Nah, I wasn't referring to graphics. Was referring more to third-party support, FMV, etc. I feel like that's what really helped PlayStation establish itself back in the day...

Yeah, I really missed all that FMV.

I agree about the z button (though I think 4 triggers is mostly unneccesary). The c-stick was terrible. I actually liked the octagon because it was eaiser to get a "true left or right." I am a big fan of the button layout. All that said, I actually think the 360 controler is the best controller made thus far. Everything about it feels so good.

Yikes.

Ha, I was kind of jealous at the time, but I survived with just my trusty N64.

I think the 360 controller with a dualshock d-pad would be the ultimate controller. IMO, of course.

I liked the GCN controller save for the Z button. I haven't used a 360 controller much, but it seems pretty comfortable. Took me quite awhile before I got used to the Dual Shock 3, but I like it a lot now. Used to hate it with a passion...

Yikes? Why Yikes? I'm sure many people would agree. I've owned pretty much every gaming system since the Genesis/SNES days and still think the 360 controller is pretty much the best out there. It doesn't have the best d pad, but the triggers, button layout, and form put it light years ahead of everything else out there.

If you haven't met Nick Crush, do a search for a few posts. He likes to be a contrarian.

360 Controller is the best i've used as well.

Same here. The first controller to top the DC one imo.

i will concur the 360 is the best. dpad could use some work but since that's rarely used in games i play, it's only a minor quibble.

What I like about this mod is how it retains the PS buttons. I don't care for how the 360 buttons are rounded on top instead of flat, which I find more confortable to use. I actually filed down the tops of the buttons on my Xbox controller S to get them flat.

I don't think that's fair. I just have my own opinions, is all.

What's so "yikes" about people liking the 360 controller then?

Alright, maybe we could of avoided this had I just explained myself. I'm just not a fan of it. The weight, the clunkiness... I've never been comfortable with it. But I've never been a XBOX guy, so that surely has something to do with it.

For what it's worth, when I've played Xbox games with my friends, the controller has always been a major roadblock to my enjoyment of the game. Maybe it's just because I'm used to Nintendo and PlayStation controllers, but I didn't like the way it was set up.

Gamecube controller was my favorite. I don't really care for the xbox design. Project cafe controller is damn comfy.

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Yeah, it's getting annoying isn't? Either blow your NDA or don't bother.

Another vote for 360 controller, hands down...best controller to date on any system. It only has two major cons in my book. One is the weight. I do agree, the thing is "clunky" in that regard, but definitely makes up for it in the ergonomic design and analog placement. Two is the aforementioned D-pad, which doesn't really bother me as it is rarely used. Everything else from the concave analogs, to triggers and shoulder buttons are just right. MS really nailed it, especially after the original xbox controller designs.

Fix those two things and maybe re-add a memory/USB/SD card slot in the controller and they would have a perfect controller next gen.

I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. If it's not a system you use on a regular basis then you aren't ever going to get used to it.

I actually like the weight. I play with it in my lap though, so that may make a difference.

Ah, you youngens'....THIS is the best controller ever:

Six buttons for Street Fighter II!

I hated the Genesis controller.