual remake with a new engine, it seems like a huge waste of time.

kgrogers1979 03-15-12 04:18 PM

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The site is finally working now. Only 3 hours late. :lol:

http://www.baldursgate.com/news/2012...anced-edition/


Announcing Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™
March 15, 2012

Atari, Wizards of the Coast, and Overhaul Games are pleased to announce work has begun on the Enhanced Edition of Baldur’s Gate and Baldur’s Gate II.

Since its initial release in 1998, Baldur’s Gate has entertained millions of fans around the globe, and has received countless awards. This classic saga of mystery, intrigue, and adventure has set the standard for Dungeons & Dragons® computer roleplaying games ever since.

Re-forged by Overhaul Games

Overhaul Games has assembled a talented team of artists, programmers and designers to enhance this timeless classic. To remain true to the spirit of the game, the team includes original Baldur’s Gate developers.

Relive the most epic story ever told

Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™ and Baldur’s Gate II: Enhanced Edition™ will feature a re-forged version of the Infinity Engine with a variety of modern improvements.

The greatest roleplaying game of all time, enhanced

For all information regarding Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™ visit www.baldursgate.com, for press inquiries contact [email protected].
So there will be both a BG1 and BG2 enhanced editions. It also looks like I was right. Its just an enhancement of the old Infinity Engine and not a real remake. I was hoping for a 3D isometric engine similar to Diablo 3. Just reusing the old engine is major disappointment.

Ghym 03-15-12 04:23 PM

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Considering I just bought both BG 1+2 off of GOG.com, I'll probably just stick to playing those, unless this new game has some really cool new features.

kgrogers1979 03-15-12 04:31 PM

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I wonder if it will use 4th edition rules? I really can't imagine Wizards of the Coast would ever go back to 2nd edition.

That's probably what the "modern enhancement" is. Just a change in the rule set and everything else remains the same. :lol:

Setzer 03-15-12 06:57 PM

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Depending on what sort of enhancements they have planned and what new content will be added to the game, I might pick it up. I was hoping for Baldur's Gate III using an enhanced version of the Infinity Engine....but I guess that ain't happening anytime soon. I've already re-played the first game using the TuTu mod and if that's all this enhanced version is then I'll pass.


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