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Larry C. 11-12-08 12:39 PM

Thanks for the info fellas.

TheBigDave 11-12-08 01:10 PM

Played through the demo twice last night. I'm not interested in co-op, so I haven't been looking forward to this game too much. But the single player was really fun.

My biggest concern was the NPC AI. I recently played Battlefield: Bad Company which also has you on a 4-man team. The AI on that game was lousy. You're an enemy magnet. The partners are worthless. They don't kill anything. They can't drive. And even though one is a demolitions expert, none of them know how to blow anything up. (But it was still a fun game)

The AI in this game was excellent. Your partners can clear a room, save you from a boss, heal you when you're dying and point out needed supplies. So even on the single player mode, you still feel like a 4-player team.

It's very arcadey. It seems like you just plow through tons of zombies. Fun to pick up for a quick game. But I'm not sure how well that'll hold up over 20 missions.

The variety makes replay fun. The first time I took it slow. Poked around every corner with my flashlight. Tried to take out every zombie I saw. The second time was run and gun. A very different game. Hordes came from different places and some new bosses.

But I wish there was more variety. The horde zombies are all in drab gray clothes with black hair. I swear I killed the same zombie chick at least 50 times.

Baron Of Hell 11-12-08 01:17 PM

I think they only have about 8 models that are used over and over again.

kaze0 11-13-08 08:29 AM

I went through the levels a few itmes before ever seeing a witch.

Groucho 11-13-08 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 9068057)
But I wish there was more variety. The horde zombies are all in drab gray clothes with black hair. I swear I killed the same zombie chick at least 50 times.

I'm hoping that they limited the models in the demo, and that there's more in the full game. But I'm not holding my breath.

Larry C. 11-13-08 08:39 AM

Yeah played the demo last night and had a blast. I'm a co-op whore so I knew I would like this. At first I too was peaking around every corner then it was all balls to the walls.

CKMorpheus 11-13-08 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell (Post 9068074)
I think they only have about 8 models that are used over and over again.

I don't know how many models there are, but there are a LOT more than 8 skins of Zombies. Here are all the models and skins from the demo:

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Groucho 11-13-08 08:45 AM

That's cool, but let's get real: a lot of those look indistinguishable in the dark environments.

lordzeppelin 11-13-08 08:51 AM

Eh, they're zombies. How many of the Locust look the same in Gears? I could care less...I just want to shoot zombies.

I cannot wait for this game, even though I'm very much into gears and should finish it this weekend. Hell, I still need to finish dead rising.

Ghym 11-13-08 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by lordzeppelin (Post 9069610)
Eh, they're zombies. How many of the Locust look the same in Gears? I could care less...I just want to shoot zombies.

I agree. I really don't care how many zombie models there are. They could use one model for all I care. It's dark, and I'm too busy blasting the crap out of them to notice what they look like most of the time.

NotThatGuy 11-13-08 11:33 AM

Hmm....shall I add another game to my collection....the same collection I swore I wouldn't own more than a few games....:lol:

Kicker_of_Elves 11-13-08 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by kaze0 (Post 9067839)
Didn't GOW2 release on a Friday. Howd you get it Saturday?


They shipped it on Wednesday, so i got it a day after release day.

superfro 11-13-08 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 9068057)
The AI in this game was excellent. Your partners can clear a room, save you from a boss, heal you when you're dying and point out needed supplies. So even on the single player mode, you still feel like a 4-player team.

Seconded! I played with a friend and the other two characters were still a huge help. Awesome indeed.

I also loved the variety by mixing up zombie/weapon locations. You never know what to expect. We all died and had to redo a section and dropped into an area that was crawling with zombies the first time around. We both just looked around and were like "Where the hell is everybody?" Within like 5 seconds an entire stream of them comes tearing into the room. It was awesome!

Giantrobo 11-13-08 01:46 PM

It seems the "buzz" is getting louder with this game. The ads are all over the place and I saw a commercial for it this morning. I read an article about it months ago but i forgot about it.

I have a hard time finding co-op partners so that's not a major draw for me. However, the reports of Good AI in the single player has me very interested. I guess I'm off to DL the demo.

Larry C. 11-13-08 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 9070330)
It seems the "buzz" is getting louder with this game. The ads are all over the place and I saw a commercial for it this morning. I read an article about it months ago but i forgot about it.

I have a hard time finding co-op partners so that's not a major draw for me. However, the reports of Good AI in the single player has me very interested. I guess I'm of to DL the demo.

Robo I'll be your co-op partner....:bow::wave:

lopper 11-13-08 02:19 PM

I didn't love the demo. Barely liked it, in fact.

Now that my expectations have been brought down to a more realistic level, I'll give the demo another whirl this afternoon.

vwbeetlvr 11-13-08 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 9070330)
It seems the "buzz" is getting louder with this game. The ads are all over the place and I saw a commercial for it this morning. I read an article about it months ago but i forgot about it.

There are billboards for this on major NYC highways (I've seen at least 2 in the past 2 weeks). That is some major marketing. And I don't even think they mention it's a video game!!1 It looks like a movie billboard.

Groucho 11-13-08 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by vwbeetlvr (Post 9070477)
There are billboards for this on major NYC highways (I've seen at least 2 in the past 2 weeks). That is some major marketing. And I don't even think they mention it's a video game!!1 It looks like a movie billboard.

That actually doesn't surprise me. If you play the demo, they are very much going with the "grindhouse movie" feel. At the beginning of the round, it even shows a "poster" with your gamertag as the "star".

TheBigDave 11-13-08 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 9070486)
That actually doesn't surprise me. If you play the demo, they are very much going with the "grindhouse movie" feel. At the beginning of the round, it even shows a "poster" with your gamertag as the "star".

If you check the options screen, there's a slider for the amount of film grain.

darkside 11-13-08 09:17 PM

I loved this demo. This one is now on my radar. A lot of fun to play co-op.

PopcornTreeCt 11-13-08 10:11 PM

I loved the demo too. The AI is pretty good but I wish I could tell them to go ahead of me like in Rainbow Six. I don't like being the scout.

actyper 11-14-08 12:48 PM

^ pussy. :)

House 11-14-08 01:26 PM

Is this game worth buying if you don't have live?

Giantrobo 11-14-08 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Larry C. (Post 9070375)
Robo I'll be your co-op partner....:bow::wave:

Cool :lol::up:

Larry C. 11-14-08 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 9072766)
Cool :lol::up:

Played the demo online last night with 3 buddies. I don't know what was better killing zombies, killing buddies, or getting pulled in by a zombie tongue...


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