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Old 09-18-11 | 09:30 AM
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Re: Battlefield 3

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Because it looks even better on PC.
Seriously, after picking up BF:BC 2 for my new PC it is like night and day compared with the console version. Just can't top the fluid frame rates and 16x AF and 32x AA. Textures look better, but were still obviously designed for consoles. I don't think BF:3 will have this problem. It is going to look and play outstanding on PC.

Not that it will be bad on consoles, but I don't see why anyone who has the option would go for the console version, other than to play with friends who don't have a PC. Not to mention aiming is so much easier with a mouse, and squad management is much better. That last thing is one aspect that really sucks on consoles, and I hope they fix it this time around. So nice being able to pick your squad.

Regardless, I think we should definitely get a PC multiplayer group going on DVD Talk.
Old 09-18-11 | 01:50 PM
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Re: Battlefield 3

Originally Posted by discostu1337
This game looks amazing on Xbox, why bother with a PC?
I might be wrong, but I think the console versions are capped at 24 players (12v12). The PC version will allow 64 players (32v32).

That would be my main reason for wanting to play on a PC. Some of those giant MP maps get kinda lonely. But I'm gonna stick with the 360. My current rig can't handle the PC version, and I don't want to buy a new one.
Old 09-18-11 | 02:12 PM
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Re: Battlefield 3

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
sooooo...how're they doing it? Splitting the campaign in 2 and then multi works w/ whichever disc? Or...Campaign on one and the Multi on the other?
Disc 1 = MP + CO-OP & HD Installation content (whatever that is).
Disc 2 = Single Player
Old 09-18-11 | 02:23 PM
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Re: Battlefield 3

Originally Posted by TheBigDave
That would be my main reason for wanting to play on a PC. Some of those giant MP maps get kinda lonely. But I'm gonna stick with the 360. My current rig can't handle the PC version, and I don't want to buy a new one.
EA already addressed that the multiplayer maps will be smaller on the consoles due to that exact complaint.
Old 09-18-11 | 02:52 PM
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Re: Battlefield 3

Originally Posted by Nausicaa
Seriously, after picking up BF:BC 2 for my new PC it is like night and day compared with the console version. Just can't top the fluid frame rates and 16x AF and 32x AA. Textures look better, but were still obviously designed for consoles. I don't think BF:3 will have this problem. It is going to look and play outstanding on PC.

Not that it will be bad on consoles, but I don't see why anyone who has the option would go for the console version, other than to play with friends who don't have a PC. Not to mention aiming is so much easier with a mouse, and squad management is much better. That last thing is one aspect that really sucks on consoles, and I hope they fix it this time around. So nice being able to pick your squad.

Regardless, I think we should definitely get a PC multiplayer group going on DVD Talk.


Too bad there would probably only be 4 or 5 people here playing on PC.
Old 09-18-11 | 06:02 PM
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Re: Battlefield 3

Maybe we can start a trend!
Old 09-19-11 | 07:13 AM
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A DVDtalk PC Clan? That'd be cool.
Old 09-19-11 | 12:57 PM
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Re: Battlefield 3

Originally Posted by RocShemp
A DVDtalk PC Clan? That'd be cool.
No way, then you'll end up with the regulars wanting to only play with each other, and then break off to form their own Clan (similar to what happened with the Halo 2 DVD Talk clan)
Old 09-19-11 | 01:14 PM
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No way, then you'll end up with the regulars wanting to only play with each other, and then break off to form their own Clan (similar to what happened with the Halo 2 DVD Talk clan)
That's a shame. But who play Halo anyway?
Old 09-21-11 | 11:55 AM
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New info about the multiplayer modes, sounds great - pretty similar to BC 2 with a few changes. If we do a DVDtalk PC group, you all better be down for playing hardcore mode!

A post on the Battlefield 3 blog gives us a run down of Battlefield 3‘s five game modes. Each mode will be playable on tweaked versions of each of Battlefield 3′s nine maps. Favourites like Conquest and Rush mode make a return, with a few key tweaks, and there will be a selection of deathmatch modes designed to encourage teamwork and offer faster, smaller skirmishes. Read on for a complete run down, and find out why it will be harder than ever to take down those pesky M-Com stations.

Rush

Players: 24/32 (Console/PC)
Focus: Objective Based All-out Warfare
Goal: Attack/defend M-COM stations
Winning the game: Destroy all M-COM stations/Deplete the attacker’s tickets (Attackers/Defenders)


The best thing to come out of Bad Company, Rush mode has attackers trying to arm explosive M-Com stations in order to move on to the next phase of the map, eventually pushing defenders back to their final base for a heroic last stand.

Rush has been tweaked in a few important ways for Battlefield 3. Attackers will no longer be able to destroy M-Com stations by bringing down the building their housed in. In Bad Company 2 attackers could park a couple of tanks on a ridge and shell M-Com stations from afar. In Battlefield 3, you’ll have to walk up and arm one to take it out.

Also, the M-Com stations’ destruct sequences will now pause if a defender starts defusing them, removing an annoying situation where you’d dodge sniper fire, make it to the station and start repairs, only to have the thing blow up in your face. Once the M-Com is armed, even if the attackers run out of respawn tickets, the match will continue until the station is disarmed or explodes.

As with Bad Company, the vehicle selection for Rush games will depend on the map you’re playing. Expect the full selection of jets and choppers on huge maps like Caspian Border.

Squad Rush

Players: 8 (4 vs. 4)
Focus: Squad Based Infantry Combat
Goal: Attack/defend M-COM stations
Winning the game: Destroy all M-COM stations/Deplete the attacker’s tickets (Attackers/Defenders)


The smallest and most focused of Battlefield 3′s game modes will bit one squad against another in tight battles to destroy the M-Com stations (because all M-Com stations must DIE). It’s easy to imagine this becoming a favourite among Battlefield’s elite players. The elimination of just one member of a defending team will make spreading themselves between M-Com stations that much more difficult.

DICE promise "all out vehicle warfare" in Conquest mode.

Conquest

Players: 24/32 or 64 (Console/PC)
Focus: Objective Based All-out Warfare
Goal: Capture and Hold Flags
Winning the game: Deplete opposing team’s tickets


Conquest is a Battlefield classic, and of course it’s returning for Battlefield 3. On PC, Conquest matches can contain as many as 64 players at a time, making Conquest the place to go for a truly epic scrap. DICE recommend Conquest as the best mode for “all out vehicle warfare.” The rules are familiar. Securing the lion’s share of bases scattered about the map will drain the opposing team’s respawn tickets. When one team runs out, the other team wins.

Team Deathmatch

Players: 24 (12 vs. 12)
Focus: Team Based Infantry Combat
Goal: Eliminate a set number of enemy combatants
Winning the game: The team that reaches the set kill number first is declared the winner


The self explanatory Team Deathmatch mode will be the mode to choose if you want a quick 15 minute fight. The 24 player battles will take place on smaller versions of the nine main maps, and there will be no vehicles at all. DICE recommend team deathmatch as a good way to discover the strengths and weaknesses of each of the four classes.

Engineers will be vital in Squad Deathmatch.

Squad Deathmatch

Players: 16 (4 squads of 4)
Focus: Squad Based Infantry Combat
Goal: Eliminate a set number of enemy combatants
Winning the game: The squad that reaches the set kill number first is declared the winner
Each team will have access to Infantry Fighting Vehicles


For more organised players after a quick skirmish, there’s Squad Deathmatch mode. The number of players on the map may be smaller, but each will have access to Infantry Fighting Vehicles, which are essentially small tanks with an ant-infantry weapon mounted on top. Expect fights to revolve around the life and death of these vehicles. Deft Engineer work on both sides will be needed to keep the vehicle alive in the face of organised rocket fire.

DICE also mention that every map and mode will be playable in hardcore mode. This removes most of the UI and reduces the health of all players. Bad Company 2 is a more dangerous and difficult game with hardcore mode enabled, but rewards organised squads who co-ordinate to storm objectives, letting them wipe out buildings in seconds to snatch control points and arm M-Com stations. There will also be an Infantry Only option, which could mean a long walk on some of Battlefield 3′s largest maps.

We can’t wait to test out the modes shortly. The Battlefield 3 beta release date is set for September 29. If you pre-ordered Medal of Honor, you’re guaranteed a spot. Otherwise, Battlefield 3′s October 25 release date is coming up fast.
Old 09-21-11 | 12:17 PM
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Re: Battlefield 3

The above post just mentions that the MP modes in BC2 are carrying over for BF3, and the only real change is to the mechanics of the MCOMs in regards to defusing and no environmental destruction.

Admittedly, I love the MP on BF:BC2, but, why highlight it for BF3 when it is exactly the same thing?

edited to add... Wait, Team Deathmatch is new...
Old 09-21-11 | 01:24 PM
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There is some new stuff, and we didn't really know to what extent the multiplayer would or would not be similar to BC2 compared to other titles in the series. I think it is useful information, particularly the number of players allowed in each game mode.
Old 09-21-11 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shumway
edited to add... Wait, Team Deathmatch is new...
I never understood why BC2 didn't have deathmatch... that seems like a must have for a game like this. Rush was/is great though.
Old 09-21-11 | 10:14 PM
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I'm now fully upgraded in prep for this game, so count me in for the PC group.

i7 2600, radeon 6950....to be able to play Crysis at max settings was something I never thought I'd see.
Old 09-22-11 | 12:39 AM
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I never understood why BC2 didn't have deathmatch... that seems like a must have for a game like this. Rush was/is great though.
Don't I remember playing deathmatch in BC2???

I think it was squads, which is slightly different from teams, but it fit with the ability to communicate only with your squad.
Old 09-22-11 | 08:20 AM
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Re: Battlefield 3

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Don't I remember playing deathmatch in BC2???

I think it was squads, which is slightly different from teams, but it fit with the ability to communicate only with your squad.
You are correct - that was squad deathmatch - three 4 man teams versus 3 4 man teams. It lacked a true team deathmatch - 12 vs 12 without squads and open communication for the teams.
Old 09-22-11 | 09:52 AM
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I actually have mixed feelings about the limited communication in BC2. On the one hand, it would be good to have full team communication when a bunch of us are on, but on the other hand, I don't really care to triple my odds of having to listen to some 14 year old racist toolbag when it's just a few of us on.

Besides, blueberries are charming...and often funny.
Old 09-22-11 | 11:51 AM
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I didn't even realize until the other night that you could mute an individual in your squad. Diecast and I were playing together and a random popped in. We asked if he had a mic, *big mistake* Dude started talking and the feedback was horrible. I told him how to set the sensitivity down, but, he didn't seem to get it. Lee muted him and asked me occasionally if he fixed it. I dealt with ringing ears for around another 2 or 3 minutes and then figured out what to do.
Old 09-22-11 | 01:19 PM
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I've had some decent luck with mics and people talking during MW online matches. That said, I had an Xbox Live "email" sent to me telling me that I suck at the game. I'm not great, but I'm not horrible so the fact that someone felt the need to tell me was rather funny.
Old 09-22-11 | 02:01 PM
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maybe you did suck? Maybe you were stuck w/ some really good guys..and you were the bad seed.
Old 09-22-11 | 02:33 PM
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Battlefield 3 Beta Dates And PS3 DLC Exclusivity
This is Tommy Rydling from DICE, coming to you, the readers of the PlayStation Blog, with two exciting pieces of news.

First, we are very happy to announce the dates for the eagerly awaited Battlefield 3 Open Beta. The Beta is open to all and will run from September 29th to October 10th. You can join it by simply going to the going the PlayStation Store and navigating to the Demos section, followed by the Latest PlayStation Demos option – from there you’ll see the link to download the Battlefield 3 demo!

Prepare for battle in the bombed-out metro tunnels on the outskirts of Paris in the upcoming
Battlefield 3 Open Beta!

Alternatively, if you have redeemed a Medal of Honor: Limited Edition or Tier 1 Edition Online Pass, you will receive early access via a personal email invitation from DICE that includes 48 hour early access, which allows you to start playing on September 27th.

The Open Beta is your chance to play Battlefield 3 early, try out our free social platform Battlelog, and give your valued feedback directly to those of us at DICE. You participating in the Battlefield 3 Open Beta means that you are not only helping us load test the servers, but more importantly helping us fine-tune the final components of the multiplayer game.

During your time in the Open Beta, you’ll be playing on the map Operation Métro – a map you might have seen coverage of from E3, where we won the Best Multiplayer Game award.

But that’s not all for our PlayStation fans! You’ll be happy to know that, starting with our first expansion pack Battlefield 3: Back to Karkand (released later this year), all full-blown upcoming expansion packs for the game will appear one week early exclusively on PlayStation 3!

As you may or may not have heard, Battlefield 3: Back to Karkand is a themed expansion pack containing four of the most loved maps from Battlefield 2, boldly reimagined in the Frostbite 2 engine. It also features new weapons and vehicles, unique in-game dog tags, new persistence, and new Trophies.

Be sure to stay tuned for more on the PlayStation version of Battlefield 3 and all things related. And do let us know what you think of the Beta once it’s up and running. For more stories on Battlefield 3, feel free to check out the official Battlefield blog where I post from behind the scenes under the name “H Brun”.

I also wanted to say thank you for your continued support for DICE and Battlefield 3. Meeting our fans in person is always very rewarding and exciting. We went to GamesCom with the PS3 co-op mission Exfiltration, and at Tokyo Game Show we let visitors play the single player mission Operation Guillotine. The response so far has been overwhelming, and we look forward to showing you more action from Battlefield 3 before the European launch on October 28th.
Battlefield 3 Beta Dates And PS3 DLC Exclusivity[/QUOTE]
Old 09-22-11 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Battlefield 3

Originally Posted by Rob V
I've had some decent luck with mics and people talking during MW online matches. That said, I had an Xbox Live "email" sent to me telling me that I suck at the game. I'm not great, but I'm not horrible so the fact that someone felt the need to tell me was rather funny.
I've gotten the PSN msgs like that but only after I assrape them in CoD.
Old 09-22-11 | 07:08 PM
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Is this for real?

Old 09-27-11 | 09:11 PM
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So is anyone playing the beta?

The EA servers can be a pain in the ass, but I've gotten to play a couple rounds. Seems really glitchy. Players floating in mid-air and crouched inside objects. I hope they can work out all the bugs in 4 weeks.

And the graphics look good on the 360, but nothing revolutionary. Might look amazing on a good gaming PC. But on the console it looks like any other recent AAA shooter.

So far, no T-Rex
Old 09-28-11 | 08:48 AM
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I d/l the beta but have yet to play. Hopefully this weekend.


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