Official Wii Thread - Part VII
10-01-07, 08:19 PM
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For arrow-throwing on the Wii: The nunchuck is the bow and you hold it in front of you, and click two buttons on the remote to load the arrow, then pull it back and click another button to release the arrow. Awesome.
For arrow-throwing on the Wii: The nunchuck is the bow and you hold it in front of you, and click two buttons on the remote to load the arrow, then pull it back and click another button to release the arrow. Awesome.
10-01-07, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chess
yes...yes it is...especially for a full year.
Anyway, before the fanboys unite, I am not saying the Wii is only selling because of this or that it somehow makes it less of a system. However, to discount scarcity as a factor of demand, or to reject out of hand that Nintendo would use it to their advantage, is a bit naive.
10-01-07, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SunMonkey
With your apparent expertise, who am I to argue....
Anyway, before the fanboys unite, I am not saying the Wii is only selling because of this or that it somehow makes it less of a system. However, to discount scarcity as a factor of demand, or to reject out of hand that Nintendo would use it to their advantage, is a bit naive.
Anyway, before the fanboys unite, I am not saying the Wii is only selling because of this or that it somehow makes it less of a system. However, to discount scarcity as a factor of demand, or to reject out of hand that Nintendo would use it to their advantage, is a bit naive.
Nintendo was beaten last generation...badly...by two of the most powerful corporations in the world. They took perhaps the riskiest possible route into this generation, and their margin for error was pretty much nil if they wanted to remain viable in a cut-throat market.
The merest passing thought that they would be crazy enough to try to manipulate a market this competitive for over a year just seemed...well...silly.
I firmly believe that they are churning Wiis out as quickly as they can before demand subsides...which it very well could. In fact, given the Wii's inherent weaknesses, I'm sort of surprised demand hasn't already subsided a bit. It's remarkable really.
10-01-07, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorDeb
About a week ago, TRU had around 30, and people lining up for it. They sold out that same day.
I wonder whether the guys who open Target, Best Buy, etc even ask what people are waiting for anymore.
10-01-07, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SunMonkey
With your apparent expertise, who am I to argue....
Anyway, before the fanboys unite, I am not saying the Wii is only selling because of this or that it somehow makes it less of a system. However, to discount scarcity as a factor of demand, or to reject out of hand that Nintendo would use it to their advantage, is a bit naive.
Anyway, before the fanboys unite, I am not saying the Wii is only selling because of this or that it somehow makes it less of a system. However, to discount scarcity as a factor of demand, or to reject out of hand that Nintendo would use it to their advantage, is a bit naive.
Depending upon which website you read, Nintendo has sold more Wiis in 9 months than Microsoft sold 360s in 17 months.
Nintendo is pumping out Wiis as fast as they can. Please explain how Nintendo is using the fact that Wiis are selling out as fast as they hit the shelves. What advantage is Nintendo receiving?
Are you actually suggesting that there are people out there who have no desire to buy a Wii but just happen to to be in the store for the few hours where there is one on the shelf, see it, and think "oh, I don't want one, but I better get one because they are so scarce."??? Is that the "advantage" you are referring to?
10-01-07, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chess
I just had lunch with a friend today that plans to get in an early morning line in the next few weeks so he doesn't get scalped in November.
I wonder whether the guys who open Target, Best Buy, etc even ask what people are waiting for anymore.
I wonder whether the guys who open Target, Best Buy, etc even ask what people are waiting for anymore.
10-01-07, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chess
Sorry to be flippant and fanboyish...I was just amused by your comment for some reason. Still, I should have elaborated.
Nintendo was beaten last generation...badly...by two of the most powerful corporations in the world. They took perhaps the riskiest possible route into this generation, and their margin for error was pretty much nil if they wanted to remain viable in a cut-throat market.
The merest passing thought that they would be crazy enough to try to manipulate a market this competitive for over a year just seemed...well...silly.
I firmly believe that they are churning Wiis out as quickly as they can before demand subsides...which it very well could. In fact, given the Wii's inherent weaknesses, I'm sort of surprised demand hasn't already subsided a bit. It's remarkable really.
Nintendo was beaten last generation...badly...by two of the most powerful corporations in the world. They took perhaps the riskiest possible route into this generation, and their margin for error was pretty much nil if they wanted to remain viable in a cut-throat market.
The merest passing thought that they would be crazy enough to try to manipulate a market this competitive for over a year just seemed...well...silly.
I firmly believe that they are churning Wiis out as quickly as they can before demand subsides...which it very well could. In fact, given the Wii's inherent weaknesses, I'm sort of surprised demand hasn't already subsided a bit. It's remarkable really.
10-01-07, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sracer
Scarcity? Nintendo is consistently pumping out more Wiis each month than MS is producing 360s and Sony producing PS3s... and if I recall correctly, there was a month or so where the number of Wiis sold was equal to the number of 360s and PS3s combined.
Depending upon which website you read, Nintendo has sold more Wiis in 9 months than Microsoft sold 360s in 17 months.
Nintendo is pumping out Wiis as fast as they can. Please explain how Nintendo is using the fact that Wiis are selling out as fast as they hit the shelves. What advantage is Nintendo receiving?
Are you actually suggesting that there are people out there who have no desire to buy a Wii but just happen to to be in the store for the few hours where there is one on the shelf, see it, and think "oh, I don't want one, but I better get one because they are so scarce."??? Is that the "advantage" you are referring to?
Depending upon which website you read, Nintendo has sold more Wiis in 9 months than Microsoft sold 360s in 17 months.
Nintendo is pumping out Wiis as fast as they can. Please explain how Nintendo is using the fact that Wiis are selling out as fast as they hit the shelves. What advantage is Nintendo receiving?
Are you actually suggesting that there are people out there who have no desire to buy a Wii but just happen to to be in the store for the few hours where there is one on the shelf, see it, and think "oh, I don't want one, but I better get one because they are so scarce."??? Is that the "advantage" you are referring to?
I'm just debating the notion that Nintendo is manipulating supply to drive scarcity. All evidence to the contrary...including the numbers you rightly cite.
10-02-07, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SunMonkey
If something is hard to get, people want it. It doesn't seem at all far fetched to think that Nintendo is maintaining a false demand by keeping the system scarce.
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10-02-07, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chess
yes...yes it is...especially for a full year.
There's something more to this than meets the eye.
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10-02-07, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sracer
Scarcity? Nintendo is consistently pumping out more Wiis each month than MS is producing 360s and Sony producing PS3s... and if I recall correctly, there was a month or so where the number of Wiis sold was equal to the number of 360s and PS3s combined.
Depending upon which website you read, Nintendo has sold more Wiis in 9 months than Microsoft sold 360s in 17 months.
Nintendo is pumping out Wiis as fast as they can. Please explain how Nintendo is using the fact that Wiis are selling out as fast as they hit the shelves. What advantage is Nintendo receiving?
Are you actually suggesting that there are people out there who have no desire to buy a Wii but just happen to to be in the store for the few hours where there is one on the shelf, see it, and think "oh, I don't want one, but I better get one because they are so scarce."??? Is that the "advantage" you are referring to?
Depending upon which website you read, Nintendo has sold more Wiis in 9 months than Microsoft sold 360s in 17 months.
Nintendo is pumping out Wiis as fast as they can. Please explain how Nintendo is using the fact that Wiis are selling out as fast as they hit the shelves. What advantage is Nintendo receiving?
Are you actually suggesting that there are people out there who have no desire to buy a Wii but just happen to to be in the store for the few hours where there is one on the shelf, see it, and think "oh, I don't want one, but I better get one because they are so scarce."??? Is that the "advantage" you are referring to?
If Nintendo were pumping out Wii's as fast as they could (be willing), there wouldn't be a lack of supply almost 1 year in.
And you should know human nature by now, wanting something that they cannot have? It all started with Adam & Eve!
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10-02-07, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
But, why didn't they have 500 units?
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Nintendo has sold 11 million Wiis worldwide (right?), and let's say, for the sake of argument, the following: that they started manufacturing Wiis 500 days ago, that the rate of production has been constant, and that all the factories making Wiis are in operation 24/7.
That'd equate to about fifteen Wiis every minute, or a Wii every four seconds.
Maybe I am just totally clueless about the manufacturing industry, but that sounds to me like Wiis are being churned out at a pretty fast rate, especially given the overly generous assumptions.
And I don't see why Nintendo would spend the resources to create new factories, when demand for Wiis will surely relax, and they'd only be forced to close the new factories in a few months.
10-02-07, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by hvlien
Go here and request up to 4 silicon sleevs for your Wiimotes. You will need to enter your serial number.
Yup... woke up to the blue va-jay-jay this morning and found the same message.
Just waiting for someone to start the Wiimote Condom thread. "Nintendo asks that you protect yourself from accidental slippage of the Wiimote when in vigorous use."
10-02-07, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by utopianz14
And I don't see why Nintendo would spend the resources to create new factories, when demand for Wiis will surely relax, and they'd only be forced to close the new factories in a few months.
I could buy the conspiracy theory last Christmas, but almost a year in? A year in when Nintendo is selling almost a half million Wii's during the normally dead months of summer? They are churning out and selling two to three times the competition and are still manipulating? I doubt it.
They have sold 11 million in 10 months, or 1.1 million a month which is an insane number, especially since Nintendo goes by actual sales, not shipped like the other two companies. The other two companies by comparison do about 200,000 a month.
10-02-07, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Wii had a cameo on Weeds last night. 
10-02-07, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hvlien
Go here and request up to 4 silicon sleevs for your Wiimotes. You will need to enter your serial number.
10-02-07, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Goldberg74
Yup... woke up to the blue va-jay-jay this morning and found the same message.
Just waiting for someone to start the Wiimote Condom thread. "Nintendo asks that you protect yourself from accidental slippage of the Wiimote when in vigorous use."
10-02-07, 11:35 AM
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I'm not sure if my order worked or not. It added them to my cart, I entered my info, clicked "Submit Order" and then just received a blank screen. I tried again and saw the same blank screen. Since I never got an order number, I can't verify if it worked or not. I'll just have to wait and see if I get anything (or possibly 2-3 times as many as I need, if each attempt is processed).
It's nice that they're doing this, though. I only have one sleeve at the moment. Hopefully these will make battery replacement easier than the one I have now.
It's nice that they're doing this, though. I only have one sleeve at the moment. Hopefully these will make battery replacement easier than the one I have now.
10-02-07, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Exactly. They could easily spend a few million on a new factory and labor to get a new plant up and running just to meet demand, but why? They make money on every wii sold, spending all that dough would negate that profit.
I could buy the conspiracy theory last Christmas, but almost a year in? A year in when Nintendo is selling almost a half million Wii's during the normally dead months of summer? They are churning out and selling two to three times the competition and are still manipulating? I doubt it.
They have sold 11 million in 10 months, or 1.1 million a month which is an insane number, especially since Nintendo goes by actual sales, not shipped like the other two companies. The other two companies by comparison do about 200,000 a month.
I could buy the conspiracy theory last Christmas, but almost a year in? A year in when Nintendo is selling almost a half million Wii's during the normally dead months of summer? They are churning out and selling two to three times the competition and are still manipulating? I doubt it.
They have sold 11 million in 10 months, or 1.1 million a month which is an insane number, especially since Nintendo goes by actual sales, not shipped like the other two companies. The other two companies by comparison do about 200,000 a month.
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