The Official PS3 thread - Aaaaannnnnnddddd we're back!
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
Yeah, that's "Pu" so Playstation it is.
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
PlayStation Network and Qriocity online services remain shut as of today, Shigenori Yoshida, a Tokyo-based spokesman said. Sony is uncertain when it can resume the services, Yoshida said by phone today.
The company is in the process of adopting an improved security system and its plan to restart the services fully by May 31 is unchanged, he said. Sony shut down the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services April 20 because of possible data theft by hackers.
The company is in the process of adopting an improved security system and its plan to restart the services fully by May 31 is unchanged, he said. Sony shut down the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services April 20 because of possible data theft by hackers.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...n-restart.html
#2929
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
I still find the PS3 to be a damn fine blu-ray player, so I'm not ditching it
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
It will be interesting to see the fallout from developers and gamers once the system is back on line.
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#2932
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
If I were much of an online gamer, I'd be really pissed, but I'm not, so whatever. Thankfully, most PS3 downloadable games don't require you to be signed in and online to play them, like XBLA games do. Could you imagine if this happened to Live and you couldn't play a single one of your arcade games, multi-player or not?
#2933
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
If I were much of an online gamer, I'd be really pissed, but I'm not, so whatever. Thankfully, most PS3 downloadable games don't require you to be signed in and online to play them, like XBLA games do. Could you imagine if this happened to Live and you couldn't play a single one of your arcade games, multi-player or not?
Unlike, say, Capcom's efforts to thwart PSN game sharing with their Final Fight/Magic Sword game on PSN.
#2934
Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
Yeah, Microsoft actually gives you two licenses for each purchase (one tied to the online account and the other tied to the original console ID). It's actually more flexible and less restrictive if you know what you're doing... Well, without getting into the 5-console sharing thing which is also pretty neat.
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
PSN outage costing Capcom 'hundreds of thousands, if not millions,' exec says
by James Ransom-Wiley on May 9th 2011 1:30PM
A Capcom-Unity forum user received a surprisingly frank response from senior VP Christian "Sven" Svensson when he asked the executive, "Do you have anything to say about the ordeal going down with hackers messing with [Sony] and stealing information from their servers?" Does he ever!
Svensson, who said he was "frustrated and upset" by last month's breach and subsequent outage, offered a two-fold response, first addressing the question from his consumer perspective. "I also play games online on PS3, which I can't do ... and likely my personal information is also compromised," he lamented. "Secondly I like to buy things in the PlayStation [Store] and that I can't do right now" -- not to mention play Capcom's pair of DRM-protected PSN games offline.
While the gamer in Svensson seems to have a surefire back-up plan (his post signature notes he's currently playing Portal 2 on PC), his corporate officer side has less wiggle room to weather the outage. "On a related note, as an executive responsible for running a business, the resulting outage obviously costing us hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in revenue that were planned for within our budget," he added. "These are funds we rely on to bring new games to market for our fans."
Svensson made no mention of any specific delays, cancellations or business restructuring that might result from the revenue shortfall, nor did he suggest how Capcom might look to recoup the lost revenue. His response also avoided any critique of Sony's handling of the situation, and instead stayed on topic: "CAPCOM- How do you feel about the SONY Hackers?" asks the thread's title.
"In short, the hackers appear to be trying to 'punish' Sony for some perceived injustice, and they've been effective in that I suppose," Svensson concluded. "But they're also punishing millions of other consumers and businesses which makes it impossible to be sympathetic to their 'cause.'"
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
I thought that only happens if you redownload live games onto a second console, and even then you can actually do the process of moving them so they're available offline.
Unlike, say, Capcom's efforts to thwart PSN game sharing with their Final Fight/Magic Sword game on PSN.
Unlike, say, Capcom's efforts to thwart PSN game sharing with their Final Fight/Magic Sword game on PSN.
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
"In short, the hackers appear to be trying to 'punish' Sony for some perceived injustice, and they've been effective in that I suppose," Svensson concluded. "But they're also punishing millions of other consumers and businesses which makes it impossible to be sympathetic to their 'cause.'"
-- not to mention play Capcom's pair of DRM-protected PSN games offline.
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
Looks like someone finally figured out what version of Apache Sony was running. Surprisingly:
http://bitmob.com/articles/detective...ers-up-to-date
The posts are linked to in the original article.
One member of the Beyond3D forum, deathindustrial, was curious about the outdated server software claim and did a very brief amount of very interesting research into the issue....
(Beyond3D's community has a unique combination of technically knowledgable users with a low rate of console fanboyism, allowing for an honest discussion of things like the PSN data breach without the conversation devolving into another proxy battle in the great fanboy wars.)
As it turns out, it is fairly simple to use Google's webcache to show what version of Apache the PSN servers were using back in March. According to a page request archived by Google on March 23, 2011, at that time Sony was running version 2.2.17 of the software. You can see from Apache's website that 2.2.17 is the latest stable version of the webserver available even today. This is a direct repudiation of the claims being made that Sony's webservers were out of date by as much as five years.
Poster deathindustrial also goes on to point out the folly in using "security expert" Dr. Eugene Spafford's testimony before Congress as a source for the claims that the servers were outdated and that Sony knew about it. In the written statement which accompanied his testimony, Spafford clearly states:
"I have no information about what protections they had in place, although some news reports indicate that Sony was running software that was badly out of date and had been warned about that risk."
So he had no first-hand knowledge of the state of Sony's servers or Sony's knowledge about possible exploits, and he was literally repeating claims that he read in the media, which might have stemmed from IRC chat logs that were being passed around back in February. He didn't even do the very basic detective work it would've taken to completely repudiates the claims.
(Beyond3D's community has a unique combination of technically knowledgable users with a low rate of console fanboyism, allowing for an honest discussion of things like the PSN data breach without the conversation devolving into another proxy battle in the great fanboy wars.)
As it turns out, it is fairly simple to use Google's webcache to show what version of Apache the PSN servers were using back in March. According to a page request archived by Google on March 23, 2011, at that time Sony was running version 2.2.17 of the software. You can see from Apache's website that 2.2.17 is the latest stable version of the webserver available even today. This is a direct repudiation of the claims being made that Sony's webservers were out of date by as much as five years.
Poster deathindustrial also goes on to point out the folly in using "security expert" Dr. Eugene Spafford's testimony before Congress as a source for the claims that the servers were outdated and that Sony knew about it. In the written statement which accompanied his testimony, Spafford clearly states:
"I have no information about what protections they had in place, although some news reports indicate that Sony was running software that was badly out of date and had been warned about that risk."
So he had no first-hand knowledge of the state of Sony's servers or Sony's knowledge about possible exploits, and he was literally repeating claims that he read in the media, which might have stemmed from IRC chat logs that were being passed around back in February. He didn't even do the very basic detective work it would've taken to completely repudiates the claims.
The posts are linked to in the original article.
#2940
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
This struck more of lazy configuration (+ cost cutting) rather than an actual full blown exploit attack. Didn't know there was a lot of hoopla around the version of Apache being run.
From the sounds of if, anyone could have grabbed the IPs, ran something as ridiculously simple as a Nessus scan and easily have gotten in with a little additional detective work.
From the sounds of if, anyone could have grabbed the IPs, ran something as ridiculously simple as a Nessus scan and easily have gotten in with a little additional detective work.
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
If my 60GB fat PS3 ever fails, I won't bother to replace it.
#2943
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
I haven't ever run into an issue with the PS3 not playing a BD because of a Firmware Update need (and I have maybe 200+ BD's)
The PS3 is my main BD player for Region-A discs, I have a Curtis Mathes for Region-B stuff.
The PS3 is my main BD player for Region-A discs, I have a Curtis Mathes for Region-B stuff.
#2944
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
The only one I know of in my collection is Sunshine which for some reason they can't seem to fix with an update (which was fucked up because of an update). You have to go thru Fox to get a replacement which is really odd.
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
With the recent $100 off coupon at Gamestop, I'm buying a PS3 tomorrow.
I already picked up 3D Dot Heroes and Heavy Rain...any other suggestions for PS3 Exclusive titles? No shooters...can't stand those.
I already picked up 3D Dot Heroes and Heavy Rain...any other suggestions for PS3 Exclusive titles? No shooters...can't stand those.
#2947
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
If you're into RPG's, God of War III and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow make for some fun ones. No shooters with those. Castlevania isn't PS3 exclusive, but it looks damn good.
#2948
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
R&C has "shooting", but they're more like platform games than shooters.
#2949
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
Played Castlevania on the 360 and sold it after 2 hours. Hated it.
LBP is my next buy. Should I just skip 1 and go for the sequel?
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Re: The Official PS3 thread - Encryption? We don't need no stinkin' encryption.
LBP are both great in theor own right. 2 is not contingent upon 1, so just get 2. But I'm sure 1 is lower in price now.



