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Old 10-28-08 | 01:22 PM
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My wife's very understanding. There are very few things going on in our lives that can't wait for 5 minutes while I finish up a song. If it's something super-important, then she'll let me know that I need to pause.
No explanation necessary, I was just taking an opportunity to take a jab at Florida
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Old 10-28-08 | 01:32 PM
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While I admit it is a nice feature, I don't let anything interrupt me while playing.

If the phone rings, they'll leave a message if important.
If my wife says something, she can wait until the song's over.
If someone's at the door, I'll walk over to the door and open it while playing if I can.

Your score and percentage are still going to be lower than if you had played the song all the way through, so you'll end up playing it again anyways.
Why would your score and percentage be lower? I paused several times while playing, and was always able to pick up again without breaking my combo. Am I just that good?

Now, if you're talking about RB2, then, yes, it is very difficult to pause and pick up again without losing your combo (unless you're playing guitar on Let There Be Rock or that Beck song), but on GHWT the timer lets you pick up right where you left off without a hitch.
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Old 10-28-08 | 01:35 PM
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Why would your score and percentage be lower? I paused several times while playing, and was always able to pick up again without breaking my combo. Am I just that good?

Now, if you're talking about RB2, then, yes, it is very difficult to pause and pick up again without losing your combo (unless you're playing guitar on Let There Be Rock or that Beck song), but on GHWT the timer lets you pick up right where you left off without a hitch.
I haven't played enough GH:WT to really try this, but based on experience, I could possibly "lose the groove" when something/someone interrupts me in the middle of a song.
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Old 10-28-08 | 01:37 PM
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Neither game allows you to get into the grove before unpausing.

GH:WT at least gives you 4 seconds of unobstructed view of the upcoming notes and allows you to reset your hand positions before it just turns back on.

The best solution, imo, would be to back the note charts up 4 seconds and grey out the notes you've already played/missed and consider your input as no-ops until you get back to the original point of pausing when the notes re-enable. This would allow you to get back into the groove.

But what GH does is a major improvement over RB's pausing. There's not even an argument here.

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Old 10-28-08 | 02:06 PM
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The problem is that if you had waited 48 hours you would have had a supported fix from Activision.

Now you have pretty much voided your warranty.
The difference between before I applied the fix and now was night and day. I doubt any sensitivity calibrations could achieve what I did manually because the sensors seem to be installed in a really crappy manner.

Time will tell which is the better method of repairing the drums....
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Old 10-28-08 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleGramps
After playing a bunch of GH:WT and then going back to RB2, it's a pretty stark contrast. RB2 is much more polished in general, and the interface/menus are so much cleaner and easier to navigate.

GH:WT's biggest advantage is the character creator. Other than that, I think RB beats it in every other respect. Musical tastes are subjective, so it may come down to which setlist you prefer. Overall I like RB's catalog better, but GH:WT has gems like Beat It, Hotel California, Re-Education Through Labor, Hey Man Nice Shot, etc., which make it worthwhile for me. That being said, I will probably not buy much DLC for it - only the exclusive stuff that I really enjoy outside of the game - since I expect to focus my time on RB once I play through WT's on-disc setlist.

The overall reception to the game seems kind of mediocre at best, which I honestly wasn't expecting. Very few people seem to be really excited about it.
So, you like the game, but not too much, and you agree that RB is way better, but you're confused by the mediocre reception?

It seems pretty straight forward to me. GHIII was just another Guitar Hero game. Yes, it added stupid boss battles, but for the most part you knew exactly what you were getting. It didn't deviate much from the formula. And those looking for more songs to play on Guitar Hero appreciated that. Rock Band was new and different, but not perfect. It had flaws, obvious ones, and some of those made people prefer GHIII. But Rock Band 2 addressed almost all of the concerns, and offered up some cool new features. GHWT, coming in the wake of Rock Band 2, can be seen as nothing but a disappointment. Hell, GHWT has problems that weren't even in RB1, so it doesn't just feel like a step down, but a step backwards.

Here's a question I have for anyone who has downloaded Death Magnetic or any of the music studio creations: Is there a way to integrate DLC into the main career modes, or is it only playable through quick play? If it's the latter, that would take WT down a few more notches in my book, as integrating DLC into the main game is part of what makes RB so great. You can download new songs and they become part of the experience, not relegated off to the side.

Also, anyone else notice that Go Your Own Way in WT alternates between the electric and acoustic guitar parts, while in RB you only play the electric? I thought that was the most interesting of the duplicates for that reason.
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Old 10-28-08 | 03:31 PM
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The career path seems pretty static to me. There's a create-your-own gig at the end that you can probably select DLC that way, but you're not going to get a Death Magnetic gig ever. Hell, you can only select 6 songs for a gig so you'll have a forced intermission (or two?) to create it on your own anyway.
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Old 10-28-08 | 03:39 PM
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So, you like the game, but not too much, and you agree that RB is way better, but you're confused by the mediocre reception?
Yeah, I do like the game, but I feel that it has a lot of flaws, and I do think RB is significantly better. My surprise about the mediocre reception stems from the fact that many people (but not me) seemed to really like GH3. I sort of expected that a lot of people would really like World Tour too just based on how past entries in the series have been received by the public.
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I understand that. I actually like WT more than GHIII, but a great all around experience it is not.
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Old 10-28-08 | 03:56 PM
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WT is an improvement over GH3. GH just hasn't evolved well as a series.
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Old 10-28-08 | 04:00 PM
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If RB didn't exist, let alone RB2, GHWT would be just fine. But it shows they're either stuck or unwilling to change the nature of the game to be a party game.
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Old 10-28-08 | 04:14 PM
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If RB didn't exist, let alone RB2, GHWT would be just fine. But it shows they're either stuck or unwilling to change the nature of the game to be a party game.
Sure it would be a decent step forward (in most cases). However, I think most peoples complaints would still stand, regardless if there was competition that did it better or not.
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Even if RB didn't exist, I think a lot of the issues would still be a point of contention with users. The way you unlock songs, for example, or the failure of one means the failure of all mechanic in band mode.
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Well, as someone who preferred GH3 over RB, I wouldn't say I'm disappointed by GH:WT. Drum issue aside, I got the high quality instruments I expected and a fantastic set-list. But I think most of the problem comes from the fact that I really underestimated RB2. They really stepped it up a notch over their previous outing, IMO. The Music Editor, I'm still reserving judgment on, before writing it off as underwhelming.

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Also, Schism is awesome. That is all.
*Nods* All of the Tool songs were, surprisingly, a blast. Even on guitar. :P
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Old 10-28-08 | 04:39 PM
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For me, Guitar Hero games will be treated as track packs with achievement points...all of my DLC dollars will go to RB.
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IF RB didn't exist, I would be a lot more upset at the omissions/lack of polish in WT.
As it is, WT is a nice adjunct and fun in its own right, but RB2 is the platform of choice.

UncleGramps, I agree about the spastic drum freakout at the end of Stranglehold.
That really pissed me off when I failed at 99% heh. That's a cool song but Mr. Nugent
isn't exactly one of the most exciting lead guitarists around, it does drag on a little bit.
Is it just me or does the character look nothing like him?\

Flashburn I have Death Magnetic and I would say it's definitely worth getting.
Not only is it their best album since AJFA (IMO) but the great thing about
Metallica is that their stuff is really fun to play. Also can be quite a challenge obviously.

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Old 10-28-08 | 05:20 PM
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So I tried out the ION kit after the patch. It does work fine as a 4 pad setup, however the velocity sensitive portion of it is completely disabled. That is a shame, since that actually seemed to work before the update.
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Has anybody seen this?

http://www.amazon.com/Gene-Simmons-A...5230865&sr=1-2

That's pretty badass. I'd consider getting it if it was for the 360. Amazon only has it for the PS2-3 and the Wii.
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Old 10-28-08 | 06:09 PM
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I'm actually a little concerned. I called RedOctane and they were sending me the software they said for the tuner. How exactly am I supposed to connect it to my PC?
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Old 10-28-08 | 06:23 PM
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After reading this thread, I am so torn about getting this game. I have rock band so I'm just debating on picking up GHWT game only instead of the set. I have the set waiting for Best Buy in store pick-up.
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Old 10-28-08 | 07:29 PM
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Well, get at least the guitar set. The new guitar is friggin' awesome.
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Old 10-28-08 | 07:39 PM
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I'm actually a little concerned. I called RedOctane and they were sending me the software they said for the tuner. How exactly am I supposed to connect it to my PC?
You should be able to plug it into any of the USB ports on your computer.
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Old 10-28-08 | 07:45 PM
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Is there a USB connector on the drum set, or is there a special connector that hooks into the drumset that has a USB on the other end that's coming with the software? I didn't look closely at the drum set, but I don't think there's a USB input on there, is there?
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Old 10-28-08 | 07:52 PM
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Is there a USB connector on the drum set
There is with the PS3 version. I don't know about the 360.
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Well, get at least the guitar set. The new guitar is friggin' awesome.
Is it a much better (built) guitar than the GHIII Les Paul? I love my LP, hate the RB guitars, and want to buy one more...Should I get the GHIII LP, or get the new guitar? (Does the new one work with GH2-3, and RB1-2?)
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