XBox 360 65nm? When?
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XBox 360 65nm? When?
I can't seem to find any confirmation on a release date. Is Microsoft going to release this, or are they sticking with the current design. I will be buying an XBox for Halo 3. If the 65nm release is in the ballpark of Halo 3 I'll wait for it.
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They are planning it but have not announced a date for it.
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Originally Posted by parrotheads4
I can't seem to find any confirmation on a release date.
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Originally Posted by Demontooth
You're really missing a lot of good gaming worrying about this rumored chip.
I got no problems waiting.
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Originally Posted by MWB
So the general thought is that they'll just quietly slip in the new chipsets into the current process, real subtle-like?
No chance of a case redesign then, I guess?
No chance of a case redesign then, I guess?
I'm in the camp of "you're wasting your time waiting for a rumored chip", when you could get in a few great months of gaming instead.
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Are the new chips "rumored" the same way the Zephyr was "rumored" earlier in the year?
I mean, from everything I've read, it's gonna happen--it's just a matter of "when," as opposed to "if."
I mean, from everything I've read, it's gonna happen--it's just a matter of "when," as opposed to "if."
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Originally Posted by MWB
So the general thought is that they'll just quietly slip in the new chipsets into the current process, real subtle-like?
Take this for what it is worth
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Originally Posted by MWB
So the general thought is that they'll just quietly slip in the new chipsets into the current process, real subtle-like?
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Originally Posted by PrivatePixel
More than likely, the CPU based on a smaller fab will be incorporated into regular production units, and unless they revise the SKU, production code and/or rear panel to reflect this, I don't think there's any way of knowing what a customer receives without opening the box or cracking open the case. After all, if there was some way to distinguish the ones out now compared with the 65nm fab units, those based on the original fab will probably need to be discounted as a means of clearing older stock, which isn't a sales approach I see Microsoft adopting.
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Of course they'll arrive quietly. The only incentive for Microsoft to do this is cost-saving on their end which they won't likely pass on unless Sony forces them to. Any benefit to the consumer is a side-effect.
They certainly won't claim it'll help with the rampant RROD issues because those don't exist and any failures are well within acceptable tolerances, right?
They certainly won't claim it'll help with the rampant RROD issues because those don't exist and any failures are well within acceptable tolerances, right?
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Everyone here knows what will happen. Someone will open theirs up, see that it has it, they will take note of the serial number, or, whatever, and then others will do so as well. Pretty soon we will have a confirmed range and the savvier people will be able to pick it out on the shelf without hassle. If this actually helps the life of their console I'll consider getting one. Until they get better or start handing out free extended warranties I won't bother.
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Originally Posted by pinata242
Of course they'll arrive quietly. The only incentive for Microsoft to do this is cost-saving on their end which they won't likely pass on unless Sony forces them to. Any benefit to the consumer is a side-effect.
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
If Microsoft was smart, they'd drop the price with the introduction of this new chip to keep the pressure on the PS3.
They need to keep making whatever they can per console to offset the initial losses and the cost of repairs. Even with the extended warranty money they pull in, I just can't believe they aren't losing money on each repair.
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if you jump on a 360 now....just make sure you pick one up w/ a 2 year warranty (best buy, etc), and if anything ever goes wrong w/ the unit, swap it out...
if it dies in 6 months, maybe by then the new units will have this newer chipset....?
but with a good extended warranty, you're covered.
if it dies in 6 months, maybe by then the new units will have this newer chipset....?
but with a good extended warranty, you're covered.
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The smaller die chips will come, no doubt. It's in MS's interest to do so (it will save them money, as more CPUs can be made per wafer). It's also in MS's interest to make no noise about it. They want the stock of 90nm CPUs to continue to sell. Until they have gotten rid of all 90nm stock, I doubt they say one word about it.
I doubt the smaller CPUs will really solve any problem for us consumers, however. From what I understand, an overheating CPU is less of an issue with today's 360s (versus the other rampant problems).
I doubt the smaller CPUs will really solve any problem for us consumers, however. From what I understand, an overheating CPU is less of an issue with today's 360s (versus the other rampant problems).
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Originally Posted by mbs
The smaller die chips will come, no doubt. It's in MS's interest to do so (it will save them money, as more CPUs can be made per wafer). It's also in MS's interest to make no noise about it. They want the stock of 90nm CPUs to continue to sell. Until they have gotten rid of all 90nm stock, I doubt they say one word about it.
I doubt the smaller CPUs will really solve any problem for us consumers, however. From what I understand, an overheating CPU is less of an issue with today's 360s (versus the other rampant problems).
I doubt the smaller CPUs will really solve any problem for us consumers, however. From what I understand, an overheating CPU is less of an issue with today's 360s (versus the other rampant problems).
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Originally Posted by parrotheads4
If this is the case (65nm not solving any problems) then maybe I'll skip the 360. A failure rate of 33% is unacceptable.
Whatever you decide to do, be sure to purchase the extended warranty. You can consider it as part of the cost when factoring whether to get a 360. It would be incredibly foolish to not buy the warranty, new CPUs or not. That said, it is still painful to have to send in my beloved 360 when it craps out (something which should not be nearly as necessary as it is).
One benefit of the smaller CPUs might be fan noise. Less heat should be quieter units. It won't sound like a train is in the room when watching HD-DVDs.