Seems that the concept of reading in context eludes you.

Obviously I was talking about the plastic part that resembles a guitar. And I was speaking about a gaming concept. The concept is that you want the player to feel as if they are mastering the "instrument" (become a Guitar Hero). If they feel as if they are playing a plastic toy then something is wrong with the game design. This game is all about the "experience" of playing a guitar not actually playing one.

True about the drum kit. Yet the dexterity you learn while trying to press those buttons on the guitar closely matches the dexterity you need to play the real thing. Not exactly mind you, but when playing and actual guitar one of the first hurdles you must overcome is getting all your fingers to work together, getting your rhythm synched in both left and right hands, and learning to up/down pick.

Well I doubt that too, but what do you expect for a $189.00 price point?

If they do it right hopefully GH:WT will be for drum fans what GH is to guitar fans.

And why would it? This isn't called Drum Tour. If they pick songs that cater to drummers, won't other instrument parts suffer? Possibly like in *gasp* Rock Band?

Thats not what I meant. They should focus on the mechanics of the drums just as they have with the guitar then the experience will be equal for both drummer and guitarist.

Also did anyone notice that on the GH website they have completely shaded the neck of the GH:WT guitar now? Just a couple days ago you could make out some of the detail? Hmmm.

Like Kelkee, I have always maintained that while playing the guitar on GH/RB doesn't teach you any songs, it certainly helps you with the basic skills necessary to play the instrument.

Greatest benefits to real world guitar playing from learning to playing GH well:

1) You use your pinky... a lot.
2) Coordinating left hand with right hand

Instrument parts didn't suffer in rock band because of the drums. It's just that GH3 was so beyond bad for un-realistic over-indulgent charts, that it made rock band look too easy.

Yeah but that's due to the 'overcharting' which many have complained about and will not be happening in the next game, I would imagine. Some songs were chosen which were not as 'guitar oriented' because they are popular songs, so had to be made a bit more challenging, especially given the forgiving timing window.

In general GH3 leans toward guitar-centric material. I'm sure nobody would really argue with that.

In defense of GH3, the guitar parts had to be harder since that was the sole focus of the game and it needed to have enough 'depth' to sustain interest. Whereas in RB you have a lot of other things going on, obviously.

I'm not sure I agree with GH3 being "harder" than RB. Thrasher on RB is just as hard as anything on GH3. It might be easier to pass songs on RB but that seems due to that the SP/Overdrive phrases seem to be shorter and more plentiful.

And I think the RB version of Paranoid is harder than the GH3 song; maybe even Reptilia as well.

But that's just an assumption. Until the game actually comes out, we won't know. Neversoft may overchart every instrument.

Another thing that makes RB feel easier is that the stars are based on score, not notes hit. You can flub a lot more in RB and still get 4/5 stars than in GHIII.

GH stars are based on score also. Average multiplier of 2.8x or better is five stars. So take the total points for all notes in a song, multiply it by 2.8, and that is the score you need for five stars. I think it is a lower number of points, comparatively, for RB though.

Really? I always thought it was on number of notes hit for GH. Shows what I know. :shrug:

Oh I know, I was just trying to point out that a game that is for diverse instruments can't focus on catering alone on one or the others may suffer. I love playing drums on Rock Band.

I really hope there is a Fleetwood Mac song in GH:WT somewhere.

With Stevie on vocals, John on bass, Mick on drums, Lindsey (a REAL guitar hero) on guitar.

They would pair up nicely with the Eagles since they are in the same era.

They made a "rumored" list a few weeks ago, but the thing was almost certainly bogus. I agree, though. FM would be awesome for a band platform. "Go Your Own Way" is near the top of my most wanted list.

Ah that's too bad. Definately one of my favorite bands. Even pre-Buckingham/Nicks FM would be deserving. Oh I dunno...like say the ORIGINAL version of Black Magic Woman?

I'll add The Chain, Gold Dust Woman, Rhiannon, Landslide (imagine the charting for that).

Ah well if not on GH:WT hoping for some DLC.

Have you heard Kenny Wayne Shepherd's version of the Chain? Amazing.

No I havent heard. Will have to take a listen to it for sure!

I dug up a lot of new info from MS/Activision's E3 presentation for July. If you want to wait it out, don't click.

I think everything else in the presentation is already known.

Did you pick the artists to list in your post? If not, I find it quite odd they would focus on basically the same artists that are already in these games to highlight. What happened to the Eagles, Sublime, Nugent & Kravitz? I figure now would be the time to spotlight some big artists that haven't already been done to death.

I just assumed since it was Red Octane making the peripherals, it would be more costly.

Those are the only artists I saw from the presentation slides.

I'm not sure how different the new guitars will be, but if they are using a lot of the same parts as the current LPs, could it be that their costs are just down a lot on those?

Wow, 2 of those artists are absolutely huge additions.

Crap, if they add those artists on top of ones mentioned like Van Halen, I might have to buy this. I think, if anything, I'll reserve a copy of the full band version, then read the reviews and decide whether or not to actually pick up the reserve.