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starman9000 04-22-10 01:19 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
Yep, really a sniper isn't anything special for my character, I just find it handy for distance and had found a good one early. A combat rifle would make more sense for, but I don't really like juggling my mods too much. So I focus on pumping up my shotgun instead and use a variety of those in most situations. Early on the Sniper was used a lot more though.

K&AJones 04-22-10 01:31 PM

Re: Borderlands
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 10119406)
so soldier can use shotgun and sniper weapon? i think i will pop it in for a bit later and get started.

Yea...you can use any weapon but again some mods enhance certain types even more.

Say you have the Soldier and use a pistol. You may have a mod for "Team Extra Damage + 20" and Team +25 Shield" which is ok

But the Hunter has mods that may say "+60 Pistol Fire Rate and + 11 Ammo Regeneration and +10 Damage"

Same say with the Siren. The "Hellfire SMG's" are a must thruout the game and most everyone has one. However the Siren has mods that will add say "+40 SMG Damage and +25 Shield Boost".

OldBoy 04-22-10 01:38 PM

Re: Borderlands
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 10119478)
Yea...you can use any weapon but again some mods enhance certain types even more.

Say you have the Soldier and use a pistol. You may have a mod for "Team Extra Damage + 20" and Team +25 Shield" which is ok

But the Hunter has mods that may say "+60 Pistol Fire Rate and + 11 Ammo Regeneration and +10 Damage"

Same say with the Siren. The "Hellfire SMG's" are a must thruout the game and most everyone has one. However the Siren has mods that will add say "+40 SMG Damage and +25 Shield Boost".

man...all that you say above is so alien and confusing to me. i really hope the in-game does some good explanations of what to do and how to do everything you describe.

i love shotgun weapons in games. that was my favorite in Halo and RE 4 as well. but there is also nothing like setting up for a nice distance shot for accuracy and instant kills.

pinata242 04-22-10 01:40 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
With my Siren, I used the shotgun almost exclusively for the first 1/3 of the game until the SMG specialization really started to kick in.

If you prefer shotguns and assault rifles, then definitely go with a Solider class. Or have two characters, I don't care.

starman9000 04-22-10 02:20 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
If you get a canon early, use nothing but that, once you get high enough proficiency you will be unstoppable. :P

Seriously though, the game doesn't really lay out what you should or shouldn't be doing, you get tons of loot and some of it won't apply to your character. You can kill the game by over analyzing which gun to use and swapping guns out for different types of enemies IMO. I'm sure I will need to do it more as I continue in Playthrough 2, but through the first, I never really found a ton of advantage by swapping between the different elementals instead of just sticking with the most powerful (that can be hard to determine though)

OldBoy 04-22-10 06:56 PM

Just played Borderlands for the 1st time!
 
so i played about 2 hours or so. really was having a good time. trying to dissect it all though which i think took a bit out of me. Leveled up to 4. don't know if that is good or not...

got a nice sniper gun, couple different repeaters, rusty machine gun, another that had like 92% accuracy, one that had 9 x2 damage.

will i find out later how to increase those in terms of strength and stuff? can't do it now i believe.

it makes a difference where on the enemy's body i hit them right? i got "Critical Hits" and thought those would kill enemies instantly, but it didn't. are those just more damage points? (did check the wiki on most this stuff as well).

so basically in the beginning i do these missions for Dr. Zed, complete and go back to him for reward and next mission?

just want to make sure i am on the right track.

nice side track from Dead Space for awhile. might play a little more, but don't want to get too much ahead and leave DS behind as i am loving that.

starman9000 04-22-10 07:03 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
Yeah, each enemy has a different critical location, it's just more damage.

pinata242 04-22-10 07:05 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
You can't change the guns at all. When we say "mods", we're talking about character mods. They're another type of item you'll get later.

Guns never change from when you find them. You'll have to choose if the next gun's fire rate or clip size increase is worth the decrease in accuracy, for example.

OldBoy 04-22-10 08:49 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
^ ah, ok. makes sense. guns stay the same, i just get many many many different ones (that have already set damage/accuracy/rate of fire/etc) throughout the game that i can use, try out, see if i like and keep or not.

how many guns will i eventually be able to carry with me at all times in my backpack and can put to the 1 of 4 slots and switch with Y button?

pinata242 04-22-10 09:01 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
Backpack holds 42 slots, iirc. DLC may change this. It won't be just guns, though. Guns, shields, mods, and grenade mods will be in there.

starman9000 04-23-10 03:42 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
Tried Crawermax for the first time last night and successfully pulled off the ledge thing. I didn't have anything good to hit his back with, and it was really late, so I eventually just quit. Now I can't get the ledge thing to work today when I actually have time to put into it. :(

OldBoy 04-23-10 06:54 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
ok, i'm hooked! i knew i shouldn't have started this. now, i will never go back to Dead Space.

having too much fun running around, not knowing what the hell i'm doing and doing all these missions. killing skags, bandits, and now these little midget psychos! man they are tough. i unload round after round and they still keep coming. haven't figured out there critical hit yet so that may be the problem.

but, where is all the money? i am level 6 and i got like no money. i bought some healths and shields, but i got like nothing. does this increase eventually? and when will i be and how do i open up more slots in my backpack?

pinata242 04-23-10 06:56 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
Headshots.

Sell things you don't need for money.

As you progress you'll find broken Claptraps you can get a Repair Quest from. Completing those quests grant you 3 backpack slots each. I think the first one in Sledge's Safehouse, iirc.

starman9000 04-23-10 06:58 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
Money will come, I don't think I've ever purchased a health pack. You get your money from selling more than from cash laying around. Don't be afraid to sell good stuff. If you have a gun that's too high level for you, chances are you'll find another one by that time (though that's not a promise).

As for the back packs, if a clap trap asks for help, you should oblige.

OldBoy 04-23-10 07:07 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
i've been selling extra repeater guns, but they fetch nothing. it's funny i bought the health packs and never used them yet. by the time i need it or realize i can use it i am dead!

i guess it will all come in time you guys are saying. i only just got to Skag Gully and have to kill None-Toes, so i guess still in the beginning...

starman9000 04-23-10 07:08 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
Yeah, I don't like them. Especially because they take up valuable back pack space.

OldBoy 04-23-10 07:15 PM

Re: Borderlands
 

Originally Posted by starman9000 (Post 10122326)
Yeah, I don't like them. Especially because they take up valuable back pack space.

like what...repeater guns or health packs?

Michael Corvin 04-23-10 07:29 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
^health packs.

xmiyux 04-23-10 07:31 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
My biggest complaint about Borderlands was all the snipe hunting.

Have you got to those missions yet Scott? They are kind of early (but after Nine-Toes).

pinata242 04-23-10 07:32 PM

Re: Borderlands
 
I wish New-U Stations were real :(

victant 04-23-10 08:58 PM

Re: Borderlands
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10122367)
I wish New-U Stations were real :(

Except having to pay >$9 mil a pop.... ;)

As for me, sign me up for free fast travel!! :up:

OldBoy 04-24-10 09:38 AM

Re: Borderlands
 

Originally Posted by xmiyux (Post 10122366)
My biggest complaint about Borderlands was all the snipe hunting.

Have you got to those missions yet Scott? They are kind of early (but after Nine-Toes).

no, i am just up to Nine-Toes, but i have been sniping bandits and midget psychos from afar. that was pretty cool.

i thought New-U Stations were in the game? that is where i respawn and change character image; as well as, been able to travel from Arid Badlands to the Zombie Island download...

starman9000 04-24-10 09:44 AM

Re: Borderlands
 
You are still kind of in an extended tutorial. The NU stations will get more important eventually.


A few more friends got this last night, it's definitly a bigger blast playing with 4 dudes at once. I started up a Siren, so that's taking some adjusting too.

xmiyux 04-24-10 09:45 AM

Re: Borderlands
 
Then you haven't gotten to the snipe hunt bit yet. It is kind of a pain since it is a whole small quest line of ridiculous fetching, collecting, and such to actually catch the snipe.

Thankfully they are optional and only really important if you are a completionist.

OldBoy 04-24-10 09:50 AM

Re: Borderlands
 

Originally Posted by xmiyux (Post 10122848)
Then you haven't gotten to the snipe hunt bit yet. It is kind of a pain since it is a whole small quest line of ridiculous fetching, collecting, and such to actually catch the snipe.

Thankfully they are optional and only really important if you are a completionist.

that's another thing wondered...will i know which missions are optional and which are part of the main story?


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