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tlwizard 04-25-10 10:31 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by TLwizard (Post 10124814)
Is it possible to create a UK Live account with access from your US console? I know the PS3's really good at this, but am interested in trying it on my 360.

Figured it out. Just as simple as the PS3. Although my fear is that MS would care more about my crossing international lines than Sony.

TheBigDave 04-26-10 04:18 AM

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http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/592...sergraphic.jpg

pinata242 04-26-10 10:31 AM

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I install all the games I'm currently playing to my hard drive. I haven't had this problem on any other title but I haven't played much other than Red Faction the last week or so. Twice I've had the game crash with a "Disc Unreadable" error. Has anyone else had this when playing from the hard drive? I'm not sure what might cause it, but these are the possibilities I see in least-most alarming order:

1) Bad image on the hard drive
2) Periodic DVD check (I don't think it even does this) fails
   a) Bad DVD
   b) Bad DVD Drive
3) Bad sector on the hard drive this image happens to occupy

So, now I'm paranoid that my hard drive has a problem. I guess I need to move all my volatile data (saves, profiles, delilsted XBLA games) off for safe-keeping.

Has anyone else experienced this when playing from the hard drive?

OldBoy 04-26-10 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 10125036)

is there a specific link that gets you right to those deals tomorrow or just regular 360 page on Amazon?

pinata242 04-26-10 11:39 AM

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http://www.amazon.com/games

Seriously, y'all!

Shagrath 04-26-10 12:25 PM

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I'm starting to think that either scott is as old as that thing in his avatar, or he's trolling us all pretty hard.

Michael Corvin 04-26-10 01:09 PM

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How long will this sale last?

pinata242 04-26-10 01:17 PM

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We only know when it starts. Presumably, it goes on forever!

Kicker_of_Elves 04-26-10 04:12 PM

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:suicide:

pinata242 04-26-10 04:15 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10125322)
I install all the games I'm currently playing to my hard drive. I haven't had this problem on any other title but I haven't played much other than Red Faction the last week or so. Twice I've had the game crash with a "Disc Unreadable" error. Has anyone else had this when playing from the hard drive? I'm not sure what might cause it, but these are the possibilities I see in least-most alarming order:

1) Bad image on the hard drive
2) Periodic DVD check (I don't think it even does this) fails
   a) Bad DVD
   b) Bad DVD Drive
3) Bad sector on the hard drive this image happens to occupy

So, now I'm paranoid that my hard drive has a problem. I guess I need to move all my volatile data (saves, profiles, delilsted XBLA games) off for safe-keeping.

Has anyone else experienced this when playing from the hard drive?

Bump.

superfro 04-26-10 04:19 PM

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I usually play whatever I'm currently playing from the HD. I've never had a read error with an installed game.

OldBoy 04-26-10 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 10125548)
I'm starting to think that either scott is as old as that thing in his avatar, or he's trolling us all pretty hard.

neither to be quite frank.

xmiyux 04-26-10 04:31 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by superfro (Post 10126009)
I usually play whatever I'm currently playing from the HD. I've never had a read error with an installed game.

I also have never had a problem playing games from the HDD.

These Gold Box sales always sound so good and then i never find anything i actually want in them. Do they ever do pre-orders? I would love to find UFC 2010 on the cheap.

Or find Deadly Premonition even cheaper. :lol:

foxdvd 04-26-10 04:34 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10125993)
Bump.

never had that problem, and I play all my games from my hard drive...you are already doing this but back up your saves...but you probably already found this thread, but a similar prob...no answer though

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=603719


how full is your hard drive, I do remember one guy saying if your hd is full, it might error....

foxdvd 04-26-10 04:36 PM

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are you saying the error is only happening on Red Faction??? If so, I just played that off the Hard Drive and had no problems.

xmiyux 04-26-10 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by foxdvd (Post 10126048)
are you saying the error is only happening on Red Faction??? If so, I just played that off the Hard Drive and had no problems.

I haven't played RF off my HDD but i would be happy to install it and give it a play this weekend to help get you another data point if you like. :shrug:

foxdvd 04-26-10 04:39 PM

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I also just read that it could be a corrupted save file...

pinata242 04-26-10 05:24 PM

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It's only happens during RF but that might be coincidental as it's pretty much all I've played this week. Save file was never corrupted and because it never happened during saving. Luckily that game is very good about autosaving after you do anything significant so I never lost much time. It was just annoying but I'm more worried about a possible problem with the hdd or console.

I didn't think much of the first occurrence, but the second alarmed me.

MoviePage 04-27-10 07:35 AM

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I always install my current game(s) to the HD, and I didn't have any errors while playing Red Faction. I've seen the error you're talking about before, but I don't remember what game it was. I think it happened a couple of times and then never again, so I don't have any helpful input.

JasonF 04-27-10 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 10125036)

Does everyone get the same deals? In any event, I'm currently showing Bioshock 2 for $40 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 for $46.50. The Bioshock 2 deal is good all day; the other will change throughout the day.

TheBigDave 04-27-10 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 10126983)
Does everyone get the same deals?

Everyone gets the same Gold Box and Lightning deals. The "Quick Picks" at the bottom are unique depending on your Amazon history.

pinata242 04-27-10 10:43 PM

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Back to USB->PC/Mac backups.

Upon discovering the Battlestar Galactica XBLA game was delisted from the Marketplace, I decided to run through my list of everything and make a backup (again of the full USB contents, not individual files) of the stuff that is irreplaceable.

Going off memory, I saved the following things:

Battlestar Galactica (XBLA)
Hexic HD (XBLA)
Juggernaut Playable Character (MUA2 DLC)

Does anyone know of a comprehensive list of things that are no longer available? Also, if you have any questions about this, feel free to ask here or PM me.

pinata242 04-27-10 11:03 PM

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Crap! I forgot about the great Midway expungement! Here's a list of all the delisted games according Wiki:

Battlestar Galactica
Cyberball 2072
Defender
Double Dragon
EA Sports Fantasy Football Live Draft Tracker
EA Sports Fantasy Football Live Score Tracker
Gauntlet
Joust
Lost Cities
Paperboy
Robotron: 2084
Root Beer Tapper
Smash TV
Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
Yaris!

I know they said that if you bought the stuff in the past, it would always be there. I say better safe than sorry.

Kedrix 04-28-10 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10128513)
Crap! I forgot about the great Midway expungement! Here's a list of all the delisted games according Wiki:

Double Dragon
Paperboy
Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe

I know they said that if you bought the stuff in the past, it would always be there. I say better safe than sorry.

Well I don't want to talk about the little Paperboy fiasco again...but neither Double Dragon nor Speedball 2 are Midway...UGH! If I had know they were going to get rid of these two, I would have downloaded them for sure. *sigh*, at least Double Dragon is on Wii VC. I really get frustrated with XBLA sometimes, no wonder my purchasing of games has went way down on there and my Wii VC has by comparison went up. However, Final Fight/Magic Sword & Tecmo Bowl are certainly on my definite maybe list currently. Digital Download really...really....sucks.

pinata242 04-28-10 08:46 AM

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I didn't mean to imply all those games were Midway. I just forgot about the Midway issue and it prompted me to compile that list of everything. I had 4 more (Gauntlet, Joust, Paperboy, and Robotron) to add to my backup plans.

Wii's DRM is way, way worse than Xbox's. On the Xbox you get rights to play your stuff on any console as long as you're signed into live AND anybody can play your stuff on the Xbox it was originally downloaded to (or where the DRM was last transferred). Of course, the only requirement is you actually buy the stuff when it's available.

On the Wii it's tied only to the console. If you want to buy a new black Wii in May, you're fucked. If your Wii dies, you're fucked. Nintendo is capable of helping you transfer your content, but the process has seemed very YMMV and/or pricey from what I've seen.

Kedrix 04-28-10 09:45 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10128912)

Wii's DRM is way, way worse than Xbox's. On the Xbox you get rights to play your stuff on any console as long as you're signed into live AND anybody can play your stuff on the Xbox it was originally downloaded to (or where the DRM was last transferred). Of course, the only requirement is you actually buy the stuff when it's available.

On the Wii it's tied only to the console. If you want to buy a new black Wii in May, you're fucked. If your Wii dies, you're fucked. Nintendo is capable of helping you transfer your content, but the process has seemed very YMMV and/or pricey from what I've seen.

Okay...but if you create an account on your Wii and go to the website, it lists all of the games I've downloaded as far as VC goes. If my Wii died...wouldn't I be able to get those games back based on that account? If I can't, then what is the purpose of it? I'm a little confused since there is a record of what I've done.

pinata242 04-28-10 09:49 AM

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That is better asked in the Wii thread for people that have gone through it.

Decker 04-28-10 12:17 PM

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I was just thinking about this for some reason : The last year of the NFL 2K games (2K5, I think) the game had a feature where you could rip music samples off a CD and insert them into the game. I thought that was awesome - I had the opening of "Lose Yourself" blaring during the pregame warm-ups, the speakers blasted RHCP's "Give It Away" when the home team made an interception, etc. It made the game so much cooler. Has any game done that since?

Raul3 04-28-10 12:55 PM

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No. And I loved that feature too. I used a few Soundgarden songs, for interceptions and stuff like that.

darkside 04-28-10 02:09 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by Kedrix (Post 10129015)
Okay...but if you create an account on your Wii and go to the website, it lists all of the games I've downloaded as far as VC goes. If my Wii died...wouldn't I be able to get those games back based on that account? If I can't, then what is the purpose of it? I'm a little confused since there is a record of what I've done.

You would think that but you can't. I just went through all this on the phone with Nintendo when the DSiXL came out. They flat refused to move my games to a new handheld. The only exception they will make is if your Wii or DSi breaks and you send it to them for repairs. If it is out of warranty you have to pay for the refurb and they will then move the games over. The online record of your purchases is meaningless since it is also tied to one piece of hardware.

The 360 DRM is great by comparison. I download all of my games to the console in the living room and everyone can play them on it. I then take my profile with me and I can play my games on any other Xbox as long as I'm on live. If I want a new Xbox I can move all my games to the new one by myself.

Nintendo's DRM is the worst kind of restrictive bullshit I have ever seen. God forbid I lose my DSi because I will also lose all my games I have downloaded. This is not a problem with the PSP or any other gaming system.

Spiderbite 04-28-10 05:38 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by darkside (Post 10129431)
You would think that but you can't. I just went through all this on the phone with Nintendo when the DSiXL came out. They flat refused to move my games to a new handheld. The only exception they will make is if your Wii or DSi breaks and you send it to them for repairs. If it is out of warranty you have to pay for the refurb and they will then move the games over. The online record of your purchases is meaningless since it is also tied to one piece of hardware.

The 360 DRM is great by comparison. I download all of my games to the console in the living room and everyone can play them on it. I then take my profile with me and I can play my games on any other Xbox as long as I'm on live. If I want a new Xbox I can move all my games to the new one by myself.

Nintendo's DRM is the worst kind of restrictive bullshit I have ever seen. God forbid I lose my DSi because I will also lose all my games I have downloaded. This is not a problem with the PSP or any other gaming system.

Exactly why I never download anything to my Wii or DSi. There are going to be a lot of pissed off people once the above becomes more well known to all the Joe Sixpacks who bought Wiis and downloaded stuff to it.

OldBoy 04-28-10 06:50 PM

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Re: downloads

is it normal for downloads to stop when certain games are booted up and played?

if i have pending downloads and play Borderlands, single player, not online or anything, they always stop. i don't think this has happened with other games, but not sure.

Liver&Onions 04-28-10 06:56 PM

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Some games do connect to the servers regardless, so yeah. that happens on some.

pinata242 04-28-10 07:08 PM

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That's correct. You can easily circumvent the game auto-connecting to their servers by unplugging your network cable. Problem solved :up:

xmiyux 04-28-10 07:11 PM

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Where can i find the network cable for my xbox? I'm in my living room, is it along the wall with the bookshelf or the couch?

pinata242 04-28-10 07:15 PM

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You're going to need a wire hanger, some silly putty, and ass-less chaps and go in through the open disc tray unless you wanna void your warranty!

OldBoy 04-28-10 07:22 PM

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thanks guys.

xmiyux 04-28-10 07:48 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10130008)
You're going to need a wire hanger, some silly putty, and ass-less chaps and go in through the open disc tray unless you wanna void your warranty!

I don't have any wire hangers in my living room. Will padded hangers do or should i go upstairs to get a wire one?

pinata242 04-28-10 07:55 PM

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Put on the chaps and go upstairs. Slowly.

Kicker_of_Elves 04-28-10 08:55 PM

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:lol:


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