None, and its a scam by the gaming industry. They know people will rush out and buy a new game ( whatever its bad or crap ) , so they put the price up to 60 and my guess 70 dollars in the future, and make profit from it. Then a few weeks or months later, that same game which someone bought for 60 dollars will be traded in, a waste of money right there.

LIke PS3, it came out, with a 600 dollar price tag knowing damn well it didnt really have any good decent games, no online play, no nothing , just a lame ass box with lame ass games, and guess what?

People still went out and bought it, some people might of spent thier rent money on that sh**, who knows.

Either way, new games should cost 39.99. Good good games should cost 45.99. There is only a few games out there that is really worth 45 or 50 dollars, so you must be insane if you think i will spend 60 dollars on a game.

Like allpro2k8. Its the best football game on the market in my eyes ( i'm a hardcore sega/vc fan ) but is it worth 60 dollars? Hell no. Maybe 30, but not 60. The bottom line, 60 dollars for a video game is wrong.

And btw, who the hell needs blue-ray when you can download BSplayer and put the video in movie mode and you set for life. And yes i'm serious about this.

as a wee lad, i saved up my own money to buy Pac Man for Atari 2600 at Sears

it was like... $63 and change

i hated it then and i hate it now... especially now that i really know the value of a dollar. there's not a rental service out there that's really top notch, but people still use them a lot b/c prices are insane.

a $50 price point for one game is crazy enough

$60 is insane

but at least some 'next gen' games have already started dropping to even 14.99

i realize people will say 'dl content' justifies that price and i agree, to an extent, when it really happens which is rare

Yea i seen a couple of those 360 games for 14.99, good deal right there. I just think new games should cost 39.99 , and the great ones should cost 45 dollars even. so 44.99.

peace

I played guitar hero I/II for at least 500 hours total. Knowing what I know now they could have charged $200 each and released it on its own system and I still would have bought it. I've also logged enough hours into unreal 2k3/2k4s invasion mode to buy a new computer setup on top of the $20 I spent on the game.

There are very few products which react quicker than videogames to supply and demand. Whatever a game "should" be, according to the masses, is what it will soon actually be... and APF 2k8 is about to become the latest example of this.

Also, if there actually was a continuing crush of people spending their rent money on PS3, they wouldn't have needed a price drop already. So I'm not sure how that's a good choice to support your argument, either.

I'm sure if games were 39.99, there would be people that would say that's a ripoff and that games should be 19.99. Games should be whatever price someone is willing to pay. If people aren't willing to pay 60 bucks, then they won't sell and prices will be lowered, budgets will be cut, etc.

If you're willing to wait it out, you can probably stay a generation behind and pick up great games for 10 to 20 bucks. Sure, you'd miss out on the occasional rare game, but you'd be happy because new games obviously aren't worth it to you.

This is why pretty much all the consoles have some kind of greatest hits line that's around the pricepoint you suggest. So stop worrying about what people are paying and just wait it out.

Not even going to comment on the BluRay part.

I agree for the most part if you are talking about a single player game. But then there are games like Halo 3, where i'll play onine for years, and I'll drop $60 on it in a heart beat. It's actually a great value for the amount of entertainment you get out of it.

The only single player games that I will pay full price for is stuff like Metroid, Zelda, and Resident Evil 4/5.

Can you elaborate on this please??

Buy used.

I can understand a "new" game but 8 months or longer no way. Look at games like Rainbow Six:Vegas and Gears of War which came out last November still at $60. Even worse is The Elder Scrolls IV:Oblivion that came out March of 06 still at $60. I understand these are great games but not exactly new. However there are several popular titles in that 6-12 month range that has fallen.

I think one thing to keep in mind is the sheer amount of time, resources and people that it takes now days to make a game. I looked in the back of my "Unreal Tournament" book, the pc version fom 99', and it has about (64) people involved in the game. It's about double that today. While back then it was mainly all pc gaming today you have to deal with three or four cross-platforms which each it's on set of challenges.

One area I do wish either MS , the reatilers or game DEVs would try is coming out with some sort of "game packs" for some price breaks. There was a golden opportunity for such a pack with Forza 2 and Dirt. Two solid fun racing games but at $60 a pop most can only get one. If someone in marketing would wake up you could have have a racing pack with both games and steering wheel say for $170 or so. You've got say Medal of Honor:Airborne and Brothers In Arms coming up, both good looking games but again you're going to have to choose one. Why not a WWII Game Pack for say $100 or whatever. The sports games would be even better to do a game pack. It would be a win-win for everyone.


Kenny J - Buzz Starhopper

Obviously it's all supply and demand...and while a lot of people probably think $60 is a ripoff, a lot of them still go buy it at that price so as not to feel "left out."

I don't play games online at all (though I'm planning on starting soon, with Halo and Madden and Rock Band), so what I and some of my friends with 360s do is get a game, split the cost 2 or 3 ways, and take turns (yes, just like little kids taking turns with a toy ). If we feel like getting a new game, it's ~$20 out of pocket, and generally one only has to wait 2-3 weeks for your "turn". Obviously doesn't work well with online gaming, but it's been a cheap/enjoyable way of doing it for us.

I guess I stand out as the oddball on this. Of course I want games to be cheaper (heck I want everything to cost less). But I really don't think that $60 is all that outrageous for games today.

Then again, I'm not very good at video games. It takes me months to complete a game (and even then, I don't get all of the achievements) Each game purchase is a deliberate decision (except for when BestBuy had their inventory clearance sale last year).

I don't have a lot of time to devote to gaming, that just compounds the lameness factor. But I do feel like I got my money's worth out of PGR3 ($60), Amped3($50), and especially Dead Rising ($60).

I'm still working on Viva Pinata($50), and Test Drive:Unlimited ($40). (There's about another 6 titles purchased used/clearance that I've basically only booted up to see what they look like)

If I could play a game fully in the 8-20 hours that some folks here do, I probably would feel differently.

Consider the price we pay for movies, 7 to 10 dollars for 2 hours of entertainment. Concerts are 30 to 100 dollars for 2 to 3 hours of entertainment. Considering how many hours of gaming entertainment you get from a $60 game, I'd say it's a good deal. No one is forcing you to buy, ever heard of Gamefly. Try renting or buying the games used.

I forget how much I paid for Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time back in the day. On the N64, I'm sure it was at least $60. Was it worth it? Yes...hell yes...

Actually i do buy used games, about 90% of the time. The highest i will ever go to spend on a game is 40 dollars. I never spent 50 or 60 dollars on a game, and never will. I will spend 45 dollars a game, but it have to be a good one. Like GTA games, or NFL2K games.

DVD/HDTV, Blue Ray its all the same to me. I dont see any difference. But i have a dvd player which is fine, but i dont care about HDTV or blue ray because i use the media player BSPLAYE and if you set it in Movie mode, it looks just like the movie theater, which is a million times better then HDTV or a Blueray picture.

On a last note: I have a 13INCH tv which i use for gaming and you know what, it looks just as good like anything else. No joke either

I'm not the type of person to rush out and buy the lastest stuff, thats all. I remember when people was fighting over the PS3, acting all crazy trying to get the system, and i'm saying to myself " Why the rush, why act crazy , the system is not going nowhere, all you have to do is wait lol ".

Please post that in the HD threads

And heres some info from wiki:

BS.Player made by the Slovenian company Webteh is a media player for Windows 2000 and XP that plays back many kinds of multimedia files (including AVI, MPEG, Ogg, Matroska, ASF, QuickTime, MP4, WAV...) and specializes in video and audio playback.

So its a PC player with codecs, like divx player. And its as good as the theater? Mmmmhmmmm.

Anyway. Games were $50 for 25 years, id say were OK inflation wise unlike other products.

Well, that's fine for you, but I hope you can understand that for many of us, it's not "all the same" and we actually CAN tell a difference.

I don't know where to start. I'm glad you enjoy your setup. You should trying going to movie theaters that have screens bigger than 13 inches. It's fun.

A 13" TV?? Guy, I'm 35 and I can't even take using a 15" LCD. I like reading your opinion about the increase price of games, but you're got to know that inflation is always with us.

P.S.

13" TV where did you find that thing???

I have a 13" TV in my bathroom.

(I really don't)

Simple solution: Don't pay $60. If you shift your schedule so that you are buying games six to twelve months after release, then you can get things for 1/3 to 1/2 of that price, and often less. Also try buying games used and trading for them here, on TGN, GTZ. And of course, start going to CAG.

Sorry man, you just lost all credibility with statements like those. To each is own I guess.

If only games could give me the same joy concerts do.

I used to have a 13" TV in college. We actually played 4-player Goldeneye on it.

I rarely spend $60 on a game, in fact, the Bioshock LE may be the first game in years I have paid $60 for. If you are patient enough you can easily pay much less. Last generation it was around $15 per game for me, and often much cheaper. This generation I have pushed that up to about $25 per game, sometimes $30, just waiting for price drops/sales.

I think there are plenty games worth $60, but there are so many games, I want to get more for my money. The hours spent with some games make them a great value, I got 100's of hours out of Warcraft III years ago, and spent $40 on it. I would have easily paid $60 for all those multiplayer hours.