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Rob V 10-21-10 09:41 AM

The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
You guys demanded it...

jdpatri 10-21-10 09:46 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Oh we demand it. Now I can move my big tease post out of Deals.

jdpatri 10-21-10 09:47 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I think this series may have been the most honest Star Wars game. It really maintained the feeling of the epic space dogfighting and team strategy. It's hard to believe this was almost 15 years ago and nothing has really topped it.

FWIW (which is almost nothing at this point) LucasArts teased about some kind of XvT update in the wake of Monkey Island's revamp in a G4 interview back on Aug 4 2009. But nothing has come of this pending "announcement."

http://kotaku.com/5329863/x+wing-vs-...ing-a-comeback

Where's the best place to get a copy of the last entry in the series X-Wing: Alliance? I missed this when it was released.

bunkaroo 10-21-10 10:04 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I loved X-Wing Alliance. It always bugged me that the console-based SW games were always planet bound when flying the fighters.

Rob V 10-21-10 10:07 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
There's a ton of info here: http://www.xwingalliance.net/ (although the last post was 5 years ago :) )

And you can purchase here: http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CBMQ8wIwAg#

I devoted countless hours to this game and it had some of the best Star Wars cutscenes you could find at the time.

Truthfully, I'm more hoping for Battlefront III than anything. If they could mix the SW universe with a CoD type MP, there would be some serious magic there. My guess is they don't have it in 'em though.

Groucho 10-21-10 10:21 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
This game would be amazing fun on Xbox Live.

Trevor 10-21-10 11:02 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
The original X-Wing and Tie Fighter games consumed hundreds of hours on my old 486. Always thought I'd dig them out to play through them again. I wonder if they'd even work on current PCs, after I find an external floppy drive.....

jdpatri 10-21-10 11:05 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10443575)
The original X-Wing and Tie Fighter games consumed hundreds of hours on my old 486. Always thought I'd dig them out to play through them again. I wonder if they'd even work on current PCs, after I find an external floppy drive.....

Geez. Guess I won't be digging out my old disks. Forgot I needed that. :lol: There's got to be a torrent out there somewhere.

Liver&Onions 10-21-10 11:34 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10443447)
This game would be amazing fun on Xbox Live.

:lol:

Gooter 10-21-10 11:40 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I absolutely loved these games. As jdpatri said above, nothing has ever come close to simulating the epicness of space battles (small fighters vs large battle cruisers, dog fighting) like these games did. Also agree that this would make a killing if they re-release it for PSN and Live!.

I think I still have my disks somewhere. I should go look...

starman9000 10-21-10 11:41 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I broke down and was finally going to sell my old thrustmasters at a rummage sale. Nobody bought them :(

Kedrix 10-21-10 11:42 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I logged tons of hours on XWing and Tie Fighter back in college. I have no idea where my copy of those are. However, they did update them sorta in a three-pack called X-Wing Collector Series which works on 95, 98, and I would assume XP as well. Looks like it can be had for $30 on Amazon. Might have to look in Half Price Books next time, that might be a better bet.

jdpatri 10-21-10 11:57 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by starman9000 (Post 10443676)
I broke down and was finally going to sell my old thrustmasters at a rummage sale. Nobody bought them :(

I forgot about all the shit I needed for PC games. :lol:

I do wonder where the hell my thrustmasters went.

starman9000 10-21-10 12:01 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Yeah, I had a nice chuckle at those gargantuan connectors they had.

Rob V 10-21-10 12:58 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Wasn't there a Millenium Falcon sim too or was that X-Wing: Alliance?

rocket1312 10-21-10 01:03 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Tie Fighter is easily in my top 5 all-time games. While I'm sure there were others that came before, I remember this being the first game I played where you played as the bad guys which of course was the coolest thing ever when I was 13. I never played X-Wing Alliance, but I do have the collector's series CD-Rom with the other games. It definitely works on XP, but I believe you need to download a patch from the LucasArts website. It was still available there as of 3 or 4 years ago.

While I would love for a revamp to this series, I can't imagine playing it on my PS3. There were just too many keyboard commands. I'm sure it could be done, but I feel like PC is still the best platform for this.

bunkaroo 10-21-10 01:08 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 10443849)
Wasn't there a Millenium Falcon sim too or was that X-Wing: Alliance?

That was in Alliance I believe, along with being able to fly A-wings, B-wings and maybe even V-wings?

djones6746 10-21-10 01:10 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10443575)
The original X-Wing and Tie Fighter games consumed hundreds of hours on my old 486. Always thought I'd dig them out to play through them again. I wonder if they'd even work on current PCs, after I find an external floppy drive.....

Yes..the old 486 25mhz with like 4 megs of memory...... :)

The X-Wing Collector's Disc which I picked up after I had owned the actual X-Wing game on floppy is most likely my favorite game of all time. The hours and hours logged fighting for the Alliance were hours well spent. This thread makes me want to find an old copy and play it again. I could always run it in an emulator via dosbox. :cool:

jdpatri 10-21-10 01:24 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 10443865)
While I would love for a revamp to this series, I can't imagine playing it on my PS3. There were just too many keyboard commands. I'm sure it could be done, but I feel like PC is still the best platform for this.

Hell yes it could be done. Don't cast any doubt in the minds of people with the ability to pull this off.

The PC is best... but I really believe that mapping most of the controls to the controller wouldn't be impossible. You could push squad commands with the directional pad, HUD maps with select, combinations with L2 or R2 certainly couldn't be any more difficult than remembering keyboard shortcuts. It might not be 100% faithful but I'm certainly not going to complain if they do a competent job. Console deficiencies be damned; I'd much rather play a flight sim on my 60" TV from the comfort of my couch. This is why I stopped gaming (anything other than Civilization anyway) on the PC in the first place. That and I stopped being computer savvy about the time I went to college.

cruzness 10-21-10 01:27 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Bring on a redux. I'd love to relive the fun.

Rob V 10-21-10 01:29 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Should we link this thread to Lucasarts and tell them there are AT LEAST 13 people who would be all over this if they rebranded the series?? :)

cruzness 10-21-10 01:31 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Hell Yeah!!!!!

jdpatri 10-21-10 01:35 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
If you do some random searches, you'll find there are a lot more than 13 of us. :)

When I was looking for more information on that aforementioned rumor, I found plenty of rabid fans clamoring for more information. If they don't know there's a following for these games, they're just not paying attention.

On second thought, I retract that last statement. I think it's pretty clear they're really not paying any attention. None whatsoever.

Rob V 10-21-10 01:52 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
But, but, but we're getting Clone War Legos next month!

Supermallet 10-21-10 02:04 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I loved this series. I had X-Wing, Tie Fighter, and X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter. I remember when the Rebel Alliance series came out and everyone loved it and I couldn't figure out why, as it was just an on-the-rails shooter and thus far less exciting than the free for all that was the X-Wing games. I would buy another one in a hot second. I checked Amazon and all the X-Wing/Tie Fighters games only go up to Windows ME. :(

starman9000 10-21-10 02:06 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 10443911)
Should we link this thread to Lucasarts and tell them there are AT LEAST 13 people who would be all over this if they rebranded the series?? :)

Be sure to tell them that I'd probably wait for it to hit the clearance bin, or buy it used.

pinata242 10-21-10 02:59 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I'm in, but they better not fuck it up like EA did Wing Commander's revival on XBLA.

jdpatri 10-21-10 03:13 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
No. There's no room for qualifiers.

I'm in. Period. We're all just in.




They might be listening.

pinata242 10-21-10 03:15 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
No way, dude, I've been burnt on this before. If they want money and support and a franchise revival, they better not fuck it up.

starman9000 10-21-10 03:56 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Sadly, if they did upgrade it most of the new ships would look like this:

http://dirkenstock.org/__oneclick_up.../picture-6.png

jdpatri 10-21-10 03:59 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
Blasphemer.

cruzness 10-21-10 04:00 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.gobblin.net/wp-content/up...der_noooo1.jpg
;)

Anubis2005X 10-21-10 04:03 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I miss space sims in general. X-Wing was awesome. I also loved Wing Commander III and IV and Freespace 2. Sigh, those were the days...

Liver&Onions 10-21-10 04:04 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
http://gallery.allinthefamilysit.com...th_singing.jpg

cruzness 10-21-10 04:07 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by Anubis2005X (Post 10444278)
I miss space sims in general. X-Wing was awesome. I also loved Wing Commander III and IV and Freespace 2. Sigh, those were the days...

Don' forget Colony Wars and Tachyon.

gmanca 10-21-10 10:34 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I used to play a ton of X-Wing, usually playing the same damn mission where you have to escort some freighters. I would fire tons of torpedoes just to see them fly around as they kept their target locks.

And I liked how the music would loop constantly; not sure if it was the same for the CD as I had the five floppy version.

Drexl 10-21-10 10:59 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by jdpatri (Post 10443901)
Hell yes it could be done. Don't cast any doubt in the minds of people with the ability to pull this off.

The PC is best... but I really believe that mapping most of the controls to the controller wouldn't be impossible. You could push squad commands with the directional pad, HUD maps with select, combinations with L2 or R2 certainly couldn't be any more difficult than remembering keyboard shortcuts. It might not be 100% faithful but I'm certainly not going to complain if they do a competent job. Console deficiencies be damned; I'd much rather play a flight sim on my 60" TV from the comfort of my couch. This is why I stopped gaming (anything other than Civilization anyway) on the PC in the first place. That and I stopped being computer savvy about the time I went to college.

Voice commands could be used for certain things if the game could accurately recognize them.

I wonder if one reason why we don't get many space flight games these days is because they don't make for great demo material and screenshots. Without intricately detailed terrain, they don't seem as graphically impressive. They can't show off great textures and HDR lighting to the extent that they can with a ground-based game.

pinata242 10-21-10 11:03 PM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 

Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 10444965)
Voice commands could be used for certain things if the game could accurately recognize them.

I wonder if one reason why we don't get many space flight games these days is because they don't make for great demo material and screenshots. Without intricately detailed terrain, they don't seem as graphically impressive. They can't show off great textures and HDR lighting to the extent that they can with a ground-based game.

"Trench Run" ruins this argument. As would any assault on a Star Destroyer. For Star Wars, that is. Everything else you're probably right. And the lack of adequate controls for complicated sims. Everything would be arcadey.

jdpatri 10-22-10 07:48 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
All you need is a nice big Death Star explosion to send fans all aflutter. The teaser could just be a distant shot of the Death Star for a few solid uninterrupted seconds, little battle flashes off in the distance... and then boom. Explosion (in firey detail and rubble), sonic boom. End trailer. Million copies sold.

But yeah, it seems to me that the detail you can devote to the planets and Star Destroyers and Death Star should be enough to hook some graphics junkies who were too young to know that shit came before Jar Jar (or that XvT existed at all).

GoldenWheels 10-22-10 08:11 AM

Re: The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter appreciation thread
 
I didn't think the N64 ones were bad (think there was more than one). I put a LOT of time into rogue squadron. Was annoying to be planet bound as previously mentioned--but the missions were well done.


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