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Shagrath 06-11-12 09:04 AM

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Still no word on the Avengers table though. Weird how they let that one slip so far past the movie's release date.

pinata242 06-11-12 09:06 AM

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They're part of the same package.

Shagrath 06-11-12 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11267447)
They're part of the same package.

I thought there was another Marvel "stand alone" table coming, and that was Avengers. Guess I was wrong.

Decker 06-11-12 09:20 AM

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Unfortunately, Zen Pinball 2 has been delayed until the Summer, though. So if I want to play these tables on my Vita (I do) and don't want to pay for them twice (I don't), then I have to buy it for Marvel Pinball PSN DLC, which wouldn't be a terrible thing, but all the Leaderboards will be reset once ZP2 does get released. Not sure how they'll handle trophies for these tables either. It's not the end of the world, but a little disappointing that they couldn't release ZP2 simultaneously like they had planned.

Kedrix 06-11-12 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 11267444)
Still no word on the Avengers table though. Weird how they let that one slip so far past the movie's release date.

They'll probably let it go ahead now and coincide with the release of the DVD/Blu-Ray, that's what I would do. Hopefully this means that they are tweaking it so that it is as good as it looks from screenshots. We can only hope.

pinata242 06-11-12 10:07 AM

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Both The Avengers and Infinity Gauntlet (as well as World War Hulk and Fear Itself) will release next week together as part of The Avengers Chronicles 4-table pack.

pinata242 06-14-12 09:38 AM

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Ouch! http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/106...-twilight-zone

The Twilight Zone and not-very-well-advertised-or-explained-ST:TNG campaign for TPA actually lost money yesterday! WHAT?!

Granted it's not going to come anywhere near hitting the $110k "stretch goal", but this is a bad sign. I hope they don't somehow dip below the original $55k since they signed the licensing contract about a week ago even before funding.

What a clusterfuck.

chuckd21 06-14-12 10:18 AM

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I don't understand what I'm supposed to be seeing. It looks like $152 was removed from the total, probably from a fraudulent credit card or two.

pinata242 06-14-12 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11271719)
I don't understand what I'm supposed to be seeing. It looks like $152 was removed from the total, probably from a fraudulent credit card or two.

No, it's people removing pledges. The comments are rife with "debate" over it.

Can't be fraudulent credit cards yet because those won't be hit until the campaign is over, right?

This website just tracks the daily progress and trends.

chuckd21 06-14-12 10:35 AM

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The comments section is just a shining example of people who are unable to read and/or see conspiracy theories in everything.

superfro 06-15-12 12:39 PM

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Hey dudes...spoiler:
Spoiler:
The Infinity Gauntlet table is awesome.

pinata242 06-15-12 12:47 PM

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I'm so glad I'm not in a position to get early access anymore because I totally have other gaming planned this weekend and having those tables would wreck all of that.

superfro 06-15-12 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11273078)
I'm so glad I'm not in a position to get early access anymore because I totally have other gaming planned this weekend and having those tables would wreck all of that.

And I'm going out of town. FML. (To see Ron Swanson though. And to try and be just a bit more like you. ;))

pinata242 06-15-12 12:53 PM

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I had this shirt at the time, but I thought wearing it to that party a little tacky.

http://www.teefury.com/products_imag...446_TOP_27.jpg

superfro 06-15-12 12:56 PM

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Uh..yeah. Just a bit. :lol:

Liver&Onions 06-16-12 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by superfro (Post 11273067)
Hey dudes...spoiler:
Spoiler:
The Infinity Gauntlet table is awesome.

Word.

Decker 06-19-12 06:52 PM

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Man, I had totally forgotten about the Avengers tables finally coming out today for PSN. Thanks to the upcoming Vita versions, I'll be buying this for Zen Pinball tonight. Looking forward to trying them out.

In case anybody was still unsure of the details regarding Zen Pinball 2, I've copied the FAQs below:

Spoiler:

Frequently asked questions:

1. How do I get the free Zen Pinball 2 upgrade?


Simply download Zen Pinball 2 from the PlayStation Store when it releases, and all of your Zen Pinball and Marvel Pinball tables will be unlocked within Zen Pinball 2.

2. I’m AMAZING at Zen Pinball! What about my trophies and scores? What happens to them?

All of your old Zen Pinball scores and trophies will remain intact. However, they will not carry over to the new platform.

3. What will happen to Zen Pinball and Marvel Pinball? Where will all my tables go?

Zen Pinball and Marvel Pinball will remain on your PS3 as is. All of your Zen Pinball and Marvel tables will also show up in Zen Pinball 2 under one roof and totally updated. All tables will also be available on the PS Vita as well! You only have to purchase them once and you get them on PS3 and Vita.

4. Do I have to post scores to Facebook?

You don’t have to if you don’t want to. This feature is optional.

5. Can I play it on the Vita with the screen held vertically in portrait mode?

Yes! That is one of the best parts of playing on the Vita! Go for it!

6. Can I remap the controls?

Yes! You can map the flippers to directional buttons (left flipper) and circle button (right flipper). You can also control the flipper from the front or rear touch panels as well. The default control for the flippers is the two shoulder buttons.

7. Can I play my own music while I play Zen Pinball 2?

Yes!

8. I am a PS+ subscriber and I have bought tables through PS+, will I lose those tables?


Of course not! All tables will transfer over to the new platform with updated physics.

9. Wait!! I haven’t bought all the tables from Zen Pinball yet! Can I still do that on ZP2?

Yes! Please do!

10. I don’t have Zen Pinball, just Marvel Pinball. How does Zen Pinball 2 affect me?

You still get the upgrade for free! ZP2 is bringing all the Marvel Tables and Zen Pinball tables together with playable demos for each table, so if you do not yet have any tables from Zen Studios, it’s time to check them out!

11. Should I delete Marvel Pinball and Zen Pinball after I update to ZP2?

That’s up to you. You don’t need to. If you’d like to keep your old scores and trophies, don’t delete them.

12. I would love to show my friends how awesome I am at pinball. What about multiplayer?

There will be local split screen multiplayer available on ZP2 for the PS3, and online multiplayer that allow you to set parameters for a game such as what score to play to and ball loss penalties.

13. WHEN does Zen Pinball 2 release?

We are hoping to have Zen Pinball 2 out in May!
(Now delayed to "Summer" time frame)

14. I live in Europe! When do I get to play?

Zen Pinball 2 will release in Europe and North America during the same week.

15. Are there any new tables coming to Zen Pinball 2?

Yes! Marvel Pinball: Avengers Chronicles will release with Zen Pinball 2. This new four table pack includes World War Hulk, Fear Itself, The Infinity Gauntlet, and Marvel’s The Avengers, based on the new movie from Marvel Entertainment.

16. Will there be DLC for Zen Pinball 2?

Of course! We will be supporting Zen Pinball 2 with regular DLC updates!

chuckd21 06-20-12 09:42 AM

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I guess the guy in charge of achievements at Zen decided "Fuck it!" and made the simplest 50 point achievements he could.

superfro 06-20-12 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11278616)
I guess the guy in charge of achievements at Zen decided "Fuck it!" and made the simplest 50 point achievements he could.

And I'd like to send that dude a personal thank you. :cool:

While I think Infinity Gauntlet is the most visual striking, and maybe most interesting, I think World War Hulk is my current fave. The Avengers table is ridiculously awesome too though. LOVE the storytelling from the movie they do with that one.

pinata242 06-20-12 10:04 AM

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Well, it is an "XBLA" game with over 1,500gs and nearly 100 achievements. I'm sure it's not a Zen decision so much as a MS limitation/restriction. Sounds like we're running out of room for achievements in this shell.

chuckd21 06-20-12 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by superfro (Post 11278620)
And I'd like to send that dude a personal thank you. :cool:

While I think Infinity Gauntlet is the most visual striking, and maybe most interesting, I think World War Hulk is my current fave. The Avengers table is ridiculously awesome too though. LOVE the storytelling from the movie they do with that one.

Hulk is the only one I got to play this morning before work, but it's just what I like: ramps everywhere.

chuckd21 06-20-12 10:38 AM

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Also, the Xbox system update this morning seems to have borked some things. There are no leaderboards at the moment, and my achievement doesn't seem to have registered.

Decker 06-20-12 10:46 AM

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I played each table once this morning. Really liked WW Hulk as well -- it's not what I would have expected from a Hulk table (smashing things), but it's more traditional and that's fine with me. I liked that you play some of the game on an MSG-inspired basketball court; have no idea what that's about, but it was a cool sub-table. Infinity Gauntlet was interesting and gorgeous, but seems like Epic Quest where it's confusing at first until you know what's going on. Avengers is really cool and choosing the ball to use is a very cool new feature. Wasn't too fond of Fear Itself, but don't know that story or theme at all -- maybe that would have made it more appealing to me.


Please PSN peeps : add me to your Friends list and get these tables. I miss having a huge list of Friends' scores to aspire to. With the free Vita version coming, I'm going Zen 2/PSN for all future Zen releases and really miss the social aspect.

pinata242 06-20-12 03:33 PM

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Back to Pinball Arcade, according to their latest FB post:


We're happy to announce that the update of the Pinball Arcade for iOS (iPhone and iPad) is now available in both free and paid versions. We're also very excited that the paid version will become the iOS App Store's Free App of the Week for a week starting tomorrow! We hope this exposes many new people to our obsession with classic pinball. At Apple's request we will remove the free version from the store for a week during the promotion to avoid confusion. Apple says that our customers who have previously downloaded the free version will continue to have access to the update and in-app purchases during this time, but they didn't seem too sure of themselves- we recommend that everyone using the free version update their app (and buy the new tables if you want them) sometime today just in case you loose the ability to do so for a week. And if you've been on the fence about joining our community on iOS then this next week will be a great time to do so- you'll get the paid version of the app (along with the great Tales of the Arabian Nights table) for free!

Jcheckel 06-20-12 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 11278695)
Please PSN peeps : add me to your Friends list and get these tables. I miss having a huge list of Friends' scores to aspire to. With the free Vita version coming, I'm going Zen 2/PSN for all future Zen releases and really miss the social aspect.

I'll add you next time I'm on there, I've been picking up the tables on both since the systems are in different rooms, and they're cheap enough that I don't mind double buying to support a small company.

Shagrath 06-21-12 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11278636)
Well, it is an "XBLA" game with over 1,500gs and nearly 100 achievements. I'm sure it's not a Zen decision so much as a MS limitation/restriction. Sounds like we're running out of room for achievements in this shell.

From what I read on GAF just now (not sure if it's 100%), MS has a limit of 99 achievements on a single game. So PFX2 is getting near their limit, and therefore trying to cut down and conserve them a little bit.

Decker 06-21-12 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11279120)
Back to Pinball Arcade, according to their latest FB post:


Quote:
We're happy to announce that the update of the Pinball Arcade for iOS (iPhone and iPad) is now available in both free and paid versions. We're also very excited that the paid version will become the iOS App Store's Free App of the Week for a week starting tomorrow! We hope this exposes many new people to our obsession with classic pinball. At Apple's request we will remove the free version from the store for a week during the promotion to avoid confusion. Apple says that our customers who have previously downloaded the free version will continue to have access to the update and in-app purchases during this time, but they didn't seem too sure of themselves- we recommend that everyone using the free version update their app (and buy the new tables if you want them) sometime today just in case you loose the ability to do so for a week. And if you've been on the fence about joining our community on iOS then this next week will be a great time to do so- you'll get the paid version of the app (along with the great Tales of the Arabian Nights table) for free!

It is free now. It's strange : They have like 12 tables available for purchase on iOS, but still haven't brought a single DLC table to PSN or Xbox Marketplace. I wonder what the hold up is? Anyway, that Monster Mash table (using the Universal classic monsters) is awesome. Too bad the ball physics on the iOS version is so wonky. I'll get that table for sure when it hits PSN

Jcheckel 06-21-12 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 11279770)
From what I read on GAF just now (not sure if it's 100%), MS has a limit of 99 achievements on a single game. So PFX2 is getting near their limit, and therefore trying to cut down and conserve them a little bit.

That's what they said on the Zen forums as well, that they want to conserve them. I sort of wish they would have kept it at 3 goals per table in the game at least even if there wasn't an achievement to go with each one. And if they were going to go with the easy achievements for this set, to conserve what they have left even more, they should have just had one 50 pointer for the set of 4 when the goal was reached on each table.

Jcheckel 06-21-12 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 11280001)
It is free now. It's strange : They have like 12 tables available for purchase on iOS, but still haven't brought a single DLC table to PSN or Xbox Marketplace. I wonder what the hold up is? Anyway, that Monster Mash table (using the Universal classic monsters) is awesome. Too bad the ball physics on the iOS version is so wonky. I'll get that table for sure when it hits PSN

I think the first 2 packs of tables are going to be on PSN next week. Not sure about the Xbox ones. They said part of their problem with XBOX was the title update that allows for the DLC was too big so it was rejected by MS.

shumway 06-21-12 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 11280001)
It is free now. It's strange : They have like 12 tables available for purchase on iOS, but still haven't brought a single DLC table to PSN or Xbox Marketplace. I wonder what the hold up is? Anyway, that Monster Mash table (using the Universal classic monsters) is awesome. Too bad the ball physics on the iOS version is so wonky. I'll get that table for sure when it hits PSN

They just put an update out yesterday or the day before supposedly to fix issues w/ Monster Bash.

My brother and I have a deal. I buy all of the Zen tables on iOS and he buys the Pinball Arcade titles. We didn't set out that way on purpose, it just happened organically. So far I think I'm ahead on that one.

I had a helluva time getting Circus Voltaire to work on my new iPad. Finally working though. I think that is one of my favorite of the available tables, though Monster Bash and Theatre of Magic are definitely up there as well.

chuckd21 06-21-12 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcheckel (Post 11280013)
I think the first 2 packs of tables are going to be on PSN next week. Not sure about the Xbox ones. They said part of their problem with XBOX was the title update that allows for the DLC was too big so it was rejected by MS.

The latest:

DLC Tables Pack #1 Release Dates : Medieval Madness and The Machine : Bride of Pin•Bot are AVAILABLE NOW! on Android, iOS, Kindle Fire and PS Vita (NA). They should also be available on Mac by the end of next week, PS3 (NA) on June 26th and Xbox 360 by mid July.

DLC Tables Pack #2 Release Dates : Cirqus Voltaire and Funhouse are AVAILABLE NOW! on Android, iOS and Kindle Fire. They should also be available on Mac by the end of next week, PS3 (NA) and PS Vita (NA) on June 26th and Xbox 360 by mid July.

DLC Tables Pack #3 Release Dates : Gorgar and Monster Bash are AVAILABLE NOW! on Android and iOS. They should also be available on Kindle Fire by the end of next week, Xbox 360 by mid July and Mac, PS3 (NA) and PS Vita (NA) by the end of July.

Decker 06-21-12 10:58 AM

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Wow, sure enough the first pack is available on the Vita. Since it's not on the PS3 PSN store, I just assumed it wouldn't be on the Vita either. I'll buy pack 2 next week for the PS3/Vita, but not sure about pack one as Medieval Madness seemed pretty generic. I'm downloading the Vita update right now and will (hopefully) be able to demo the tables. I'll post here to confirm whether demos are available for new DLC tables on the Vita after the game updates.


edit : Nope. Trial versions of DLC tables not available on the Vita. :sad:

Decker 06-26-12 11:01 PM

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Well, I bought Circus Voltaire and Funhouse and downloaded them for the PS3 (which is only a 100 kb unlock key), but it doesn't do anything. There seems to be no way to buy DLC in game or download an update to the game. For as much as I complain about forced PSN updates, one here would be sort of useful. I can play the tables on the Vita (Circus Voltaire is a cool and unique table, but damn it's got a huge gap between the flippers), but I can't for the life of me figure out how to play them on the PS3.
Piñata, are you sure these are the guys you want to throw a C-note at?

pinata242 06-26-12 11:16 PM

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I backed my pledge way down. Back to $25 before the end of the campaign. Shady, but I didn't like how the addition of st:tng was mishandled.

Glad I did because while I think the preservation of tables is important, I got the free version on iOS and hated how it plays on the iPhone. I expect it's different on the iPad and the consoles, but I haven't bothered to try those again.

I'm happy with Zen's awesome impossible tables. Speaking of which, we are coming up on 3 months since Zen teased the PopCap table with no news. That makes me anxious.

neilo13 06-27-12 10:04 AM

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For the PS3 versions of the add-ons you will need to redownload the demo (i had to google this last night). Once you re-install the demo the new tables will be available. It seems there was a bug and when more tables are released this will no longer be necessary.

FYI, buying the PS3 add-ons also gives you those tables on the vita. I don't have a vita and don't plan on getting one, but I like this idea.

Decker 06-29-12 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by neilo13 (Post 11287079)
For the PS3 versions of the add-ons you will need to redownload the demo (i had to google this last night). Once you re-install the demo the new tables will be available. It seems there was a bug and when more tables are released this will no longer be necessary.

FYI, buying the PS3 add-ons also gives you those tables on the vita. I don't have a vita and don't plan on getting one, but I like this idea.

Thank you. It's idiotic, but re-downloading the demo fixed everything with the game and it works now.

I might have been Scrooge-like with their Kickstarter plan, but I'm happy to buy their actual tables. Got all the DLC and I like those new tables very much. I never knew anything about Bride of Pin-bot, but it's actually a cool and different table. I'd forgotten how cool Medieval Madness was. It's pretty similar to the Excalibur table on Zen, but that's hardly their fault.

pinata242 06-29-12 11:14 AM

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Well, Zen does get inspiration from real world tables they don't have licenses for, so that's not unexpected.

Decker 06-29-12 11:33 AM

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That's fine. It's not a direct rip-off, just pretty similar. I guess my point was that I almost didn't buy the Medieval Madness/ Bride of Pin-bot package since I already had Excalibur on the PS3 (and will soon have it for the Vita as well, when ZP2 finally comes out), but the demo for "Bride" was cool enough and unique enough to get me to spend an extra $5 on the package.

That Circus Voltaire is a really cool table -- different and fun. It's really small and hard to see on the Vita, but on the HDTV that low-level dot-matrix display they have on that table really makes for more comfortable and easy viewing of your missions and such. I imagine in an arcade, having it so low is probably undesirable, but for the home video pinball game, it works surprisingly well.

Even though it takes forever to read through, I like the way Pinball Arcade instructs you on the table goals and missions. By focusing on each ramp you need, they make it really clear what you need to do for every table. If you take the time, it makes the mysteries of each table much clearer.

Man, how I'd love to someday get that Billion-point shot in Bride of Pin-bot! -pray-

neilo13 07-03-12 09:10 AM

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Acutually, the dot matrix display on Cirqus Voltaire is projected onto the back of the playfield via mirror, it's a really cool effect in person, but is actually harder to read, depending on the environment lighting, than the virtual table.

Kedrix 07-13-12 10:13 AM

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So, hopefully a few more of you got the Avengers pack for Pinball FX..(since if you get it this month as part of Xbox Live Rewards, you get 200 points back, yes its now confirmed). I've played the Avengers and World War Hulk tables and while I do like both...is it just me or are the out lanes (what I call the lanes that automatically give you a ball out and not allow you to use your flippers) ridiculous in Avengers? It seems like the slightest incorrect movement, bam! I love the choice of balls, my favorite seems to be Iron Man or Hulk...but geez.

It's not great in WW Hulk either, but at least it is liveable (the only thing that gets me in that one is that the phrases are way too few but on the upside, it makes me want to watch/read Planet Hulk again, they really need to do a animated movie sequel to Planet Hulk). I know I need to play the other two tables, but usually I'll try to play a couple of them to death at a time before I move on.


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