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Kelkee 02-19-10 10:39 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Why 360 HDDs Are So Ridiculously Expensive?

- The HDD ships not only with pre-installed software (demos and/or XBLA games), but part of the console's OS itself. This = increased costs.

- The HDD must be coloured and shaped to fit inside the specially-designed housing that ensures only your 360 can use the unit. That's more extra expenditure. This is done by a "Value Added Reseller", who also take care of the HDD's retail packaging.

- Microsoft have at this point paid an estimated $100 (iSuppli can only go estimates, though as specialists in this stuff their numbers won't be far off), and then split the remaining $80 profit with retailers and distributors (a 120GB HDD retails for $180).

Decker 02-19-10 01:34 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
I call BS on part one. It does have some software installed on it for BC, but that can't possibly affect the cost to Microsoft more than a few cents.

RichC2 02-19-10 01:50 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
That's a BS report.

Jeremy517 02-19-10 02:31 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Obviously there are extra costs when compared to a barebones hard drive, but 1) the costs are fixed, irrelevant to the size of the drive 2) the costs are a couple bucks, not $100+. MS could easily sell 1TB drives for the 360 for $100 MSRP and still turn a profit on each one.

JasonF 02-19-10 02:55 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
360 HDDs are so expensive because Microsoft has the ability to exclude non-Microsoft HDDs, which means they have a monopoly, which means they can charge what they want to charge. Sure, you're paying something for the pre-loaded software and the plastic housing that snaps onto the side of your 360, but that's not what's driving the prices.

fumanstan 02-19-10 03:24 PM

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While the price is pretty bad in comparison to a regular hard drive you can buy for your computer off the shelf, it's not really anything new. Paying $30 for an 8MB memory card wasn't exactly a bargain either.

Decker 02-19-10 03:30 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 10008161)
360 HDDs are so expensive because Microsoft has the ability to exclude non-Microsoft HDDs, which means they have a monopoly, which means they can charge what they want to charge. Sure, you're paying something for the pre-loaded software and the plastic housing that snaps onto the side of your 360, but that's not what's driving the prices.

:up: That's the real reason.

Raul3 02-19-10 05:04 PM

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Yeah, if Sony can do it, and not have any issues, Microsoft should be able to do it. I mean, with the PS3 if you use your own hard drive piracy is not easier, there are not more issues with the system failing, games play the same, etc.

Michael Corvin 02-19-10 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 10008397)
Yeah, if Sony can do it, and not have any issues, Microsoft should be able to do it. I mean, with the PS3 if you use your own hard drive piracy is not easier, there are not more issues with the system failing, games play the same, etc.

You only lose all your data if your PS3 fails. Defintely a much better scenario. :up:

Raul3 02-20-10 11:22 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10008429)
You only lose all your data if your PS3 fails. Defintely a much better scenario. :up:

True.

Although since 1999, when I started playing videogames again, I've never had a console die or fail on me. Not the PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360, Gamecube, Wii... maybe I'm that lucky.

boredsilly 02-21-10 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 10010181)
True.

Although since 1999, when I started playing videogames again, I've never had a console die or fail on me. Not the PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360, Gamecube, Wii... maybe I'm that lucky.

The last system I've had issues with was the Turbo Graphix.

Kedrix 02-22-10 10:05 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by boredsilly (Post 10011123)
The last system I've had issues with was the Turbo Graphix.

Oddly enough, I'm scared to touch my Turbo Duo because I'm certain that a cd player can't actually last that long. My 360 has red ringed twice (on #3), and I did have a PS2 (old style) flip out on me but I blame that on myself. Outside of that though, it's been many many years since the NES days when I went through a rash of those.

Raul3 02-22-10 05:32 PM

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Have been enjoying Halo in my PS3.

Spoiler:

Halo Legends blu-ray of course.

Always great to watch the Halo Reach trailer in HD. ;)


Save Ferris 02-23-10 07:12 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
People are always claiming the hard drives 'come with the OS installed' but this is the easiest one to debunk. The 360 runs just fine with no hard drive attached--The OS is internal, not on the drive.

Raul3 02-23-10 10:43 AM

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http://vimeo.com/9666742

Master Chief and Stormtrooper go on a date. You have to be open minded. I think. Or is he a she?

I want a Master Chief costume.

Giantrobo 02-28-10 03:52 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Fuck. My 360 locked up a bunch of times this morning. Once during a game, twice during the boot screen, and once while navigating the LIVE menus.


I guess the Red Ring Stork is on his way. :( I'll keep telling myself that 3 years is a decent life for a 360.

EDIT: Not a red ring but the lower right quadrant went red once and from what I understand this is a hardware failure.

Save Ferris 02-28-10 12:40 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
they still may replace it if you bitch at them. Even out of warranty.Thats always been my experience.

chuckd21 02-28-10 04:27 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Well my 2nd 360 just RRODed in the middle of a Lego Rock Band session. And of course the repair section of the Xbox site is down. I'm getting pissed.

chuckd21 02-28-10 04:43 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
Can anyone access the "My Information" link in the repair section of the Xbox site?

sniper308 02-28-10 05:15 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 10023320)
Can anyone access the "My Information" link in the repair section of the Xbox site?

I was just able to access it...

Giantrobo 02-28-10 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Save Ferris (Post 10022925)
they still may replace it if you bitch at them. Even out of warranty.Thats always been my experience.

I may try that. Thanks.

btbrossard 02-28-10 10:49 PM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 10023542)
I may try that. Thanks.

The official line is that the RROD warranty is three years from date of purchase, but they can be talked into repairing it after that. And they should.

While I love the xBox, it isn't exactly what you would call "quality" hardware.

EDIT: If you got your xBox on 9/27/07 as it states in your sig, you should have no problem getting it fixed by Microsoft.

Giantrobo 03-01-10 12:16 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 

Originally Posted by btbrossard (Post 10023984)
The official line is that the RROD warranty is three years from date of purchase, but they can be talked into repairing it after that. And they should.

While I love the xBox, it isn't exactly what you would call "quality" hardware.

EDIT: If you got your xBox on 9/27/07 as it states in your sig, you should have no problem getting it fixed by Microsoft.


Yeah, we'll see. It may or may not be the console. I'm at their "help with red lights" site and my 360 has given me 1 red light in the lower right quadrant and also 3 red lights. All the "solutions" point towards the power supply. I'm hoping it's just the power supply instead of the console.

But get this...

It has also given me error codes 71 and 79. Supposedly both codes deal with problems with the Dashboard and Hard Drive issues. On the same day all this started I did buy "Blacksite Area 51" which is an older game so I had to take an update with I first played it after I installed it to my Hard Drive.

chuckd21 03-01-10 08:46 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
My coffin shipped this morning from Microsoft. Glad they're still sending out boxes, not glad that they're still sending out boxes...

pinata242 03-01-10 08:50 AM

re: The official Xbox 360 thread - the console of choice on nuclear submarines
 
You were sure playing a lot last night to have a true RROD.


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